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The Fairy King
Pointless speculations!
Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM.
And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?
Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM.
And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?
waunakonor
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
Pointless speculations!
Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM.
And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?
[/QUOTE]
I already talked about that. As you said, these are called "speculations." If they interest you, they're fun to talk about. I'm aware that things would likely be a lot different had Freddie not died. So what? I think it's kind of fun/interesting. If you don't think so, you don't have to participate.
As tomchristie has mentioned on several threads, it's called "Discussion" for a reason. It's not for people to bring up discussion topics so that other people with nothing better to do can shoot them down because they're stupid and pointless.
Pointless speculations!
Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM.
And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?
[/QUOTE]
I already talked about that. As you said, these are called "speculations." If they interest you, they're fun to talk about. I'm aware that things would likely be a lot different had Freddie not died. So what? I think it's kind of fun/interesting. If you don't think so, you don't have to participate.
As tomchristie has mentioned on several threads, it's called "Discussion" for a reason. It's not for people to bring up discussion topics so that other people with nothing better to do can shoot them down because they're stupid and pointless.
The Fairy King
[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
Pointless speculations!
Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM.
And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?
[/QUOTE]
I already talked about that. As you said, these are called "speculations." If they interest you, they're fun to talk about. I'm aware that things would likely be a lot different had Freddie not died. So what? I think it's kind of fun/interesting. If you don't think so, you don't have to participate.
As tomchristie has mentioned on several threads, it's called "Discussion" for a reason. It's not for people to bring up discussion topics so that other people with nothing better to do can shoot them down because they're stupid and pointless.[/QUOTE]
Really?
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
Pointless speculations!
Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM.
And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?
[/QUOTE]
I already talked about that. As you said, these are called "speculations." If they interest you, they're fun to talk about. I'm aware that things would likely be a lot different had Freddie not died. So what? I think it's kind of fun/interesting. If you don't think so, you don't have to participate.
As tomchristie has mentioned on several threads, it's called "Discussion" for a reason. It's not for people to bring up discussion topics so that other people with nothing better to do can shoot them down because they're stupid and pointless.[/QUOTE]
Really?
brENsKi
so what about if Freddie continued to take his meds - and went into remission?
- to an extent where he managed to live a fit and healthy life?
the next queen tour after that could be titled
LIVE AIDS....no hold on? didn't that get taken somewhere else...round about 1985?
but you could have a suitably titled setlist:
LIVE AIDS - QUEEN ON TOUR 1995
dead on time
doing all right
keep yourself alive
now i'm here
another one bites the dust
don't try suicide
death on two legs
hang on in there
i can't live with you
you take my breath away
sheer heart attack
all dead, all dead
let me live
my life has been saved
save me
staying power
it's a hard life
who wants to live forever
the miracle
show must go on
- to an extent where he managed to live a fit and healthy life?
the next queen tour after that could be titled
LIVE AIDS....no hold on? didn't that get taken somewhere else...round about 1985?
but you could have a suitably titled setlist:
LIVE AIDS - QUEEN ON TOUR 1995
dead on time
doing all right
keep yourself alive
now i'm here
another one bites the dust
don't try suicide
death on two legs
hang on in there
i can't live with you
you take my breath away
sheer heart attack
all dead, all dead
let me live
my life has been saved
save me
staying power
it's a hard life
who wants to live forever
the miracle
show must go on
waunakonor
I would totally watch a setlist like that. Sounds amazing.
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
Pointless speculations!
Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM.
And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?
[/QUOTE]
I already talked about that. As you said, these are called "speculations." If they interest you, they're fun to talk about. I'm aware that things would likely be a lot different had Freddie not died. So what? I think it's kind of fun/interesting. If you don't think so, you don't have to participate.
As tomchristie has mentioned on several threads, it's called "Discussion" for a reason. It's not for people to bring up discussion topics so that other people with nothing better to do can shoot them down because they're stupid and pointless.[/QUOTE]
Really?
[/QUOTE]
???
Are you trying to make a point? Saying "Really?" doesn't tell me anything besides that you can't make a real argument by yourself.
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
Pointless speculations!
Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM.
And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?
[/QUOTE]
I already talked about that. As you said, these are called "speculations." If they interest you, they're fun to talk about. I'm aware that things would likely be a lot different had Freddie not died. So what? I think it's kind of fun/interesting. If you don't think so, you don't have to participate.
As tomchristie has mentioned on several threads, it's called "Discussion" for a reason. It's not for people to bring up discussion topics so that other people with nothing better to do can shoot them down because they're stupid and pointless.[/QUOTE]
Really?
