Queen Demos

Ok a while back there was a post about the demos album that is Not coming out. But going back to these tracks...I think as Queen are coming to there final years now, Id rather here Tracks like Guess were falling out...Finished off rather than Born free etc....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4R_Kmlt5Zw

agreed, if still not even a remote piss-into-the wind chance

i know i've said this before but look at the purple/rainbow reissues?

f*cking hell - that's how to treat the fans....burn 25th, machine head 40th, rainbow rising (last year)
rainbow donw to earth (last year)....all have great additional tracks that give the fans what they want...
and it doesn't stop there....gillan's double trouble, and rainbow's long live rock and roll and on stage
are getting similar treatment...have ordered the latter two for monday delivery

pity that qpl couldn't give a flying fuck about their fans and do something similar

To be fair, and this is coming from someone who has absolutely no interest in Queen post 91, do the bands you mention have going concerns? If they were, in one form or another, still selling out arena's around the world would the massive retrospective re-issues have gone ahead? I have no idea myself but can sort of see why 'Queen' function in the way they do.

As someone who has been desperate for anything remotely interesting to be released officially since Made In Heaven I can't quite believe I just said that, but the Queen business model is sort of understandable.

rainbow finished 15 yrs ago, and ritchie b has been doing the whole middle-ages, mystic, folk, renaissance thing ever since
these releases have been for fans - which is a nice gesture when you consider that they'll make more money from
recycling greatest hits packages....i wonder who we know that does that loads?

Well, nice gestures don't exist in Business.
The 40 anniversary proper release of demos and book with memorabilia, could be considered one of their biggest nice efforts in the last decade (being the freddie mercury box the previous one).

The Deep Purple comparison is not fair really. Their last hits were in the 70's and they have a narrow set of items to choose.
Everybody knows that the average rock fan loves machine head and burn.

Queen was so prolific in their career that its very tempting to cash out only the greatest hits every Christmas.

I prefer they release once for all some of the pending shows : Rainbow 74, Hammersmith 75
The Bob Harris 77 documentary in the works

Sometimes is nice to wish a lot of releases but since i dont have planned to "download them" but buy them, i wish they take it slow do i can afford it.

i think you need to look at the content of the albums i refer to as opposed to the original releases to understand what i mean.
but i'll give you an example
as you quote machine head:

1972 original vinyl lp
1986 converted to cdas per original lp tracklist
1997 25th anniversary 2 disc set - disc one bonus track: when a blind man cries, disc two - bonus disc as per disc 1 (all remastered) plus maybe i'm a leo and lazy (original quad mixes)
2012 - 40th anniversary - disc 1 (quad remix disc), disc 2 (roger glover 1997 remixes), disc 3 (original album) disc 4 (1972 bbc in concert), disc 5 (dvd audio high res surround mix)...there's also a few single versions of tracks released in the usa

now that's looking after the fans -giving them something substantially more every time...not a 3 pseudo karaoke tracks, two live album tracks from irrelevant tours, a five year old non album track - all packageed as some cheap bonus mini-lp...shite - that's what queen did with ANATO sad fact is that....every one of the above 2012 release is possible to produce in one nice box set...think about it. they have plenty of tracks t make at least a four disc set...the standard album, a remixed version, the 5:1 version that came out on dvd audio and finally the christmas hammy disc in audio format
but they won't will they? because they can squeeze out another greatest bollox comp.

no

brENsKi i understand what you mean, but what i say is that Deep Purple have to go around and do something more substantial because they have a few mainstream albums and a narrow fan base (Im a purple fan too).

There's plenty of ANATO's releases to date, and if they do something substantial in there, probably someone else will complain that the album is re-released again.
Anato's Audio DVD and the 30 anniversary edition are quite good.

I prefer to have unreleased stuff. Damn i would even love to see the re-release of old documentaries in DVD or BR (Magic Years and Champions of the World)

A boxset of full Machine Head like CDs of Queen Albums cost money to produce and that would be added to the final product cost and most of us, fans aren't wealthy enough to keep track of those.

