"utter indifference to both them and reasonable standards of argument"
Which is why it was a great idea to bring the Special Olympics into it, no doubt. Laughable in all of the wrong ways.
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Zebonka12 wrote:
"utter indifference to both them and reasonable standards of argument"
Which is why it was a great idea to bring the Special Olympics into it, no doubt. Laughable in all of the wrong ways.
Coming from the guy who has zero, I mean ZERO boundaries when it comes to humour this is a bit precious. I use 'Special Olympics' like I use 'retard': sometimes liberally and with a conscience that is utterly clear. There is no leap in my mind to people with actual intellectual or developmental challenges, or to their hard work and achievements. None. I can assure you my focus is completely on the imbecilic statements before me and the meme is simply efficient and in this case completely apt. By 'reasonable standards of arguments' I am not referring to politeness or political correctness, I'm talking about making a reasonable statement, ideally one rooted in a specific fact or two for a change, and then making a case. The way people blessed with intelligence should be able to here, but thus far have largely avoided.
I recall you and I talking about the beautiful, innocent and indefinable joy that developmentally disabled people can bring to those of us lucky to be around them when your nephew passed away. Any apology for the Special Olympics crack on this thread would be utterly insincere and utterly meaningless as those are where my thoughts and heart lay in the real world. Facing some of the poisonous attitudes in this thread I simply value frankness over diplomacy.
The Real Wizard wrote:
Seriously GF - you have become very embittered as of late. You used to be a wonderful voice of reason at this place. But these past few months you have become completely closed-minded to any views other than your own and have made it a full time job to troll people who are rationally picking apart your ever-worsening arguments.
You present yourself as being open-minded, but these past couple weeks you've revealed yourself to be far more dogmatic than even you might realize.
Just an observation - take it how you will. All BS stripped away, I sincerely hope you're doing alright.
Mmm hmmm. 'Rationally picking apart my arguments'. Where's that now?
You're a delusional bigot. You and bigot #2 seriously make me sick down to my toes and you can be assured that every drop of anger and disgust comes from that place and nowhere else. You don't have 'views' you have absurd, insulting and unsupported generalizations that serve to plump up a wholly inflated and arrogant view of the value of what is your clearly narrow experience. A truly poisonous attitude that frankly shames me as a fellow Canadian. Try giving a fuck about a fact or two for once and consider an ounce of contriteness for some of the documented garbage you have polluted this message board with.
The Real Wizard wrote: Seriously GF - you have become very embittered as of late. You used to be a wonderful voice of reason at this place. But these past few months you have become completely closed-minded to any views other than your own and have made it a full time job to troll people who are rationally picking apart your ever-worsening arguments.
You present yourself as being open-minded, but these past couple weeks you've revealed yourself to be far more dogmatic than even you might realize.
Just an observation - take it how you will. All BS stripped away, I sincerely hope you're doing alright.
Funily enough, I was thinking the same about you.
GratefulFan wrote:Zebonka12 wrote:
"utter indifference to both them and reasonable standards of argument"
Which is why it was a great idea to bring the Special Olympics into it, no doubt. Laughable in all of the wrong ways.
Coming from the guy who has zero, I mean ZERO boundaries when it comes to humour this is a bit precious.
Ha! Very true.
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Posted: 13 Jan 13, 18:19
The Real Wizard wrote:
Seriously GF - you have become very embittered as of late. You used to be a wonderful voice of reason at this place. But these past few months... All BS stripped away, I sincerely hope you're doing alright.
Posted: 03 Apr 13, 09:51
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:
GratefulFan... I have never seen you act in a way such as you have these last few pages, which I can only describe as fanatical and deeply worrying.
Posted: 02 Apr 13, 07:43
magicalfreddiemercury wrote:
...the hostility (and name-calling) has been present for many pages.
Posted: 13 Jan 13, 18:19
GratefulFan wrote:
Today, I managed to give myself a great big concussion.
Yeah it was probably that blow to the head. Or perhaps she is hysterical. You know what women are like. I mean what other POSSIBLE reason could there be for getting frustrated at some of the comments on here. Everyone knows that Christians are all deluded fools or brainwashed idiots. Oh and catholics priests are ALL paedos. And let's not forget they wear frocks/costumes, fancy dress etc. Definitely suspicious behavior. Doesn't happen in any other walk of life, after all ...
Meanwhile, In Cyprus the Orthodox Church offered it's entire wealth to shore up the struggling economy.* Evil bastards indeed ...
