So, who tried to pass this off as a 2004 session job?
Clearly the drum track is taken from the Somebody To Love stems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4VGN8q7Fyg
inu-liger · Member since
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C_Matt · Member since
Good observation. It's very strange, those are StL drums, the fills, some strange edits, a very flat drum line, very loud, the inflated snare, the cymbals, but it seems the song is real:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hKuiu0e3wE
But I think Mr. Fuller is innocent: This video was uploaded at 2008, years before StL multitracks were on Internet. Might those are the StL drums and the "Say You Love Me" producers used it with permissions, or Roger actually played the drums for the song.
The Real Wizard · Member since
It's definitely his ADATR kit. With 100% certainty I can say the drums are from 1976.
GratefulFan · Member since
And with 100% certainty I can say that editing the clear implication of dishonesty you made against David Fuller out of your initial post rather than apologizing for it pending further information is pretty low rent. Many people are likely to have read it over the hours before it was changed and perhaps before somebody bothered to dig up the 2008 video. How hard was that to find? Likely about as hard as me finding a 2004 press release announcing the collaboration, which was about 10 seconds hard. You are very comfortable making unsubstantiated accusations against Fuller, which perhaps is unsurprising given that his attitudes towards the sharing and distribution of rarities threaten those with power and privilege amassed in the chipmunk cheek stuffing world.
Sebastian · Member since
It's just sooooo bloody easy to judge others, ain't it?
GratefulFan · Member since
Was that for me? Because this kind of shifty, careless crap deserves calling out. If it doesn't seem so to anyone, it's only because it's not the proverbial you who is the target.
Jazz 78 · Member since
I agree with Bob. The drums are definitely from 76. As a fan since 77 I've heard STL for decdes and can tell you the cymbals are the Paiste's he used and the dryness of the drums is from the STL and ADATR sessions. Not a bad tune though.
waunakonor · Member since
I've been looking around and can't find a very definitive resource saying anything about it, which means there's a good chance it's fake. The closest thing I found was a page about all the various non-Queen things Roger Taylor has ever done, on which Cherie is listed (http://rogertaylor.info/guestdet.html), however there is a good chance that whoever does this site saw the video in question and assumed it was legitimate. I thought maybe I could find another video on YouTube with the same song, but alas all I could find was the DRF one. I was confused for a moment by another song called Say You Love Me by Cheri Keaggy which, as far as I can tell, is completely different despite seeming so close. As the Internet is often unreliable, the only conclusion I can make until I see more sound evidence otherwise is that this is fake. If GratefulFan says she found a press release on it, or a "2008 video," I would like to see where she found it, because it's not immediately available upon doing a Google or YouTube search for "roger taylor cherie," or, "say you love me cherie." She implies that they were easy to find, so I don't know if I'm looking in the wrong places or if she's just being misleading.
All that said, I've like DRF's YouTube channel for a long time, well before I discovered this site (I've also been fond of gregsynthbootlegs for a long time), and whenever I want to listen to some interesting Queen rarities, that channel is always there for me. So, seeing as I don't care much about all this sharing of rarities, I appreciate him even if he may or may not be passing off fakes as the real thing occasionally.
GratefulFan · Member since
The video I referenced was the one that ciber_mato found and posted above. The press release was from a wire service on behalf of Lava records on the release of the album. It credits Queen drummer Roger Taylor on the track. I certainly can't identify where the drumming originated but can note that a track that used a sample from Urgent was credited as "featuring the familiar guitar lick" while the Taylor track was listed as featuring the man himself.
The song is also on iTunes, with a release date of May 25, 2004, for 99 cents. So iTunes is another resource you sharp nosed fraud sniffers might want to file away.
A Word In Your Ear · Member since
It Is a Fake & David Fuller "Now" knows it too.
Mr Fuller has asked the question to Roger's wife Sarina. "Could You Have Roger, Listen to a bit of this track and see if he remembers doing the drums to it"
Sarina's reply "He (Roger) Did Not Play On This Track"
DavidRFuller · Member since
I'm gonna go with an press release over Roger's memory, someone asked him if he sang on Battersea Morning a few weeks ago and he said no, and that was recorded in 2010!
Just because the track has a similar pattern and tempo to another doesn't make it the same exact thing.
A Word In Your Ear · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]DavidRFuller wrote:[/b]
I'm gonna go with an press release over Roger's memory, someone asked him if he sang on Battersea Morning a few weeks ago and he said no, and that was recorded in 2010!
Just because the track has a similar pattern and tempo to another doesn't make it the same exact thing. [/QUOTE]
I didn't out right say you had posted a fake & pass it off as genuine, quite the opposite, just that you believed it to be genuine, now that Sarina has said that Roger did not play on it, I tend to believe what is said from the source (i.e Roger)
tero! 48531 · Member since
Let's face it, a recording company doesn't go around crediting an artist signed on to another label unless they are absolutely certain they have to.
Whether it's a re-recording from 2004, an edit from the GVH dvd surround audio, or if Roger personally provided the multitracks for his latest girlfriend, it doesn't matter a single bit.
It's still Roger performing on a mediocre single released in 2004, and being credited for his work.