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musicland munich
David Richards is a good source. I have this article/Interview from late 1995 with the German Rolling Stone Magazine. The header means something like "When angels sing"
I am too lazy for a complete translation...maybe I will do a rough translation over the weekend.
It is mainly about "Made in heaven" and how it was produced .
One statement from D.Richards " Freddie worked about one month on that MIH Album" ( rough content - wise)
I am too lazy for a complete translation...maybe I will do a rough translation over the weekend.
It is mainly about "Made in heaven" and how it was produced .
One statement from D.Richards " Freddie worked about one month on that MIH Album" ( rough content - wise)
rhyeking
There are several David Richards sources (interviews, etc.) where he says that and it seems he's referring to the May 1991 sessions. The only other sessions in 1991 took place from the second week of January and lasted at most until the end of the month, as on February 1st, Brian and Roger flew to the States to promote the Innuendo album. The January session resulted in "Lost Opportunity" and *possibly* one or more of the MIH tracks started (if I had to guess, I'd say "A Winter's Tale," as it was Freddie's last song written solely by himself and was a complete vocal recording, a full song, and it was winter in Montreux, so maybe that inspired him. Just a guess, though).
Part of putting The Queen Chronology book together was to try to answer a lot of these questions, the whens and wheres of Queen/solo recording. I found when I started putting dates in order for my own notes (which is how the Chronology began) I started seeing these details and the large picture became somewhat clearer.
Part of putting The Queen Chronology book together was to try to answer a lot of these questions, the whens and wheres of Queen/solo recording. I found when I started putting dates in order for my own notes (which is how the Chronology began) I started seeing these details and the large picture became somewhat clearer.
musicland munich
[QUOTE] [b]rhyeking wrote:[/b]
..., and it was winter in Montreux, so maybe that inspired him. Just a guess, though).
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It`s true :) David Richards said this in that interview too( content-wise)..
..., and it was winter in Montreux, so maybe that inspired him. Just a guess, though).
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It`s true :) David Richards said this in that interview too( content-wise)..
mooghead
Congratulations!!!!!! You have won the one millionth 'Last Song Freddie Recorded' post!!!! To collect your prize go to the nearest cliff... and jump off it!
Have a nice day now :-)
Have a nice day now :-)
matt z
[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]
Congratulations!!!!!! You have won the one millionth 'Last Song Freddie Recorded' post!!!! To collect your prize go to the nearest cliff... and jump off it!
Have a nice day now :-)[/QUOTE]
Yes. It's been done a million times before but they were being friendly and cordial. The question was answered without much bullshit.
At least until moog.
Unless a foreword is given prior to posts stating that many topics have already been discussed and new members are SUGGESTED to look those up. ... then well (!)
It's just a fact that new members are going to ask these questions. For the sake of the site post a link to discussion threads. Otherwise it tends to get bilous and vitriolic.
Congratulations!!!!!! You have won the one millionth 'Last Song Freddie Recorded' post!!!! To collect your prize go to the nearest cliff... and jump off it!
Have a nice day now :-)[/QUOTE]
Yes. It's been done a million times before but they were being friendly and cordial. The question was answered without much bullshit.
At least until moog.
Unless a foreword is given prior to posts stating that many topics have already been discussed and new members are SUGGESTED to look those up. ... then well (!)
It's just a fact that new members are going to ask these questions. For the sake of the site post a link to discussion threads. Otherwise it tends to get bilous and vitriolic.
Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]rhyeking wrote:[/b]The Cross scheduled a promo and live tour for Sept. and Oct.[/QUOTE]
Freddie could go and record his vocals and/or keyboards without Roger being present. It happened a lot anyway.
[QUOTE] [b]rhyeking wrote:[/b]The Summer 1991 Fan Club magazine (released late June/early July) explicitly states that Queen had no further plans to return to the studio that year following their recent session work.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but plans and decisions change: remember 'Another Miracle'? The anthology? The whole 'no more Queen without Freddie'? The summer 1975 American tour? Opening 'Queen II' with SSOR? Including TMLWKY on 'The Miracle'? Playing in Uruguay in 1983? A second solo album by Freddie? ADatR in DTS 5.1 Surround? Xmas Eve '75 officially released? Rainbow? The intro lyrics on All Dead All Dead? 'Man on Fire' on The Works?