Queen have a great backing catalogue, but they really have missed some good oportunities to release an EXCELLENT product.

Of course Queen music will allways sell because it is beautifull and wonderfull. But there´s stil some old thinking regarding Queen Productions and their decisions.

Of course that the first release of an album, what´s going to define if it´s an excellent product or not it´s its content, the music. But after that first release, for every re-release the definitions changes, and i don´t think Queen Productions realize this. They believe that if it has Queen music, then the product is Excellent- wich they are right to a certain extent- but if this re-release is a comemorative edition, then just the songs of the original release are not enough!

You have to throw in some goodies for the fans who have supported the band in that period of time.
You still please the new fans who don´t know anything about Queen, but most importantly - you thank the old fans for the support. The ones that were there!

If you want an example on how it´s donne, just read what EMI did to Pink Floyd back catalogue with the campaign "Why Pink Floyd...?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Pink_Floyd...%3F

Well i think the 40th a anniversary book was an excellent thing for old fans too.

you're missing the point, mr queenfan sums it perfectly. just rehashing identical pressings is treating your paymasters (the fans) with contempt.
purple didn't have to make any special effort. they did it out of one motivation - money but the point is, no one minds shelling out if there's something
new and worthwhile included. most established bands have made their reissues/remasters/expandeds/deluxes worthwhile - and they're reaping the benefits
all of these bands have released very worthwhile reissues....beatles, ac/dc, elo, ufo, lizzy, springsteen, free, bowie, floyd, rainbow, gillan, who, small faces AND PURPLE

a 40th anniversary book does not constitute treating the fans well - especially when the vaults are full of unreleased/unheard stuff
purple are not the exception....queen are

"but they really have missed some good oportunities to release an EXCELLENT product. "

They haven't. The opportunities are still there and always will be.

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]

i think you need to look at the content of the albums i refer to as opposed to the original releases to understand what i mean.
but i'll give you an example
as you quote machine head:

1972 original vinyl lp
1986 converted to cdas per original lp tracklist
1997 25th anniversary 2 disc set - disc one bonus track: when a blind man cries, disc two - bonus disc as per disc 1 (all remastered) plus maybe i'm a leo and lazy (original quad mixes)
2012 - 40th anniversary - disc 1 (quad remix disc), disc 2 (roger glover 1997 remixes), disc 3 (original album) disc 4 (1972 bbc in concert), disc 5 (dvd audio high res surround mix)...there's also a few single versions of tracks released in the usa[/QUOTE]

Really, I already own Machine Head on SACD and the 2 disc anniversary set and this new box set does not interest me at all. For me it is just a bundle of previously released products in a nice box. If Queen would release this for ie ANATO like:
Disc 1 - remastered cd
Disc 2 - 5.1 dvd audio
Disc 3 - 2011 bonus ep
Disc 4 - concert
Then there is really not that much new innit...

They have become very lazy in terms of putting any effort in to anything they release, there squeezing as much cash out of fans constantly re-re-re-releasing the same stuff, if other bands can give bonus discs etc what there fans want why does Queen not? in my opinion because they dont give a damn about fans as long as they/we keep buying and buying.

They are so out of touch at times it's quite funny watching them in interviews promoting a re-release and sitting there all proud like it's brand new unheard material.

All Brian seems to care about is running after that young blonde kerry ellis and spouting on about the world is over populated lol he has to be the biggest hipocrite as an animal welfare activist he only slams non-famous people for hunting animals and turns a blind eye to the Royal family who hunt for fun, Pamela Anderson has bigger balls than Brian when it comes to speaking her mind i.e Lady Ga Ga wearing meat or recently wearing a real fur coat and bragging about it. Rant over lol

I dont think Queen will ever give fans something even close to what we would like released it's all about money.

I'm not sure I'd include Bowie on that list - his reissues have been really lacking, with only about 3 in the last 22 years being must haves even then including dubious new mixes but leaving out obvious unreleased material every half interested fan will have found online.