Adam Lambert is just terrible, period

[b]missreclusive said:
[i]It's what I think of his choice of frontman! I doubt he would take it personal. And if so, I can not help it, I do not care for AL. As far as his touchy feely thing, it appears condescending to me and ick. His voice and style, performance are annoying to me. I'm sure the concerts were sensational, youtube shows that, however, I wouldn't pay to see AL no matter who he's fronting. Think of an entertainer/musician that you dislike hearing/seeing. Now have people trying to tell you he/she is GREAT. Does it force you to enjoy? It's a stupid argument at best. It saddens me to see the choices they've made in a frontman. It changes the sound of the songs I love. QE did it with integrity and it sounded absolutely wonderful. I don't think anyone who loves the legacy sound would argue with the way QE sounds and especially live. AL's voice on the other hand will sound shrill live or recorded. Freddies voice when he was younger was very different however, I watch him perform and his flamboyant way isn't annoying, Freddie comes off as genuine. I really hate comparing the two because there isn't a comparison except they have performed the same songs and a Queen fan can not help but remember Freddie. Once again, my opinion, Bri and Rog should make new music, even though they have and it just isn't going to be Queen again.

[/i][/b]I think Brian would take it personal, especially if he were to see himself referred to as a doddering old fool, or some of the other endearing terms I've seen used here. I really do not care if you like Adam, it is the hipocracy of those who accuse Adam of being condescending and disrespectful, while they are calling Brian and Roger names here that gets me. Because I followed Adam in the early days on Idol and just after I know a little more about him I fail to see any lack of respect on his part. I have not followed him the last couple of years, so maybe something in his character has changed and I am wrong. Maybe what I see as disrespect for Brian and Roger from Queen fans here is really just frustration.

Of course Freddie was genuine - he was the original and not trying to fill in for the missing original! He wrote many of the songs and nurtured them and knew them intimately.

Maybe it IS time Queen was laid to rest. Like Camelot it was a bit of magic that happened once upon a time and cannot be recreated. Then I'm sure you would all be happy, relieved, or whatever...........

All I have to say is that I'm sorry I obviously offended you. We all have our opinions. I never called Bri or Rog doddering old fools, nor would I. But as a fan I don't have to applaude every choice they make while carrying on with the music, nor do I have to buy it. I did see AL on idol and didn't enjoy him. I don't know him personally! I only have access to whats out there and I have my opinion from what I see. Oh sure, he can sing, but he isn't special nor set apart from the others who can sing and aren't entertaining to me.

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[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] SBN, it was never mentioned that Freddie,was gay because he was in the closet and it would be merely speculation. . Am I not right? Adam just came right out and stated it. and here we are in 2012 for Christ's sake and it comes up in EVERY interview.

And a LOT of folks, including the judges on AI, think Adam's forte is rock.[/QUOTE]
Yes you are right.  But if you were alive and a Queen fan in the 70s, you'd know that Freddie's sexuality, while never officially out of the closet, was leaning to the gayer side of life.  And live too.  Robert Plant was the prototypical rock god, long hair, jeans that were sprayed on, and his shirt bursting open to reveal a forest of chest hair.  Freddie was in a harlequin leotard, toasting with champagne in the feyest of voices, but he would kick anyone's ass as a ROCK performer.  He had it.  IMHO, AL is better suited for records and small venues in the pop world.  AFWIW, we've seen what the careers are for a lot of AI alumni.  Once they lose the weekly cocoon of guaranteed ratings, they disappear for the most part.  The judges are salesmen, not purveyors of taste.

I listened to him do Another One Bites the Crust...er..em..Dust! It sounded like absolute canine defecation! Then I listened to him do BoRhap. While Freddie absolutely blows him out of the water, he seemed to hit the notes okay. When Freddie sang some of the vocals, I just lost it and started crying :) I'm not going to question Bri and Roger's judgement on this one, though. I'm sure they have something up their sleeves! They are, remember, 1/2 of "the greatest band in all the land!"

Tarabostes
Bravo...KickAss, you have just broken the record of grossness and idiocy!!! Bravo!

Adam was great.
Paul Rodgers is aids.

I thought that considering all of the various viewpoints aired here you all might enjoy this comment I came across at another website: http://www.sheilaomalley.com/?p=33248

Dg says: February 12, 2011 at 9:07 pm: [i]Somewhere in my rocknroll youth Sheila, not sure what year or which tour but Queen came in to play MSG and when they played the fat bottomed girl song a bunch girls came out and rode around the stage on bikes and Freddie slapped their asses as they rode by him….so politically incorrect but so funny…ever notice not many try to cover a Queen song? I think because they and mostly Freddie played everything to the absolute hilt…no sense trying to out Freddie Freddie.