[QUOTE] [b]rhyeking wrote:[/b]Roger Taylor's October letter to the Autumn 1991 Fan Club magazine says Queen recorded 4 tracks earlier in the year.[/QUOTE]
Which doesn't eliminate the possibility of either more tracks being done after that, or new ideas being added (e.g., a new verse) after that.
[QUOTE] [b]rhyeking wrote:[/b]All of this, along with things like Brian working on his solo album, working with Cozy and doing things like Guitar Legends, tells me Queen did nothing together as a band in the studio after May 1991[/QUOTE]
But that doesn't mean Freddie couldn't go to the studio on his own (well, with his entourage) and work on his bits. Queen, even as early as 1974, were long past the 'we all have to be together for every recording session' habit.
[QUOTE] [b]rhyeking wrote:[/b]nor that Freddie recorded anything in the studio after May 1991.[/QUOTE]
Actually, there are quite a few sources claiming the opposite. It wasn't necessarily something usable, it wasn't necessarily something 'new', and it didn't necessarily feature the other Queen members, but there has been some studio activity described.
Freddie could go and record his vocals and/or keyboards without Roger being present. It happened a lot anyway.
[QUOTE] [b]rhyeking wrote:[/b]The Summer 1991 Fan Club magazine (released late June/early July) explicitly states that Queen had no further plans to return to the studio that year following their recent session work.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but plans and decisions change: remember 'Another Miracle'? The anthology? The whole 'no more Queen without Freddie'? The summer 1975 American tour? Opening 'Queen II' with SSOR? Including TMLWKY on 'The Miracle'? Playing in Uruguay in 1983? A second solo album by Freddie? ADatR in DTS 5.1 Surround? Xmas Eve '75 officially released? Rainbow? The intro lyrics on All Dead All Dead? 'Man on Fire' on The Works?
[QUOTE] [b]rhyeking wrote:[/b]Roger Taylor's October letter to the Autumn 1991 Fan Club magazine says Queen recorded 4 tracks earlier in the year.[/QUOTE]
Which doesn't eliminate the possibility of either more tracks being done after that, or new ideas being added (e.g., a new verse) after that.
[QUOTE] [b]rhyeking wrote:[/b]All of this, along with things like Brian working on his solo album, working with Cozy and doing things like Guitar Legends, tells me Queen did nothing together as a band in the studio after May 1991[/QUOTE]
But that doesn't mean Freddie couldn't go to the studio on his own (well, with his entourage) and work on his bits. Queen, even as early as 1974, were long past the 'we all have to be together for every recording session' habit.
[QUOTE] [b]rhyeking wrote:[/b]nor that Freddie recorded anything in the studio after May 1991.[/QUOTE]
Actually, there are quite a few sources claiming the opposite. It wasn't necessarily something usable, it wasn't necessarily something 'new', and it didn't necessarily feature the other Queen members, but there has been some studio activity described.
Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]bambams-paradise wrote:[/b]I really suppose David Richards would be the best person to ask, mainy because, well...he was their cheif producer at the time! [/QUOTE]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJLm_x9ZWBk
[QUOTE] [b]bambams-paradise wrote:[/b]if they were lying about anything, what purpose would it serve? [/QUOTE]
Fuelling a legend and making things more romantic and spectacular. It happens all the time in show business and it happened a lot with Queen and especially Freddie. Saying that Bo Rhap was like the 400th video ever, was played four times by Kenny Everett on his radio programme, took a couple of weeks to record and featured about twenty simultaneous vocal overdubs is far closer to the truth than 'first video ever, Kenny played it fourteen times, it took bloody ages to record and has 180 vocal overdubs', but it sounds way less impressive. For some extent, fans still want to hear the 'legend', the same way loads of young kids see their parents as flawless superheroes and would never accept a suggestion to the contrary.
[QUOTE] [b]bambams-paradise wrote:[/b]In terms of 'Mother Love' sounding spliced (read the post but don't remember who said it...sorry!), Brian did say they did 3 takes of every line that Freddie sang, so certainly the vocal track that we have all come to know and love could indeed be a frankenstein in terms of take 1, take 3 on this line, etc.[/QUOTE]
Actually, that happened a lot, with or without Freddie being ill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJLm_x9ZWBk
[QUOTE] [b]bambams-paradise wrote:[/b]if they were lying about anything, what purpose would it serve? [/QUOTE]
Fuelling a legend and making things more romantic and spectacular. It happens all the time in show business and it happened a lot with Queen and especially Freddie. Saying that Bo Rhap was like the 400th video ever, was played four times by Kenny Everett on his radio programme, took a couple of weeks to record and featured about twenty simultaneous vocal overdubs is far closer to the truth than 'first video ever, Kenny played it fourteen times, it took bloody ages to record and has 180 vocal overdubs', but it sounds way less impressive. For some extent, fans still want to hear the 'legend', the same way loads of young kids see their parents as flawless superheroes and would never accept a suggestion to the contrary.
