Queen about to break up - the personal problems during 1982-1986?

[QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth wrote:[/b]

Live Aid is amazing![/QUOTE]

Last night I wanted to visit QZ but mistakenly typed it in the YouTube search, and I found your Skype debates. Long story short... I've been listening to them almost obsessively, and you inspired me to check out Live Aid again after all these years. Guess what? I love it too, it was phenomenal!

[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth wrote:[/b]

Live Aid is amazing![/QUOTE]

Last night I wanted to visit QZ but mistakenly typed it in the YouTube search, and I found your Skype debates. Long story short... I've been listening to them almost obsessively, and you inspired me to check out Live Aid again after all these years. Guess what? I love it too, it was phenomenal![/QUOTE]

Haha. We've gotten better over the months during the debates (we were finding our feet on the first handfuls of debates). We recently finished a re-debate of the Magic Tour (inspired by Hungarian Rhapsody), and it went really well. I spent about half the debate defending Freddie Mercury and the other half talking about songs. I'll try to get that up in the next week.

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[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth wrote:[/b]

Live Aid is amazing![/QUOTE]

Last night I wanted to visit QZ but mistakenly typed it in the YouTube search, and I found your Skype debates. Long story short... I've been listening to them almost obsessively, and you inspired me to check out Live Aid again after all these years. Guess what? I love it too, it was phenomenal![/QUOTE]

About Live Aid in general, you gotta check out the Radio Ga Ga from it. It's one of the absolute best Freddie live performances and he completely nails the song.

I have a subscriber friend that wrote this comment about Freddie Mercury's Live Aid performance of Bo Rhap:

[b]"I never really? write long comments but i will here. Im not over how perfrect this version is. He sounds like a new amazing Freddie. He dosnt use his typical macho 80's voice, he uses his sweet clarity voice and sounds so clean. Also he stops the obnoxious over singing, he sings like a 70's version with more power. I mean compare the first verse to Leeds 1982. This ones not obnoxious and shouted. Just perfect..."[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth wrote:[/b]

"Also he stops the obnoxious over singing, he sings like a 70's version with more power. I mean compare the first verse to Leeds 1982. This ones not obnoxious and shouted. Just perfect"[/QUOTE]

He had rested his voice for a couple months, so he could do pretty much anything he wanted. He didn't have to resort to the shouting. The pure clarity of his voice is what came through.

Queen's one-off gigs were always top notch shows for Fred - Champions video shoot, Saarbrucken 79, Montreal 81, Live Aid. All with good reason.

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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth wrote:[/b]

"Also he stops the obnoxious over singing, he sings like a 70's version with more power. I mean compare the first verse to Leeds 1982. This ones not obnoxious and shouted. Just perfect"[/QUOTE]

He had rested his voice for a couple months, so he could do pretty much anything he wanted. He didn't have to resort to the shouting. The pure clarity of his voice is what came through.

Queen's one-off gigs were always top notch shows for Fred - Champions video shoot, Saarbrucken 79, Montreal 81, Live Aid. All with good reason.[/QUOTE]

Vocal rest really does help, but I think he also did some "training" or something because he was singing "differently" at Live Aid compared with the previous tour (even as far back as some Hot Space stuff).

He was singing with not only a lighter tone (probably because of the vocal rest), but he was singing with more of a "mixed voice." When he sings all those Bb4s on Bo Rhap, the chorus parts on Champions, or the C5 on Champions, those notes sound much less strained sounding compared with other tours, and the notes sound much "lighter" compared with the same notes he hit on other tours (just compare the A4s on Hammer To Fall from the Works Tour to the Live Aid version--the Live Aid version has much lighter-sounding A4s).

I don't think Freddie "shouted" as much as some people say, but I do get the gist of what my friend wrote (the bolded statement).

I recall that in 1986 the Dutch radio effectively announced the break up of Queen. It was on KRO radio and the DJ said, "what if you want to break up in style and you are Queen? You rent a church and record an anthem. And then he played Who wants to live forever for the first time (as far that I know of) on Dutch radio.

Shortly after that Airplay, Queen played in Holland and like on other occassions in spring 1986, they also referred in Holland to the rumours. For me it was only logic that they did that just before the live performance of who wants to live forever.

[QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth wrote:[/b]

He was singing with not only a lighter tone (probably because of the vocal rest), but he was singing with more of a "mixed voice." When he sings all those Bb4s on Bo Rhap, the chorus parts on Champions, or the C5 on Champions, those notes sound much less strained sounding compared with other tours, and the notes sound much "lighter" compared with the same notes he hit on other tours (just compare the A4s on Hammer To Fall from the Works Tour to the Live Aid version--the Live Aid version has much lighter-sounding A4s).
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Still not as easy A4's as the Crazy tour though! ;)

The supposition was that Queen were smarter than breaking up; I got that off The Magic Years.

John Deacon was quoted in the book written by Jim Jenkins and jackie Gunn that Queen "ceased to exist as a band in the proper sense of the word in 1987"
"The Works" was a comeback in terms of commecials success but not of internal relations. There were a lot of arguments and bitter fights during the production of that album- prompting one band member to disappear for a few days.
but like Freddie said:"Why kill the goose that lays us golden eggs?"

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"The Works" was a comeback in terms of commecials success but not of internal relations. There were a lot of arguments and bitter fights during the production of that album- prompting one band member to disappear for a few days.
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That was Brian, after Deacon insisted on having a keyboard solo in Break Free instead of the guitar solo he had already recorded.

Are you sure about Brian dissapeard?
Fred Mandel and Mack told it was recorded when Brian was out for dinner , and when he came back, he didnt like it but accepted it.

As always, the truth is somewhere in the middle I guess !

Would be interesting to have William Orbit warm over that guitar solo. :-)

Yes, I guess you are true The Real Wizzard. There are a lot of voices...something in the middle.