[/QUOTE]
???
Are you trying to make a point? Saying "Really?" doesn't tell me anything besides that you can't make a real argument by yourself.
The Fairy King
[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]
I would totally watch a setlist like that. Sounds amazing.
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
Pointless speculations!
Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM.
And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?
[/QUOTE]
I already talked about that. As you said, these are called "speculations." If they interest you, they're fun to talk about. I'm aware that things would likely be a lot different had Freddie not died. So what? I think it's kind of fun/interesting. If you don't think so, you don't have to participate.
As tomchristie has mentioned on several threads, it's called "Discussion" for a reason. It's not for people to bring up discussion topics so that other people with nothing better to do can shoot them down because they're stupid and pointless.[/QUOTE]
Really?
[/QUOTE]
???
Are you trying to make a point? Saying "Really?" doesn't tell me anything besides that you can't make a real argument by yourself.[/QUOTE]
I was disappointed with the fact you're playing the "Discussion" card. Which seems more like a weakness after all the reasons i gave you. And i have to add it's very low to just "disrespect" instead of coming with arguments yourself.
You KNOW it's not fun after so many years of speculations, people come up with the same ridiculous lists.
Honestly, tell me what it adds to this board without the usual "if you don't like it, don't participate." or " it's fun".
I would totally watch a setlist like that. Sounds amazing.
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
Pointless speculations!
Hypothetically: If Freddie hadn't contracted HIV, we don't know the band would be together post-AKOM.
And even if they were, considering a chunk of the tracks are heavily influenced by the fact Freddie was dying, how can we include those tracks in these speculations?
[/QUOTE]
I already talked about that. As you said, these are called "speculations." If they interest you, they're fun to talk about. I'm aware that things would likely be a lot different had Freddie not died. So what? I think it's kind of fun/interesting. If you don't think so, you don't have to participate.
As tomchristie has mentioned on several threads, it's called "Discussion" for a reason. It's not for people to bring up discussion topics so that other people with nothing better to do can shoot them down because they're stupid and pointless.[/QUOTE]
Really?
[/QUOTE]
???
Are you trying to make a point? Saying "Really?" doesn't tell me anything besides that you can't make a real argument by yourself.[/QUOTE]
I was disappointed with the fact you're playing the "Discussion" card. Which seems more like a weakness after all the reasons i gave you. And i have to add it's very low to just "disrespect" instead of coming with arguments yourself.
You KNOW it's not fun after so many years of speculations, people come up with the same ridiculous lists.
Honestly, tell me what it adds to this board without the usual "if you don't like it, don't participate." or " it's fun".
brENsKi
i didn't think my list was ridiculous. thought it had a pointed theme running thru it
The Fairy King
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
i didn't think my list was ridiculous. thought it had a pointed theme running thru it[/QUOTE]
Your list is the exception.
i didn't think my list was ridiculous. thought it had a pointed theme running thru it[/QUOTE]
Your list is the exception.
GratefulFan
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
I was disappointed with the fact you're playing the "Discussion" card. Which seems more like a weakness after all the reasons i gave you. And i have to add it's very low to just "disrespect" instead of coming with arguments yourself.
You KNOW it's not fun after so many years of speculations, people come up with the same ridiculous lists.
Honestly, tell me what it adds to this board without the usual "if you don't like it, don't participate." or " it's fun".
[/QUOTE]
How far would I have to go back to find you starting a discussion in General/Serious? Veterans crapping on newer fans and posters for recycling older discussions without themselves contributing the fabled new and interesting things isn't exactly a sustainable forum model. All this kind of useless complaint does is grind down everybody of any experience level. I really wish people would knock it off. It truly serves no positive purpose and is very destructive. Don't find something interesting? No problem. I hear you. Go be fascinating on some other topic.
I was disappointed with the fact you're playing the "Discussion" card. Which seems more like a weakness after all the reasons i gave you. And i have to add it's very low to just "disrespect" instead of coming with arguments yourself.
You KNOW it's not fun after so many years of speculations, people come up with the same ridiculous lists.
Honestly, tell me what it adds to this board without the usual "if you don't like it, don't participate." or " it's fun".
[/QUOTE]
How far would I have to go back to find you starting a discussion in General/Serious? Veterans crapping on newer fans and posters for recycling older discussions without themselves contributing the fabled new and interesting things isn't exactly a sustainable forum model. All this kind of useless complaint does is grind down everybody of any experience level. I really wish people would knock it off. It truly serves no positive purpose and is very destructive. Don't find something interesting? No problem. I hear you. Go be fascinating on some other topic.
waunakonor
When I first saw this topic, I was going to post a sarcastic sort of response basically saying that this has already been talked about before, and that's what I did. However, after thinking about it for a bit, I thought what if I didn't just go for a stupid cop-out answer and instead put a little thought into it? So I responded again with a somewhat more thoughtful response. I enjoyed thinking about it and discussing it. I don't understand how "It's fun," isn't an acceptable reason for a topic to exist. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Perhaps that means it shouldn't be in "Serious Discussion," but, it really doesn't matter that much.
Like I said, you can say something useful and helpful or you can just go away and not say anything at all. Either way, there's no harm done.
Like I said, you can say something useful and helpful or you can just go away and not say anything at all. Either way, there's no harm done.
The Fairy King
[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
I was disappointed with the fact you're playing the "Discussion" card. Which seems more like a weakness after all the reasons i gave you. And i have to add it's very low to just "disrespect" instead of coming with arguments yourself.
You KNOW it's not fun after so many years of speculations, people come up with the same ridiculous lists.
Honestly, tell me what it adds to this board without the usual "if you don't like it, don't participate." or " it's fun".
[/QUOTE]
How far would I have to go back to find you starting a discussion in General/Serious? Veterans crapping on newer fans and posters for recycling older discussions without themselves contributing the fabled new and interesting things isn't exactly a sustainable forum model. All this kind of useless complaint does is grind down everybody of any experience level. I really wish people would knock it off. It truly serves no positive purpose and is very destructive. Don't find something interesting? No problem. I hear you. Go be fascinating on some other topic.
[/QUOTE]
Great response, but misses the point completely. First of all the topic has been done to death. Second, it's posted in "Serious Discussion".
Now I think a little criticism is fair in this case and besides what's wrong with starting another discussion about this kind of thread? Yes'! I'm playing the "this is a forum card"!
Primary purpose of my bitching: I want to know why we should care for another hypothetical-post-86-tour topic, with people just posting (odd) setlists without any discussion (which i kinda started with my first post, but i digress).
Secondary purpose: Fuck you!
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
I was disappointed with the fact you're playing the "Discussion" card. Which seems more like a weakness after all the reasons i gave you. And i have to add it's very low to just "disrespect" instead of coming with arguments yourself.
You KNOW it's not fun after so many years of speculations, people come up with the same ridiculous lists.
Honestly, tell me what it adds to this board without the usual "if you don't like it, don't participate." or " it's fun".
[/QUOTE]
How far would I have to go back to find you starting a discussion in General/Serious? Veterans crapping on newer fans and posters for recycling older discussions without themselves contributing the fabled new and interesting things isn't exactly a sustainable forum model. All this kind of useless complaint does is grind down everybody of any experience level. I really wish people would knock it off. It truly serves no positive purpose and is very destructive. Don't find something interesting? No problem. I hear you. Go be fascinating on some other topic.
[/QUOTE]
Great response, but misses the point completely. First of all the topic has been done to death. Second, it's posted in "Serious Discussion".
Now I think a little criticism is fair in this case and besides what's wrong with starting another discussion about this kind of thread? Yes'! I'm playing the "this is a forum card"!
Primary purpose of my bitching: I want to know why we should care for another hypothetical-post-86-tour topic, with people just posting (odd) setlists without any discussion (which i kinda started with my first post, but i digress).
Secondary purpose: Fuck you!
The Fairy King
[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]
When I first saw this topic, I was going to post a sarcastic sort of response basically saying that this has already been talked about before, and that's what I did. However, after thinking about it for a bit, I thought what if I didn't just go for a stupid cop-out answer and instead put a little thought into it? So I responded again with a somewhat more thoughtful response. I enjoyed thinking about it and discussing it. I don't understand how "It's fun," isn't an acceptable reason for a topic to exist. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Perhaps that means it shouldn't be in "Serious Discussion," but, it really doesn't matter that much.
Like I said, you can say something useful and helpful or you can just go away and not say anything at all. Either way, there's no harm done.[/QUOTE]
I think the discussion of which songs wouldn't exist if Freddie wasn't dying is far more interesting and refreshing than another thread with random setlists.
When I first saw this topic, I was going to post a sarcastic sort of response basically saying that this has already been talked about before, and that's what I did. However, after thinking about it for a bit, I thought what if I didn't just go for a stupid cop-out answer and instead put a little thought into it? So I responded again with a somewhat more thoughtful response. I enjoyed thinking about it and discussing it. I don't understand how "It's fun," isn't an acceptable reason for a topic to exist. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Perhaps that means it shouldn't be in "Serious Discussion," but, it really doesn't matter that much.
Like I said, you can say something useful and helpful or you can just go away and not say anything at all. Either way, there's no harm done.[/QUOTE]
I think the discussion of which songs wouldn't exist if Freddie wasn't dying is far more interesting and refreshing than another thread with random setlists.
matt z
That time will come. One day you'll see. When we can allllll be friends
matt z
[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]
When I first saw this topic, I was going to post a sarcastic sort of response basically saying that this has already been talked about before, and that's what I did. However, after thinking about it for a bit, I thought what if I didn't just go for a stupid cop-out answer and instead put a little thought into it? So I responded again with a somewhat more thoughtful response. I enjoyed thinking about it and discussing it. I don't understand how "It's fun," isn't an acceptable reason for a topic to exist. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Perhaps that means it shouldn't be in "Serious Discussion," but, it really doesn't matter that much.
Like I said, you can say something useful and helpful or you can just go away and not say anything at all. Either way, there's no harm done.[/QUOTE]
I think the discussion of which songs wouldn't exist if Freddie wasn't dying is far more interesting and refreshing than another thread with random setlists. [/QUOTE]
Although it's SPECULATIVE. .. I think the miracle wouldn't exist. Nor "was it all worth it
Nor the hitman.
Nor bijou (a favorite)
Nor TATDOOL
nor mother love obviously
Possibly not even the show must go on
Nor my life has been saved.
The content of the songs probably wouldn't have occurred to a millionaire band without the hardships
TMLWKY existed from Brian
TATDOOL may have simply been a CROSS or solo track.
Its a hard life may not have either
However HANG ON IN THERE is in the vein of live anthem. May have been there same with much of the miracle (album)
Despite what it was. I believe the band was confident something would happen to change the situation.
Its sad but they were hopeful.
Surprising that a track like mother love was even considered and approached by Freddie.
I'm sure the camaraderie within the band allowed it to be considered. Can't imagine the grief Freddie must have felt contemplating those lines. It may have been his hopeful decision to not relent to it and have NEVER sang those last lines.
All God's people. Despite it being like MAD THE SWINE probably wouldn't have been in their minds
It was the nineties. They might have gone for some lenny kravitz "vintage" flavor or Freddie would have gone towards dance music again
[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]
When I first saw this topic, I was going to post a sarcastic sort of response basically saying that this has already been talked about before, and that's what I did. However, after thinking about it for a bit, I thought what if I didn't just go for a stupid cop-out answer and instead put a little thought into it? So I responded again with a somewhat more thoughtful response. I enjoyed thinking about it and discussing it. I don't understand how "It's fun," isn't an acceptable reason for a topic to exist. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Perhaps that means it shouldn't be in "Serious Discussion," but, it really doesn't matter that much.
Like I said, you can say something useful and helpful or you can just go away and not say anything at all. Either way, there's no harm done.[/QUOTE]
I think the discussion of which songs wouldn't exist if Freddie wasn't dying is far more interesting and refreshing than another thread with random setlists. [/QUOTE]
Although it's SPECULATIVE. .. I think the miracle wouldn't exist. Nor "was it all worth it
Nor the hitman.
Nor bijou (a favorite)
Nor TATDOOL
nor mother love obviously
Possibly not even the show must go on
Nor my life has been saved.
The content of the songs probably wouldn't have occurred to a millionaire band without the hardships
TMLWKY existed from Brian
TATDOOL may have simply been a CROSS or solo track.
Its a hard life may not have either
However HANG ON IN THERE is in the vein of live anthem. May have been there same with much of the miracle (album)
Despite what it was. I believe the band was confident something would happen to change the situation.
Its sad but they were hopeful.
Surprising that a track like mother love was even considered and approached by Freddie.
I'm sure the camaraderie within the band allowed it to be considered. Can't imagine the grief Freddie must have felt contemplating those lines. It may have been his hopeful decision to not relent to it and have NEVER sang those last lines.
All God's people. Despite it being like MAD THE SWINE probably wouldn't have been in their minds
It was the nineties. They might have gone for some lenny kravitz "vintage" flavor or Freddie would have gone towards dance music again