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Brian may is on the BBC now talking about Badgers..8.45 uk time..
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99jaystang
gotta love a grumpy Brian
Holly2003
[QUOTE] [b]99jaystang wrote:[/b]
gotta love a grumpy Brian [/QUOTE]
It would be nice if he showed some other emotions every now and then...
gotta love a grumpy Brian [/QUOTE]
It would be nice if he showed some other emotions every now and then...
Russian Headlong
making typical tree hugging veggy comments. he's seems to be ok about cows being slaughtered but not cuddly badgers ffs! love the guys music (bar some of the recent disasters such as lambert) but i don't like his tree hugging politics.
Micrówave
At least he recycles... as evidenced by some of his more recent guitar solos.
GratefulFan
He also *coughadamlambert* composts.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Russian Headlong wrote:[/b]
making typical tree hugging veggy comments. he's seems to be ok about cows being slaughtered but not cuddly badgers ffs! love the guys music (bar some of the recent disasters such as lambert) but i don't like his tree hugging politics.[/QUOTE]
He's vegetarian, and has spoken out many times about the meat industry.
But even if he hadn't... it's kind of silly to demonize someone for not speaking out against every atrocity possible. Why not blame Mandela for not curing malaria? All he did was help end apartheid... shame on him!
Brian is advocating that we treat all creatures as equally as we possibly can. It isn't rocket science.
making typical tree hugging veggy comments. he's seems to be ok about cows being slaughtered but not cuddly badgers ffs! love the guys music (bar some of the recent disasters such as lambert) but i don't like his tree hugging politics.[/QUOTE]
He's vegetarian, and has spoken out many times about the meat industry.
But even if he hadn't... it's kind of silly to demonize someone for not speaking out against every atrocity possible. Why not blame Mandela for not curing malaria? All he did was help end apartheid... shame on him!
Brian is advocating that we treat all creatures as equally as we possibly can. It isn't rocket science.
GratefulFan
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
Brian is advocating that we treat all creatures as equally as we possibly can. It isn't rocket science.[/QUOTE]
Unless those creatures are human and in disagreement. And then we're to be as abusive as is necessary.
Nobody does our beloved Brian (and I mean that completely) any favours by advocating his particular style of advocacy. He's a scientist and as such has a scientific reputation at risk because he conducts himself like a slavering partisan cherry picking already spun data while presenting it as the objective scientific truth. Listening to his reasoning on this topic has many times left me scratching my head completely that this is a man who had sufficient command of scientific principles to ever earn a doctorate in astrophysics. He's human being and as such has a personal reputation at risk, also because he conducts himself like a slavering partisan who is utterly contemptuous of anybody who doesn't agree with him and the rest of the "right thinking" gang. He's been subtly and not so subtly denigrated in the media over and over again because of this objectionable behaviour. He couldn't even keep his Save Me Facebook page together a couple of years ago because it was a complete cesspit of abuse as modeled right from the top. His campaign has been rewarding at times but it also causes him continual stress, loneliness and disillusion if we're to believe his own words, which I do. That is at least in part because he conducts himself like the worst of the animal rights people, which is to say like a BULLY and a NUTCASE half the time, and too few people look and listen hard enough to notice. Fewer than that say it out loud.
Badgers and people are not "equal". That concept is absurd. If you could ask a badger the same thing, he'd tell you that too. He's mostly concerned with the welfare of other badgers, as he should be. We as people have moral systems and consciences and cognitive abilities that give us responsibilities not to abuse our power but many animal rights activists would have us held to a standard where we, animals ourselves, don't get to participate in the same natural world all the other creatures do. Animals eat other animals, move other animals out of their way with extreme prejudice, and kill things, including humans, just in case. Animals have enormous legal protections from powerful and plundering humans, as they should, but quite a few humans need protection from deranged animal rights activists who are wild misathropists driven by truck sized egos projected all over chickens or whatever. Look, I don't even kill spiders. I ignore them or escort them out of my house. I am guilt ridden and anguished, no word of a lie, when I have to kill mice in my house and that is after trying just about every other method to reliably catch them alive or control them without having to be responsible for ending their lives. Squirrels torment me in the summer and I let them. Sometimes I even buy them peanuts! I could easily fall in love with some badger. But I recognize all this as a human vulnerability, an indulgence, even an emotional error in some ways, that allows me to avoid decisions and feelings I would find difficult. Caring deeply about other creatures is both a strength and a weakness, and as such I know that I have to get me and my emotional response the hell out of the way of people who have by knowledge, necessity or temperament a different perspective. I would be EMBARRASSED to be abusing hunters, farmers, conservationists, cows, naturalists, whatever the way Brian May does because of my own personal and eminently fallible feelings. But then, I don't have a truck sized ego that I project all over chickens and badgers.
Brian is advocating that we treat all creatures as equally as we possibly can. It isn't rocket science.[/QUOTE]
Unless those creatures are human and in disagreement. And then we're to be as abusive as is necessary.
Nobody does our beloved Brian (and I mean that completely) any favours by advocating his particular style of advocacy. He's a scientist and as such has a scientific reputation at risk because he conducts himself like a slavering partisan cherry picking already spun data while presenting it as the objective scientific truth. Listening to his reasoning on this topic has many times left me scratching my head completely that this is a man who had sufficient command of scientific principles to ever earn a doctorate in astrophysics. He's human being and as such has a personal reputation at risk, also because he conducts himself like a slavering partisan who is utterly contemptuous of anybody who doesn't agree with him and the rest of the "right thinking" gang. He's been subtly and not so subtly denigrated in the media over and over again because of this objectionable behaviour. He couldn't even keep his Save Me Facebook page together a couple of years ago because it was a complete cesspit of abuse as modeled right from the top. His campaign has been rewarding at times but it also causes him continual stress, loneliness and disillusion if we're to believe his own words, which I do. That is at least in part because he conducts himself like the worst of the animal rights people, which is to say like a BULLY and a NUTCASE half the time, and too few people look and listen hard enough to notice. Fewer than that say it out loud.
