Poll: Is it time Queenzone finally implemented moderators?

[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]

While that's true, I think what matt's concerned about is if that gets out of hand. It would start off minimalistic enough, but it might end up getting more strict as time goes on. It's hard to tell[/QUOTE]

Indeed, it might.

But the current situation is definitely already out of hand.

I'd take "might" over "definitely" any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

And today's Sunday.

The "let's be nice to everyone" strategy has been nice, but clearly it doesn't work. If this forum engine cannot ban an IP address, then it's time to start again from scratch.

Ten years or so ago, there was more than one moderator ...

At that time, a Queenzoner (who is currently active on this site) had the audacity to call someone a "cunt". Gasp!!! The vocal majority of Queenzoners were outraged and screamed bloody murder to ban the QZ user who uttered such filth.

... and the moderator heard the plea of the vocal Queenzoners, and succumbed to their demands that this "troll" be permanently banned from Queenzone.

However, there were several level-headed humble Queenzoners that correctly observed that this banning was a cowardly act of censorship. These humble Queenzoners were distraught and beseeched the God of Queenzone to have mercy and reinstate the wrongly banned Queenzoner.

... and the God of Queenzone did heavily sigh and indicated that he would review the matter.

... whence the review was completed the God of Queenzone was confounded and did not understand understand what the big deal was ...

and he did reinstate the unjustly banned Queenzoner, and didst request that Queenzoners no longer get their panties in a bunch over such trivial complaints.

As for the "benefits" of moderation, perhaps one could look at QOL as a model of "proper" moderation. LOL

I have not visited QOL for well over 5 years, but back then QOL moderators too often would have their heads grow three sizes too large, and ban posters at a drop of a hat. Perhaps QOL is not as bad as it used to be ...

As for QZ, if there were new moderators, which Queenzoners would be qualified to administer QZ without getting a big head and abusing their newfound power?

I know I am not qualified ...

I'd be a great moderator. For about 7 minutes. I'd probably get sick of banning MEDUSA and want to take a break from it.

[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]

As for QZ, if there were new moderators, which Queenzoners would be qualified to administer QZ without getting a big head and abusing their newfound power?

I know I am not qualified ...[/QUOTE]

IMO I think either Real Wizard, Gregsynth or Zebonka would make good candidates.

I'm actually surprised at the results of the poll so far... 20 for, 4 against! :-)

[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]

As for QZ, if there were new moderators, which Queenzoners would be qualified to administer QZ without getting a big head and abusing their newfound power?

I know I am not qualified ...[/QUOTE]

IMO I think either Real Wizard, Gregsynth or Zebonka would make good candidates.

I'm actually surprised at the results of the poll so far... 20 for, 4 against! :-)[/QUOTE]

In all fairness. .. I don't think many qzrs view the PERSONAL section.

I barely started reading it a year ago when I got bored.

Its been a dry few months.

This and "gun control" have been good topics. ..but ya rarely find contributors

I would start with a complete overhaul of the board software before I worried about Moderators. But ideally they would do both.

As others have pointed out, Queenzone doesn't need moderators (as I understand the term), it just needs someone to ban obvious trolls, abusive morons and spammers, and for that to be done in a timely manner i.e. not a month after some gimp has crapped all over the forum. However, the owner of this site clearly doesn't want that (otherwise it would've been done already) and as we're all guests here, then we have to respect the owner's views (if indeed s/he has a view and hasn't just abandoned the place). The obvious answer, if you don't like it, is set up your own forum, pay the bills yourself, set your own rules and appoint your own moderators. Then let free market competition decide who is producing the best 'product' -- Queenzone or inu-ligerzone, zebonkazone, etc (actually, that last one sounds like a russian porno site. is it too late to register it? :)

[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]

However, the owner of this site clearly doesn't want that (otherwise it would've been done already) and as we're all guests here, then we have to respect the owner's views (if indeed s/he has a view and hasn't just abandoned the place). The obvious answer, if you don't like it, is set up your own forum, pay the bills yourself, set your own rules and appoint your own moderators.[/QUOTE]

Of course you're technically right, but it's too bad that this situation is a binary equation as such. There should ideally be some gray area between "take it" and "leave it." If only there was better dialogue with everyone involved, this place could be so much better.

"we have to respect the owner's views"

Actually, we don't. It's not in the terms of service and it's not enforced by moderators.

In any case, anyone who's panicking or wailing about censorship in response to the idea of this forum becoming moderated is a bit of a twat. It's already moderated - just very sparingly, and only after weeks of "hey, hey moderator - that guy is back and he's spamming".

No one's suggesting any account deletion that doesn't take place already. I just reckon it'd be better if the cleanups took place slightly more often than they do.

An observation: one of the reasons trolling is such a problem is that Queenzone has changed from being a discussion forum with some trading/sharing to a trading/sharing forum with some discussion. Trolls shit all over the discussion parts of the forum but they don't affect trading. Therefore, trolls etc aren't a priority to those who might be able to take more timely action against them.

Solution? I don't really care that much. Like I said previously, this is the wake not the main event, and entropy is the name of the game.

[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote:[/b]
No one's suggesting any account deletion that doesn't take place already. I just reckon it'd be better if the cleanups took place slightly more often than they do.[/QUOTE]

Indeed, that would be a start.

But as I said earlier, this forum engine (created by the fellow who runs the website) apparently cannot ban IP addresses. So it's a fundamental flaw that we're going to have to live with.

Alternatively, we'll just have to get a life outside of this place.

[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
An observation: one of the reasons trolling is such a problem is that Queenzone has changed from being a discussion forum with some trading/sharing to a trading/sharing forum with some discussion.
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Huh, I actually don't check the trading parts very often, though maybe I should.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
Alternatively, we'll just have to get a life outside of this place.
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NO!

[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
Alternatively, we'll just have to get a life outside of this place.
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NO![/QUOTE]

I knew someone would come to the rescue..

"Alternatively, we'll just have to get a life outside of this place"

Been there, done that! And I didn't miss it. I can't remember why I came back, actually.