One vote for no.
I guess Anton has already voted..
inu-liger
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The Real Wizard
john bodega
Moderators, as in plural?? Get real - we only need one, and you all know who it would be.
And I wouldn't welp too loudly, either - I've seen you engage with trolls before and yours would be some of the posts I'd probably delete. Hell, I can think of a fair few of my own posts that I'd probably excise.
I definitely agree with the gist of this though. More regular cleanups need to take place. People go on about "Don't feed the trolls!" but the fact of the matter is that not everyone on the forum has been around long enough to know the difference between a troll and a plain old asshole. Troll feeding is inevitable - it's human nature. More regular moderation and deletion of repeat offenders would make it less worthwhile for these asshats to continue doing what they do.
And QZ doesn't even need a hard bastard like me to do that job - they just need someone who can sign in more than once a month to look the place over and respond to complaints.
And I wouldn't welp too loudly, either - I've seen you engage with trolls before and yours would be some of the posts I'd probably delete. Hell, I can think of a fair few of my own posts that I'd probably excise.
I definitely agree with the gist of this though. More regular cleanups need to take place. People go on about "Don't feed the trolls!" but the fact of the matter is that not everyone on the forum has been around long enough to know the difference between a troll and a plain old asshole. Troll feeding is inevitable - it's human nature. More regular moderation and deletion of repeat offenders would make it less worthwhile for these asshats to continue doing what they do.
And QZ doesn't even need a hard bastard like me to do that job - they just need someone who can sign in more than once a month to look the place over and respond to complaints.
waunakonor
I agree with all previously mentioned sentiments.
Saint Jiub
Actually, all that is needed is the self-control to not reply to trolls.
john bodega
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
Actually, all that is needed is the self-control to not reply to trolls.[/QUOTE]
I've already explained why that's bull though. It's an unfortunate fact that not every user knows what a troll is.
Actually, all that is needed is the self-control to not reply to trolls.[/QUOTE]
I've already explained why that's bull though. It's an unfortunate fact that not every user knows what a troll is.
matt z
I voted no
I'm against most censorship especially on this site. Its actually pleasant to see some people shut up (assuming) as a result of the community.
Exceptions being that whole *"PLEASE DELETE" group of vitriolic messages from "that one dude" somehow connected to qpl.... and the asshole who kept posting Treasure Troll posts and nonsense.
Though I can see how someone can be provoked into it
Haven't been around as much as most of y'all though
I'm against most censorship especially on this site. Its actually pleasant to see some people shut up (assuming) as a result of the community.
Exceptions being that whole *"PLEASE DELETE" group of vitriolic messages from "that one dude" somehow connected to qpl.... and the asshole who kept posting Treasure Troll posts and nonsense.
Though I can see how someone can be provoked into it
Haven't been around as much as most of y'all though
matt z
*case in point above
IF QZ had full moderation I wouldn't be able to use the word "asshole" even though it was not used to accost anyone.
IF QZ had full moderation I wouldn't be able to use the word "asshole" even though it was not used to accost anyone.
inu-liger
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b] I'm against most censorship especially on this site. Its actually pleasant to see some people shut up (assuming) as a result of the community. [/QUOTE]
I feel you're missing the point though, matt. The problem is that logic you're hoping would work, people shutting up as a result of the community piling on them, just really doesn't work for all intents and purposes pertaining to what this poll is about, especially with the trolls.
That tactic has only served to degradation the quality of the site and the community itself, ironically enough, because the laissez faire attitude from the admins has indirectly encouraged people to become so vitriolic especially out of anger dealing persisently with these trolls over the years, to the point where we have lost a significant amount of good, classy and trustworthy users as a result of little to no intervention on the admins' parts.
Some among us who've been long-term users on this website have been insisting for over 10 years that there should be some form of moderation, even with LESS moderating than QOL! And we would only be told to just let things be the way they are, and that oh things would work themselves out.
I'm sorry, but things have most certainly NOT worked themselves out! These issues are still here, and getting worse every passing year.
We're not asking for the ouster of YV or Richard, we're simply asking for common sense by adding an individual or two who can oversee maintaining order on this forum. FFS.
/rant over
I feel you're missing the point though, matt. The problem is that logic you're hoping would work, people shutting up as a result of the community piling on them, just really doesn't work for all intents and purposes pertaining to what this poll is about, especially with the trolls.
That tactic has only served to degradation the quality of the site and the community itself, ironically enough, because the laissez faire attitude from the admins has indirectly encouraged people to become so vitriolic especially out of anger dealing persisently with these trolls over the years, to the point where we have lost a significant amount of good, classy and trustworthy users as a result of little to no intervention on the admins' parts.
Some among us who've been long-term users on this website have been insisting for over 10 years that there should be some form of moderation, even with LESS moderating than QOL! And we would only be told to just let things be the way they are, and that oh things would work themselves out.
I'm sorry, but things have most certainly NOT worked themselves out! These issues are still here, and getting worse every passing year.
We're not asking for the ouster of YV or Richard, we're simply asking for common sense by adding an individual or two who can oversee maintaining order on this forum. FFS.
/rant over
inu-liger
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
*case in point above
IF QZ had full moderation I wouldn't be able to use the word "asshole" even though it was not used to accost anyone.
[/QUOTE]
You know it's funny, I've seen swear words occasionally used even by mods over at QOL :-)
I wonder where you're getting that impression from...
*case in point above
IF QZ had full moderation I wouldn't be able to use the word "asshole" even though it was not used to accost anyone.
[/QUOTE]
You know it's funny, I've seen swear words occasionally used even by mods over at QOL :-)
I wonder where you're getting that impression from...
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
IF QZ had full moderation I wouldn't be able to use the word "asshole" even though it was not used to accost anyone.
[/QUOTE]
Nobody's calling for full moderation. People are calling for *some* moderation.
There is a happy medium between dictatorship and full-out anarchy, you know..
IF QZ had full moderation I wouldn't be able to use the word "asshole" even though it was not used to accost anyone.
[/QUOTE]
Nobody's calling for full moderation. People are calling for *some* moderation.
There is a happy medium between dictatorship and full-out anarchy, you know..
inu-liger
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john bodega
"I voted no
I'm against most censorship especially on this site"
Removing spam isn't censorship. It's called 'not shitting where you eat'.
I'm against most censorship especially on this site"
Removing spam isn't censorship. It's called 'not shitting where you eat'.
Whenihearthatrockandroll
Moderation and tight restriction on all who are not British, I`m fully agree with this!
waunakonor
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
IF QZ had full moderation I wouldn't be able to use the word "asshole" even though it was not used to accost anyone.
[/QUOTE]
Nobody's calling for full moderation. People are calling for *some* moderation.
There is a happy medium between dictatorship and full-out anarchy, you know..[/QUOTE]
While that's true, I think what matt's concerned about is if that gets out of hand. It would start off minimalistic enough, but it might end up getting more strict as time goes on. It's hard to tell
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
IF QZ had full moderation I wouldn't be able to use the word "asshole" even though it was not used to accost anyone.
[/QUOTE]
Nobody's calling for full moderation. People are calling for *some* moderation.
There is a happy medium between dictatorship and full-out anarchy, you know..[/QUOTE]
While that's true, I think what matt's concerned about is if that gets out of hand. It would start off minimalistic enough, but it might end up getting more strict as time goes on. It's hard to tell