Badgers and people are not "equal". That concept is absurd. If you could ask a badger the same thing, he'd tell you that too. He's mostly concerned with the welfare of other badgers, as he should be. We as people have moral systems and consciences and cognitive abilities that give us responsibilities not to abuse our power but many animal rights activists would have us held to a standard where we, animals ourselves, don't get to participate in the same natural world all the other creatures do. Animals eat other animals, move other animals out of their way with extreme prejudice, and kill things, including humans, just in case. Animals have enormous legal protections from powerful and plundering humans, as they should, but quite a few humans need protection from deranged animal rights activists who are wild misathropists driven by truck sized egos projected all over chickens or whatever. Look, I don't even kill spiders. I ignore them or escort them out of my house. I am guilt ridden and anguished, no word of a lie, when I have to kill mice in my house and that is after trying just about every other method to reliably catch them alive or control them without having to be responsible for ending their lives. Squirrels torment me in the summer and I let them. Sometimes I even buy them peanuts! I could easily fall in love with some badger. But I recognize all this as a human vulnerability, an indulgence, even an emotional error in some ways, that allows me to avoid decisions and feelings I would find difficult. Caring deeply about other creatures is both a strength and a weakness, and as such I know that I have to get me and my emotional response the hell out of the way of people who have by knowledge, necessity or temperament a different perspective. I would be EMBARRASSED to be abusing hunters, farmers, conservationists, cows, naturalists, whatever the way Brian May does because of my own personal and eminently fallible feelings. But then, I don't have a truck sized ego that I project all over chickens and badgers.
Holly2003
I kill spiders. I hate them. I usually don't harm small creatures. I teach my kids not to step on snails and worms because it's a crap old life for them, and they don't need it being made worse by a 7 year old's wellington boots. But spiders deserve everything they get, because they're creepy ugly little feckers that are always sneaking up on me. Same goes for Ashley Cole.
Shumway
Honey badger don't give a shit...
waunakonor
I'm the same way with spiders, GratefulFan (though not you, Holly.)
Saint Jiub
... and the same thing goes for snakes and hornets ...
ARTIST: Monty Python
TITLE: All Things Dull and Ugly
Lyrics and Chords
All things dull and ugly, all creatures short and squat
All things rude and nasty, the Lord God made the lot
Each little snake that poisons, each little wasp that stings
He made their brutish venom, He made their horrid wings
/ C F C - G D G G7 / C F C CF C G7 C - /
/ G D G GC G D G E7 / Am - D7 GC G D7 G7 - /
All things sick and cancerous, all evil great and small
All things foul and dangerous, the Lord God made them all
Each nasty little hornet, each beastly little squid
Who made the spiky urchin? Who made the shark? He did
All things scabbed and ulcerous, all pox both great and small
Putrid, foul and gangrenous, the Lord God made them all
/ G D G GC G D G E7 / Am - D7 GC G D7 G7 - /
ARTIST: Monty Python
TITLE: All Things Dull and Ugly
Lyrics and Chords
All things dull and ugly, all creatures short and squat
All things rude and nasty, the Lord God made the lot
Each little snake that poisons, each little wasp that stings
He made their brutish venom, He made their horrid wings
/ C F C - G D G G7 / C F C CF C G7 C - /
/ G D G GC G D G E7 / Am - D7 GC G D7 G7 - /
All things sick and cancerous, all evil great and small
All things foul and dangerous, the Lord God made them all
Each nasty little hornet, each beastly little squid
Who made the spiky urchin? Who made the shark? He did
All things scabbed and ulcerous, all pox both great and small
Putrid, foul and gangrenous, the Lord God made them all
/ G D G GC G D G E7 / Am - D7 GC G D7 G7 - /
Saint Jiub
From the Contractual Obligation Album by Monty Python:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Lp4-y4RFE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Lp4-y4RFE
GratefulFan
[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]
I'm the same way with spiders, GratefulFan (though not you, Holly.)[/QUOTE]
My Holly-spiders equivalent is bats. I would absolutely step on a bat, or preferably have a seven year old step on it, throw a wellington at it with a seven year old still in it, whatever it took. Of course there would be none of that anyway because bat face would have already tangled it's creepy little demon claws in my hair and sunk its fangs in my wing beaten head and I'd have perished of terror and disgust. But spiders are OK. :)
I'm the same way with spiders, GratefulFan (though not you, Holly.)[/QUOTE]
My Holly-spiders equivalent is bats. I would absolutely step on a bat, or preferably have a seven year old step on it, throw a wellington at it with a seven year old still in it, whatever it took. Of course there would be none of that anyway because bat face would have already tangled it's creepy little demon claws in my hair and sunk its fangs in my wing beaten head and I'd have perished of terror and disgust. But spiders are OK. :)
Wiley
"Brian may is on the BBC now talking about Badgers..8.45 uk time.."
At first I read "talking about Badgers for the 845th time", hahaha :)
At first I read "talking about Badgers for the 845th time", hahaha :)