[/i]This page also has a video of Freddie and Montserrat performing Barcelona with all the trimmings, followed by one of the most beautiful attempts at describing Freddie onstage that I have ever read:

[i]Freddie Mercury’s talent has always seemed a little bit otherworldly to me. Touched by the gods. Divine. In the truest sense of the word. Watch how he moves his body. His open-legged stance at the very beginning, like he’s planting his feet on the boards, getting ready to go where the performance will take him. He’s a showman, an entertainer, a born performer, from every hair on his head to the tips of every finger. Every gesture, every breath, every look is all pouring into the intention of this song. And that flow doesn’t stop when he’s not the one singing. Watch his body during her sections. He is tossing massive support under her, throwing his energy at her, filling up the stage at the same time that he is sharing the stage with her. Kathy Bates came and spoke at my school once, and she said, “Look, if you have a gift for something, you just have to give it away. All day, every day, just give it away.”That’s what Freddie Mercury does, instinctively, habitually, in every moment, always. There is not one tiny bit of him that is not fully present. And that, to me, is Divine.[/i]

I've also posted this at the Barcelona 2012 thread, so sorry for the repeat if you've been there.

[QUOTE] [b]jazzy mercurois wrote:[/b]
Paul Rodgers is aids.[/QUOTE]

Dude. Not cool.

This song is incredibly hard to sing TBF. Freddie was an absolute musical genius and it will be impossible to replicate. Lambert is a very talented individual, I'm sure given enough practice, he'd be able to hit most notes in Queen songs, I just don't think his voice suits as a Freddie Mercury replacement.

The only guy I would have swallowed is George Michael. Because that's the only performer that gave me a 100% legit performance of a Queen song, when he performed Somebody to Love. Though even with George Michael, I'd have a hard time envisioning him singing The Show Must Go On or many of Queen's rock hits.

IVQ,
George Michael is the only guy you would have swallowed? Bwahahaha!

Yeah, that's pretty weak IVQ.  Adam would have swallowed George, his band and crew then the entire male audience.  Try a little harder please.

I find him to be consistantly hilarious, so on balance because he makes me laugh , i feel no need to protest, as his facial expressions and the way he sings is entertaining because it is so camp and over the top it is actually funny. So for me that is the redeeming factor of it all.

Al has enabled Queen to tour and let people hear Queen perform live, so it is a good thing no matter what.
He is no closer to Freddie than Roger's was further, no one can be.
( Unless they are trained actors who can study everything he did and thought, so to speak, film short bits of film with cuts, and masterfully re-create him that way.)

Al's camp is his trademark, he sings melodrama's, the vividness of his facial expressions would be too big for an arena audience without super screens, ten miles from the stage.

He is the personification of ultra campness, something Freddie NEVER EVER brought into his vocal perfomance and movement in his stage performances, and which was only hinted at for a mere second while he toasted the audience with a faux champagne glass made out of plastic.

The mystery of Freddie Mercury's stage performance shall forever remain such, as nobody even after watching it understands it, but rather they experience it, then forget how it was done.
ONE THING IT WAS NOT, AS A CLUE,
IT WAS NOT CAMP.
Camp is a display of defensive weakness that is faux femininity that is openly seen to be false, and it is faux offensive in it's motivation. That is why it is funny to people.
There was nothing false or weak about what Freddie mercury displayed on stage, except for some plastic breasts, but there you see the diacotomy. and he knew the difference and used it well, and with great power and heart, unmatched by any other "pretenders".

Thank God this is not the Freddie Mercury biopic, it was only a short tour, and i hope people understand that statement.

I think the difference between Adam and Freddie is (apparent) authenticity.

I'm a longtime Star Trek fan. I also loved the TV show Friday Night Lights. The acting on those shows are dramatically different but works in the context of each show. Star Trek is very stylized, almost like watching a theatrical play. FNL is very naturalistic, like watching a documentary.

When I was younger, I used to love going to scifi cons in a Star Trek uniform costume because it was just so cool hanging out with similarly costumed friends, like being part of the Enterprise crew if only for a weekend. There were other fans for whom the fun part of wearing costumes was the attention--getting their pictures taken, getting interviews in newspapers or on TV.

When Freddie dressed like a harlequin and pranced around in ballet flats, I get the sense he just thought it was fun and cool to do so. When Adam slinks around in a furry Elmo jacket, I get the sense that he's thinking, what can I do to surprise/shock people and get them taking about me for days?

Freddie's flamboyance comes across as just a natural extension of his personality--it has a "dance like no one is watching" quality. While Adam's flamboyance is also an expression of his personality, it comes across as very stylized, being done with purpose to achieve a reaction from the audience. I think that's why people can have no problem with Freddie's flamboyance, yet hate Adam's flamboyance.

Very well said.