Made in Heaven V`s Made in Heaven 2

PD. Brian said that new songs comes before Chritsamas

[QUOTE] [b]bambams-paradise wrote:[/b]

Fortunately, very few of us (myself included) have a single clue as to what they have completely in the archive of material. I think it's kinda funny.to hear the naysayers go on and say there's nothing there to work with. Give the band a chance ffs to let them do what they do, and then judge the work. Let the music do the talking before everyone starts bitching about what they think isn't there or worth hearing.[/QUOTE]

I agree finally postive attitude

A new life is born i can see people are starting to agree this could be the title and opener/reprise track.

[QUOTE] [b]bambams-paradise wrote:[/b]
Fortunately, very few of us (myself included) have a single clue as to what they have completely in the archive of material. I think it's kinda funny.to hear the naysayers go on and say there's nothing there to work with. Give the band a chance ffs to let them do what they do, and then judge the work. Let the music do the talking before everyone starts bitching about what they think isn't there or worth hearing.[/QUOTE]

If they had recorded a decent amount of extra songs we would definitely know about it, just like Bruce Springsteen fans always knew that the songs that appeared on his albums were only the tip of the iceberg. But Queen didn't work that way, I think Freddie even said in some Miracle era promo interview that their method was that when they had enough demos for album that could be turned into good songs, they worked on those and let everything else be: they didn't have interest to make tons of additional songs (like Springsteen did). So all else that there is, is merely sketches of songs, skeletons without a finished vocal take from Freddie or even two verses of any kind.

If there were additional songs that could be finished in any meaningful way - and good songs to boot, something that could be singles in the line of previous Queen singles - they wouldn't have forgotten about them and those songs would have popped up a long time ago. But all that we know from fan conventions and Greg Brooks is bare ideas of songs, short things with minimal lyrics, basically Freddie doodling some gibberish and the others improvising as well.

And we have all read lots of books and interviews about Queen and there is no record of a single occasion when they put aside a worthy and completed song, shelved it because it didn't fit on an album thematically or whatever.

What they are now saying is that they have 1-2 songs they are working with, a Michael Jackson thing and something else, and they are apparently trying to form an album around those.

[QUOTE] [b]Queen1973 wrote:[/b]
A new life is born i can see people are starting to agree this could be the title and opener/reprise track.[/QUOTE]

Please, what an absurd concept - not only was that song sketch already used as the intro to Breakthru, but a "new life" for a band whose singer has been dead for well over 20 years and whose two remaining white-haired members are both half way into grave, and whose new artificial studio album consists solely of ancient demos and reworkings of as old solo material? It's ridiculous.

I'm not saying that old demos shouldn't be released at all, but as I said the right approach is to put them out in an anthology of archive material. There is probably a few, at most 3 Queen demos with decent vocal takes from Freddie that could be finished - well they should finish those and release them in the box along with the demos of same songs, it would be interesting and produce the final odd finished Queen song.

Mmmk...20 years worth of work. With Freddie...think about it. Do you remember everything you did 20 years ago? All I'm saying is that they may have just said stuff like this to keep the public at bay until they properly researched everything. Even then, all the old tapes may not have been gone through. Who knows? I don't, and I sure won't speculate...I'm interested in hearing what they do, and honestly it may blow some minds. It may not. Let's just be patient and again, let the music do the talking! :)

Truly there is no harm in having Brian and Roger work on what ever material is worthy, polish it up, add parts as necessary, produce and release it...

Alternatively...they could do absolutely nothing and never let us hear any of it........or just put it out 'as is' unmixed, unproduced and say it was a demo and we would just be wishing they could have done something with it.

So yeah..I'm all for Brian and Roger working on the tracks and putting out some quality material for us...

Not to mention there could be some gems in there that no one on here has heard...or better versions than what they let get out on the web and you don't always need 3 minutes of vocals to make a song...think Bijou, Nevermore, A beautiful Day, You Don't Fool Me, Mother Love, etc...

Agreed! ^

TMLWKY was recorded for The Miracle but never released. We only know this because it subsequently found itself on Made in Heaven. There's nothing to say that with 13 studio albums to choose from (discounting MIH and assuming there's nothing of note on Flash Gordon) there aren't other songs that were cut in a similar way, somehow unfinished or unreleased.

After all, if TMLWKY didn't make it onto the final album we'd likely have as much evidence to suggest that could exist as a viable future track with Freddie's vocals as any of these yet to be known songs they're working on now.

I think a good example would be Sheer Heart Attack. If Queen had split in 1976, we would have said 'any songs they didn't pick for the album are obviously of not good enough standard', however on News of the World, we get treated to a track which was written (possibly demo recorded?) years before.

So i think it's definitely possible that there are good tracks out there which didn't fit the them of the album, or maybe one band member already had a certain amount of songs on the album and they tried to even it up. I think there's tracks out there, whether they are good enough for an album. I don't know, I'm not sure.

There might well be quite a bit of stuff to come out. If the objective has been to keep Freddie and Queen's name as well circulated as possible, well with the musical We Will Rock You and now the QE thing, it may be that there has been no need to release any more of the stuff than has already been released up to this point. I mean, there's only a finite amount of stuff left because Freddie's gone, so maybe they are just hanging on to what's left quite tightly until they perceive the need to release it truly exists.

My feeling is that the current album was really only (?being) put together to promote Freddie's music to the world again before the movie about him comes out. I mean with Michael Jackson there to help as a promiotional vehicle, things couldn't be much better for re-engaging the world, especially the US! But with Sasha Baron Cohen pulling the plug, that will lead to a delay in the release of the movie and therefore might also to a a delay in the release of the much mooted album, So it may be that we will have to wait for some time yet. Hope not, but I'm sure plenty of strategic planning goes into the different release dates for stuff to maximise exposure for the band, and that has clearly irritated many of the hard core fans.

'We Are the Champions' had also been written by the time of ANATO, so if Queen'd split up in 1976, then we would've missed that one, and it doesn't mean it wasn't up to standard.