*yeah there's a degree of self-interest, since new proposed rules would tax their bank deposits but even so, I don't recall any other very wealthy institutions (or individuals ) offering to help in Cyprus, or anywhere else.
Meanwhile, In Cyprus the Orthodox Church offered it's entire wealth to shore up the struggling economy.* Evil bastards indeed ...
*yeah there's a degree of self-interest, since new proposed rules would tax their bank deposits but even so, I don't recall any other very wealthy institutions (or individuals ) offering to help in Cyprus, or anywhere else.
Holly2003 wrote:
Meanwhile, In Cyprus the Orthodox Church offered it's entire wealth to shore up the struggling economy.* Evil bastards indeed ...
Of course, the fact that the Church Of Cyprus owns vast tracts of land not to mention majority interests in banks and countless commercial businesses on the island is completely irrelevant to this gesture...self-interest is absolutely not involved, and aside from that, it's perfectly acceptable for a modern, secular democracy to have a *state church* that owns a considerable portion of supposedly free enterprise in said country.
Perhaps you need to read up on some of the details before you start applauding.
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:Holly2003 wrote:
Meanwhile, In Cyprus the Orthodox Church offered it's entire wealth to shore up the struggling economy.* Evil bastards indeed ...
Of course, the fact that the Church Of Cyprus owns vast tracts of land not to mention majority interests in banks and countless commercial businesses on the island is completely irrelevant to this gesture...self-interest is absolutely not involved, and aside from that, it's perfectly acceptable for a modern, secular democracy to have a *state church* that owns a considerable portion of supposedly free enterprise in said country.
Perhaps you need to read up on some of the details before you start applauding.
Oh ffs read ALL of what I said and not just the one bit you quoted.
Holly2003 wrote:
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:Holly2003 wrote:
Meanwhile, In Cyprus the Orthodox Church offered it's entire wealth to shore up the struggling economy.* Evil bastards indeed ...
Of course, the fact that the Church Of Cyprus owns vast tracts of land not to mention majority interests in banks and countless commercial businesses on the island is completely irrelevant to this gesture...self-interest is absolutely not involved, and aside from that, it's perfectly acceptable for a modern, secular democracy to have a *state church* that owns a considerable portion of supposedly free enterprise in said country.
Perhaps you need to read up on some of the details before you start applauding.
Oh ffs read ALL of what I said and not just the one bit you quoted.
Yeah, because it's totally unacceptable to point out a fallacious argument without addressing the rest of the uninteresting post...
Or maybe you've just made an ass of yourself again. How many times is that now?
Holly2003 wrote:
Or maybe you've just made an ass of yourself again. How many times is that now?
Ah yes, if wishes were ponies...not to mention the fact that just changing the subject might draw attention away from the fact that you just made a boob.
God you're ridiculous sometimes. Not only did the original post explicitly acknowledge a degree of self interest, a degree of self interest is precisely what an organization who likely counts assets in the billions of dollars and runs social programs with same owes it's constituents and in this case it's country. Do you think they're running bake sales and rolling pennies in the back room? It's not inherently evil or suspicious that a large religious organization has assets and investments and owns businesses. Ordinary people who give them money count on wise financial management. This move is still a positive and benevolent one for its country and if they have a large presence and influence and this is what they model with the power they have, all the better. A financial crisis of that magnitude could easily tear a country apart. Stop it with the inane anti-religious babble for its own sake. It's absurd and based on nothing but inexperience and a truly sad definition of 'liberalism' or whatever the European equivalent of that is.
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:
Of course, the fact that the Church Of Cyprus owns vast tracts of land not to mention majority interests in banks and countless commercial businesses on the island is completely irrelevant to this gesture...self-interest is absolutely not involved, and aside from that, it's perfectly acceptable for a modern, secular democracy to have a *state church* that owns a considerable portion of supposedly free enterprise in said country.
Perhaps you need to read up on some of the details before you start applauding.
I notice as well that you've adopted Bigot #1's format and manner of ironic ennui to make your redundant point. Try and think for yourself Thomas. Not by yourself though...that never seems to work out that well.
Foul-mouthing one poster who *always* remains polite, that's certainly a creative strategy to show your moral superiority. It's also a little juvenile to try and insult my intelligence, especially in the 13-year-old-teenager way you put it, but if you feel so strongly, I recommend you contact Leiden University to make them retract my cum laude master's degree, and perhaps you'd also like to have me stripped of my Theodore Roosevelt American History Award, as I'm not capable of thinking by myself.