Better? It's so relative, obviously it has different
meanings for the two of us. Of course, for you, an old fan, who was lucky enough to see/listen to their great songs live , better means Brian playing with more energy, Roger juggling on drums with more dexterity. For me, an unlucky enough fan , who could only listen to their albums or watch their MVs
(and this only after '89) , this apparent disadvantage has turned into an advantage:I am not addicted to old versions, I don't keep an accurate time , the minute when Brian used to play a solo in one song or another. For me better means different. To see and hear mature , hirsute but rejuvenated Brian and Roger is pure joy, why should I spoil it comparing, for example, Who Wants... performed by them and AL with the MV? Both are great.
To Sheer Brass Neck
plumrach · Member since
I would love to see Roger doing lead vocals on anything related to Queen, he is quite capable and Rufus is pretty good on the drums, so maybe if they want to do something in the future go with that rather than guest singers
Vocal harmony · Member since
The most criticism towards Adam Lambert seems to be coming from people who haven't been to one of the shows.
The YouTube footage doesn't tell half the story. The atmosphere and Lamberts ability to carry the show was unquestioned by most of the people who bought tickets.
The shows felt more complete and "Queen" like than the Paul Rodgers tours.
In my mind seeing some of the footage I thought it questionable, but standing in the audience was a whole different ball game
If you want the argument to carry weight, at least do it from experience rather than sitting with a lap top and a cup of coffee.
The Real Wizard · Member since
But it's so easy to win an argument when you aren't armed with frivolous things like "evidence" ..
Holly2003 · Member since
A bit of a misleading argument really as most concerts sounds good when you're at them. Even The Pogues sounded good when I saw them and they're shite. I saw Queen + PR live and it was excellent but Return of the Champions demonstrated that Rodgers' voice isn't suitable for many Queen songs (and a poor setlist of hits didn't help). I've no doubt most at Queen + Lambert enjoyed themeselves. However, if there's a CD or DVD release I suspect those who went to the shows will be surprised how different it sounds, and not just because it's been touched up.
DLCVinnuendo · Member since
well, few surprises in hammersmith, we wait for new releases soon, especially hammer 75 and 79, no hammer 12 queen productions!!!!!
someonewholikesadam · Member since
I think you are wrong Holly. I sat thru many "acts" waiting for Adam to perform and have been to concerts where other artists perform . They don't always sound live.
someonewholikesadam · Member since
It almost sounds like Holly refuses to admit that maybe a large number of people really like Adam with Queen.
Holly2003 · Member since
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[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] It almost sounds like Holly refuses to admit that maybe a large number of people really like Adam with Queen.[/QUOTE] Err... no. I said beforehand that most people who went would probably enjoy it.
GratefulFan · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
But it's so easy to win an argument when you aren't armed with frivolous things like "evidence" ..[/QUOTE]
Aren't you kind of the last guy that should be seeming to devalue the information contained in recorded performances, and their worth in critical assessment?
someonewholikesadam · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
A bit of a misleading argument really as most concerts sounds good when you're at them. Even The Pogues sounded good when I saw them and they're shite. I saw Queen + PR live and it was excellent but Return of the Champions demonstrated that Rodgers' voice isn't suitable for many Queen songs (and a poor setlist of hits didn't help). I've no doubt most at Queen + Lambert enjoyed themeselves. However, if there's a CD or DVD release I suspect those who went to the shows will be surprised how different it sounds, and not just because it's been touched up. [/QUOTE]
Doesn't sound like from this post, Holly, but maybe I misunderstood the intent of it.
john bodega · Member since
"The most criticism towards Adam Lambert seems to be coming from people who haven't been to one of the shows"
Aside from obvious stuff like crowd hysteria, I actually believe that listening to music at a proper volume excites different parts of your hearing than it does when you're just at home. When I saw The Who in 2009, Roger literally sounded 20 years younger than he did when I got the tape home and had a sit through it. I don't think I was delusional; I just think the volume distorts things a little. It's why I'm addicted to loud headphone use; which I'm having to give up because of my tinnitus.
Having said all of that, it's very likely that someone who goes to a Q+AL show will have a different impression of how he sounds. And live music is (no matter how dodgy) almost always a worthwhile experience if you just go there to enjoy it.
None of this accounts for his numerous fuck-ups, bad choices or goofiness though. I still have the faintest hope that I'll one day hear Brian playing without some worthless shmuck gumming up the airwaves, but I doubt it very much.
john bodega · Member since
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50RKT0Umqdw
Sounds amazing!
cacatua · Member since
Some reviews at ticketmaster from people who were there: