Unless something radical happened in the last 6 years to change his mind, he probably still thinks the Orb graph displays a hiss reduction artefact or a 24 bits format peculiarity.
dysan · Member since
I wonder if The Orb have a golden Queen usb device?
I've just noticed this thread as it was bumped today. As Negative Creep says, the frequency axes have different scales for each release, as their sampling rates are different. It is no surprise that for most of the post 1984 tracks, the high resolution files will be upsampled... Please bear in mind that masters in the early days of digital were DATs @ 44.1 kHz/16-bit.
Same happens with the 96/24 being sold in some music content sites such as 7Digital, e-Onkyo Music (Japan), HDTracks, Onkyo Music, ProStudioMasters, Qobuz, etc. These also include most of Greatest Hits II (with the I Was Born To Love You edit) and Greatest Hits III, parts from Barcelona - Special Edition (triple album set), On Air (double album version) and the Bohemian Rhapsody soundtrack.
aristide1 · Member since
On Air HD tracks are genuine not upsampled, as well as all other analog sourced material.
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So you disagree about the On Air high res release, are you sure it's really not upsampled?
Since Thank God It's Christmas was released on SACD, I gather that should be genuine rather than zero stuffed?
aristide1 · Member since
Upsample means to take a low resolution source and convert it to a high resolution format, without any quality benefit.
The sites that sell HD music (digitally recorded in the 80s at low res) aren't doing anything wrong because they are not maliciously upsample low res recordings to fool people, in fact they don't even have access tho those originals. All they have are remasters done at a higher resolution (by QP in our case) - so the infamous upsamples are in fact REMASTERS presented at the original resolution (of the remaster).
Since the only thing worst than upsample a source is to downsample a remaster (remember that CD contains a downsampled remaster) it is safe to conclude that nothing wrong really happened.
Or nothing good, depending if you are an optimist or a pessimist.
On Air is analogue sourced, hence is genuine HD.
Don't know what do you want to say with Thank God It's Christmas and SACD.
All digitally recorded albums from the 80s have a clear signature on SACD, they are cut above 22kHz.
. · Member since
I guess I am trying to say that I thought Thank God It's Christmas was recorded on analogue tape, but perhaps Wilki can verify if this is the case?
Also, I read somewhere else that On Air (high res) was upsampled.
I will try to source the article.
aristide1 · Member since
Until you will find the article let's see the frequency graph of On Air Hi-Res (track 1). It doesn't look at all upsampled.
Wilki Amieva · Member since
On Air was remastered to 96/24 and this master was used for the HD files. However, most of this release was sourced from a 44.1/16 DATs, so it is definetely upsampled.
EDIT: However, Session 3 from this release was sourced from 48/16 safety DATs, so it is definetely upsampled (and in agreement with my original claim that *part* of On Air was upsampled).
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Thanks Wilki, that does confirm something like I remember reading about DAT sources.
Do you have any info on Thank God It's Christmas master?