john bodega
That Woolwich thing is a bit of a mindfuck, am I wrong?
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inu-liger
Who what? No clue what Woolwich is :)
waunakonor
A quick Google search tells me that Woolwich is a district in London and a terrorist attack happened there recently. Can't tell you anything beyond that.
inu-liger
Oh shit....
pittrek
Some Arabs have murdered a soldier in London in front of a "live audience"
The Real Wizard
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woolwich-attack-horrified-witnesses-tell-1904602
“In our land our women have to see the same.
“You people will never be safe. Remove your governments, they don’t care about you. You think David Cameron is going to get caught in the street when we start busting our guns? You think politicians are going to die?
“No it’s going to be the average guy, like you and your children. So get rid of them. Tell them to bring our troops back so we can all live in peace.”
^ perspective sucks, doesn't it?
Obviously nobody can possibly condone the killings, but is the motivation at least understandable on some level?
People are pissed off with western armies meddling in the affairs of other countries, and innocent people will continue to die for political agendas that have nothing to do with "liberating the people" or whatever the latest mantra is.
“In our land our women have to see the same.
“You people will never be safe. Remove your governments, they don’t care about you. You think David Cameron is going to get caught in the street when we start busting our guns? You think politicians are going to die?
“No it’s going to be the average guy, like you and your children. So get rid of them. Tell them to bring our troops back so we can all live in peace.”
^ perspective sucks, doesn't it?
Obviously nobody can possibly condone the killings, but is the motivation at least understandable on some level?
People are pissed off with western armies meddling in the affairs of other countries, and innocent people will continue to die for political agendas that have nothing to do with "liberating the people" or whatever the latest mantra is.
Holly2003
Considering at least one of the psychos was of Nigerian origin, he can hardly claim that UK troops are murdering "his people" since we don't have any troops in Nigeria. Can I understand his motivation? Yes. He was apparently a Christian who became radicalised by Islamic lunatics and decided to murder an innocent man with a machete, in the street, in front of women and children. His motivation is he's a lunatic, and hopefully he's now dying in agony in hospital.
Bohardy
[QUOTE]
[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] Obviously nobody can possibly condone the killings, but is the motivation at least understandable on some level?
.[/QUOTE]
The motivation to run-over and hack to death in broad daylight and in front of dozens of witnesses an innocent citizen of (seemingly) your own country?
In a word, No.
[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] Obviously nobody can possibly condone the killings, but is the motivation at least understandable on some level?
.[/QUOTE]
The motivation to run-over and hack to death in broad daylight and in front of dozens of witnesses an innocent citizen of (seemingly) your own country?
In a word, No.
thomasquinn 32989
Wow. Me partially agreeing with Holly! This guy is definitely insane. I mean, sticking around and giving interviews after the act? Going berserk against one guy, then being civil to bystanders? This is nuthouse material, definitely.
plumrach
Woolwich in general is a nice area (its where I live) but yesterday was just horrific and I hope we never see that sort of thing again
Penetration_Guru
1000's of posts of you lot (and others) hurling mega-buckets of nit-picking vacuity at each other, and 9 posts about this.
inu-liger
[QUOTE] [b]Penetration_Guru wrote:[/b]
1000's of posts of you lot (and others) hurling mega-buckets of nit-picking vacuity at each other, and 9 posts about this.[/QUOTE]
Sadly it seems to be the fashion to not participate in REAL discussion atm, only shitfests in their place instead.
1000's of posts of you lot (and others) hurling mega-buckets of nit-picking vacuity at each other, and 9 posts about this.[/QUOTE]
Sadly it seems to be the fashion to not participate in REAL discussion atm, only shitfests in their place instead.
magicalfreddiemercury
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
^ perspective sucks, doesn't it?
Obviously nobody can possibly condone the killings, but is the motivation at least understandable on some level?
People are pissed off with western armies meddling in the affairs of other countries, and innocent people will continue to die for political agendas that have nothing to do with "liberating the people" or whatever the latest mantra is. [/QUOTE]
The perspective of foreign policy is naturally narrow in that the beneficiary will always be the country of the policy’s origin – which is as it should be. Problems arise when the policy-makers ignore (or are too arrogant to see or care about) the hatred and/or desperation their policy helps to create. None of that excuses this horrific act, of course. Not in any way. And though revisiting certain policies won’t completely root out the crazies among us, surely some reevaluation of select messages – such as those created by the “war on terror”, for example – is in order.
^ perspective sucks, doesn't it?
Obviously nobody can possibly condone the killings, but is the motivation at least understandable on some level?
People are pissed off with western armies meddling in the affairs of other countries, and innocent people will continue to die for political agendas that have nothing to do with "liberating the people" or whatever the latest mantra is. [/QUOTE]
The perspective of foreign policy is naturally narrow in that the beneficiary will always be the country of the policy’s origin – which is as it should be. Problems arise when the policy-makers ignore (or are too arrogant to see or care about) the hatred and/or desperation their policy helps to create. None of that excuses this horrific act, of course. Not in any way. And though revisiting certain policies won’t completely root out the crazies among us, surely some reevaluation of select messages – such as those created by the “war on terror”, for example – is in order.
catqueen
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
Some Arabs have murdered a soldier in London in front of a "live audience"[/QUOTE]
Don't think he was an Arab though.
Some Arabs have murdered a soldier in London in front of a "live audience"[/QUOTE]
Don't think he was an Arab though.
catqueen
So sad and sick. I can understand anger of people who's countries have been needlessly invaded, but even so, this attack was brutal and crazy. If it was a genuine revenge from a sane person, it wouldn't have been carried out in the same way. A sane person wouldn't have stood around chatting with passers by. So sad though, the poor family of the man who was killed.