Adam Lambert is just terrible, period

GratefulFan wrote: Glamberts are blind to it, but the music itself is not that strong. Compare NCOE to the current number one, also by an Idol alum, 'Call Me Maybe'. That is a wonderful, smiley, poppy and infectious song that I even like."
If I were Adams management here are four songs I would have released as singles from his new album that are so much better than that Call Me Maybe drivel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oipu3xhWWio&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntSnwm4Wej0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH8j-BmcTlo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

And here's your smiley poppy songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hyHrErZXNM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZZbHK5sCSc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Not to insult you, GF, but is this what you like? Do you really think there is any comparison as far as good music, stage presence or talent??? And I thought I respected you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ljK-Et6XDk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

LOL

[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
In re the Call Me Maybe singer. I recently went to four radio concerts where multiple artists performed. Quite interesting for me.
Adam was great of course but not the best live performer of the bunch. Flo Rida,and Enrique Iglesias killed it!! But
CRJ was one of the WORST live. Boring as watching paint dry. And that song is a stunning example of an inane pop hit, no where near the musical sophistication of most of Adams songs. Music listeners of today are so "dumbed down."
In re Adam kissing his guitarist, he does this for the fans (he's even said it) because we LOVE it! That's an on-stage show. He champions gay rights by just walking the walk in the public eye.
One more observation about most of the anti Adam posters on
this board. I don't know a lot about Queen but I know a lot more about them than most of you know about AL. Not only do a lot of you not LIKE him, you do not GET him.
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It's summer in Ontario, a lovely time when dicking around on the internet defending things one didn't say is well down the list of anything anybody feels like doing. However since I'm now officially on vacation, and since I'm still trying to finish off this endless 3 litre cask of shitty Cabernet Merlot a week later, and further because I remain outside on my deck in the beautiful Canadian night, throwing dirty looks into the darkness hoping I'll make intimidating eye contact with a squirrel-- in the light of all that, I've found the fire just for this evening. ;)

When I brought up 'Call Me Maybe' and called it a 'wonderful song', those comments were limited to the context of a) the radio single; and b) the video. I neither know nor care if Ms. Jepsen sounds like a wounded walrus or the aural manifestation of my crappy wine when she sings live because that wasn't the point. The song works because it's catchy, universal (which is different than inane), sweet, and it sounds like she's singing it with a smile all the way through. It's spawned endless memes and celebrity lip syncs, because it's fun and it just works. I don't own the song, sing it in the shower, squee when it's on the radio, or doodle Carly's name in my oatmeal. I just noted an example of a successful pop song versus, um, anything off Trespassing so far. Nobody new is going to be able to swoon over dreamy Adam and his leather strangled megacrotch or his nectar of the sparkly drama gods voice if he can't get on the radio in any substantial way. Round 1: Carly.

Also, *I* didn't say Adam kissed his guitarist to 'further gay rights', *you* said he didn't. Which doesn't make me guilty of a "false statement". I noted only that in comparing the two public presentations of gay themes/imagery the twist ending in having a theoretically hunky positively presented man be gay in a charming, unexpected and funny way does heaps more for the zeitgeist than the random asinine Frenching of a guy on stage over and over again. If that's seriously you guys perpetuating that, do him a favour and stop. With fans like that, who needs detractors. He looks foolish, fake, adolescent and flush with desire for himself. That's not a 'show', it's stuff people who need to fill in the gaps between themselves and effortless authenticity do to entertain the easily titillated and 'sophisticated'. Round two: Carly.

I GET him just fine. I just don't really WANT him.

[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
Not to insult you, GF, but is this what you like? Do you really think there is any comparison as far as good music, stage presence or talent??? And I thought I respected you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ljK-Et6XDk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I like Queen, Meatloaf, ELO, AC/DC, Thin Lizzy, Rush, endless other bands and solo artists who no matter their genre communicate something authentic, exciting and moving. I think Carly penned and sang a successful radio single that makes people feel good and feel connected. Great for her. Beyond that, don't burden me with a bunch of irritating strawman. If I ignore you on occasion in the future it won't be because I'm mad, and it won't be because you've knocked me out with a brilliant uppercut, and it won't be because I don't like you or appreciate your input. It will be because I usually can't be arsed defending things I don't think and never said because people don't have enough restraint to read what's actually there rather than what they'd just like to rail about themselves.

Give it up GF.  There's a reason your handle isn't Grateful Fanatic. somebodywholovesadam is probably a decent, wonderful person, who is an AL fanatic incapable of accepting anything not 100% for her boy.  Good singer, great voice, no soul, end of story.  If he's more than a footnote in music history atthe end of his career I'll be shocked.  And switch to Pinot Noir for the summer, much lighter, and ditch the cask :)

The casks are a new experiment because I only have one (generous) glass in the evening usually, and even a 750 ml bottle gets icky in the time I can drink it if nobody else is either there or imbibing in it. The casks are airtight and good for 6 weeks in theory, though I get about a week and a half or two out of them. I'm going to try Naked Grape Shiraz next. We'll see how that goes!

@GF, btw, my LOL above was knee jerk reaction to the " I thot I respected you" comment from swla. Understood the Carla post. As I've said, your posts are intelligent and entertaining :-). You don't get to be the Ambassador though, thats AM. heh. I do agree with SheerBN, except with regard to wine and I'm very wine illiterate. When drinking, I down a shot of really good Vodka, straight up. Oh and..happy vacation! Wish it was ME. I need one so badly.

Never heard Call Me Maybe so I just checked it out and yep, it's drivel. But it's really, really catchy drivel! When the video finished, my first thought was, "Cute! I want to see that again!"

I watched those five AL videos and while I don't think any of those songs are terrible, none of them jumped out at me as catchy or memorable.

IMO, the song Lollipop by MIKA is a catchy pop song of the type that AL is trying to do. Actually, MIKA is a good model for AL -- his song Grace Kelly is catchy pop that also showcases an amazing voice and vocal range. I can't imagine anyone but MIKA singing Grace Kelly and getting it right! AL's songs, on the other hand, don't do anything to really showcase his voice.

Tarabostes
Definitely it is a dead end for me , nothing interesting, challenging will happen anymore, the same goat-like singing, the same "Freddie is irreplaceable", or Brian and Roger , 2 senile morons who want to go on with their career. We don't want to broaden the picture a little to see that Queen are not the only rock legends who have resumed their career , and we are talking , don't forget about rock legends. With or without guest singers , bands complete, incomplete, changed.
And it seems old fans didn't go crazy! R.Plant singing a duet with a country music singer, something that would have been lethal for many Queen fans(or so-called). Or Deep Purple playing without R.Blackmore. Let's lynch them! Or Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull(another love of my life ) one of the most original, eccentric guys/voices who , stubbornly has refused a "voice helper" a long period of time . Why do they make such spectacular come backs? Because, predictable, they can. And because present-day rock voices , with some exceptions, are either lame or sound very pop-ish, and because crazy guitar solos can't be heard anymore.

[QUOTE] [b]Missreclusive wrote:[/b] I do agree with SheerBN, except with regard to wine and I'm very wine illiterate. [/QUOTE]
Me too. That's how I ended up married to a liquid ton of grumpy Cabernet Merlot. :) Wine is more of a dinner compliment or evening ritual kind of thing. Gin is what I drink for fun. Beer is what I drink for hockey. For an Adam Lambert concert I'd choose a nice fruity strychnine varietal with oak undertones.

Sometimes I think deep down I just post things so I can read
GFs long nonsensical reply posts. Because its been 105 frickin' degrees here this summer, too hot to sit on the patio. And I'll do anything to keep from cleaning my house. Hmm. This could be the root of my Adam obsession.
Just had dinner with my friend who went to Hammersmith shows. You won't believe how much the hardcore
Queen fans LOVED Adam. Guess they were just caught up in the moment.

And, really, Grateful Fan, Cabernet Merlot? I prefer a nice sun dried Shirazr, a Kir Royale or a good FRUITY martini.

And I prefer Reed's Ginger Beer! :o)

BTW, Adam is a ginger. Why doesn't he just give up the black hair dye and all of that cakey makeup? The eye liner is OK, but that thick coat of stuff on his face does not enhance it. There are some things about the young lad that I don't understand.

It was such a relief when Brian gave up the hair dye!

Ive never really understood terms like "hardcore Queen fan" or "real Queen fan", especially when they're used in modern context. Queen finished being Queen when Fred died and their last live concert was in 1986, 26 years ago. Whatever is going on now, good or bad, isn't "Queen", it's always going to be a pale imitation. Then again, maybe I've answered my own query: maybe a hardcore Queen fan is someone who will watch any combination featuring Brian & Rog and still believe somehow it's "Queen". The closest it gets is when Brian and/or Rog perform their own songs. At least, though, Brian, Rog and Paul Rodgers had some credibility as a "supergroup". Queen + Lambert is a shameless cash in on Lambert's success and high profile following Idol. Thank feck it's over. Maybe now they'll consider doing some studio work on their own.

I'm defining "hardcore Queen fan" as someone who's followed them from the early days with Freddie, knows their music well and has seen them perform live. The fans that LOVED Adam were older fans who have followed Qeen forever with Freddie and through their various iterations. One gentleman in particular has been following since their pub days before they became super famous. He says NO one has been as good a fit as Adam since Freddie. Similar sentiments were expressed by "hardcore" fans there. I'm not pointing this out to try to brainwash you into liking Adam, simply to illustrate that it's not only Glamberts who love Adam and recognize his talent and think he IS a good fit with Queen.

P.S. just curious. Are you a man?