[QUOTE] [b]bambams-paradise wrote:[/b]In terms of 'Mother Love' sounding spliced (read the post but don't remember who said it...sorry!), Brian did say they did 3 takes of every line that Freddie sang, so certainly the vocal track that we have all come to know and love could indeed be a frankenstein in terms of take 1, take 3 on this line, etc.[/QUOTE]
Actually, that happened a lot, with or without Freddie being ill.
TheGame
I will just repeat what i wrote in a previous topic.
Freddie left Montreux 10.th november. Thats all the fact we know for sure (atleast according to Freestone).
David Richard mentioned that Freddie didnt behave very sick in the last session ( he did mention that the only "strange" behaviour was that he had to sit down instead of standing when singing). If thats correct, then im sure the last session wasnt in November or even maybe October ( thats just my thoughts though).
Didnt David also say that they did 2/6 weeks sessions ( 2 weeks in studio and 6 weeks off?). If thats correct, then why does someone mention january and may as the only sessions in 1991?
Im not looking for any conclusion as i think thats not possible given the information we have.
Freddie left Montreux 10.th november. Thats all the fact we know for sure (atleast according to Freestone).
David Richard mentioned that Freddie didnt behave very sick in the last session ( he did mention that the only "strange" behaviour was that he had to sit down instead of standing when singing). If thats correct, then im sure the last session wasnt in November or even maybe October ( thats just my thoughts though).
Didnt David also say that they did 2/6 weeks sessions ( 2 weeks in studio and 6 weeks off?). If thats correct, then why does someone mention january and may as the only sessions in 1991?
Im not looking for any conclusion as i think thats not possible given the information we have.
Sebastian
AFAIK, those diseases aren't necessarily linear in the person's deterioration: some days they'll feel better, some days they'll feel worse, with the 'worse' instances becoming gradually more frequent.
Freddie could've easily felt better for a couple of days in November, recorded something (usable or not) and then flown home.
Freddie could've easily felt better for a couple of days in November, recorded something (usable or not) and then flown home.
Queenman!!
[QUOTE] [b]TheGame wrote:[/b]
I will just repeat what i wrote in a previous topic.
Freddie left Montreux 10.th november. Thats all the fact we know for sure (atleast according to Freestone).
David Richard mentioned that Freddie didnt behave very sick in the last session ( he did mention that the only "strange" behaviour was that he had to sit down instead of standing when singing). If thats correct, then im sure the last session wasnt in November or even maybe October ( thats just my thoughts though).
Didnt David also say that they did 2/6 weeks sessions ( 2 weeks in studio and 6 weeks off?). If thats correct, then why does someone mention january and may as the only sessions in 1991?
Im not looking for any conclusion as i think thats not possible given the information we have. [/QUOTE]
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The sitting down came due too the leisson under Freddie;s right foot which he struggles with since feb 1991
I will just repeat what i wrote in a previous topic.
Freddie left Montreux 10.th november. Thats all the fact we know for sure (atleast according to Freestone).
David Richard mentioned that Freddie didnt behave very sick in the last session ( he did mention that the only "strange" behaviour was that he had to sit down instead of standing when singing). If thats correct, then im sure the last session wasnt in November or even maybe October ( thats just my thoughts though).
Didnt David also say that they did 2/6 weeks sessions ( 2 weeks in studio and 6 weeks off?). If thats correct, then why does someone mention january and may as the only sessions in 1991?
Im not looking for any conclusion as i think thats not possible given the information we have. [/QUOTE]
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The sitting down came due too the leisson under Freddie;s right foot which he struggles with since feb 1991
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]TheGame wrote:[/b]
Freddie left Montreux 10.th november. Thats all the fact we know for sure (atleast according to Freestone).
[/QUOTE]
There's no way Mercury would have been well enough to fly on an airplane two weeks before his death.
I call revisionist history on this one.
Freddie left Montreux 10.th november. Thats all the fact we know for sure (atleast according to Freestone).
[/QUOTE]
There's no way Mercury would have been well enough to fly on an airplane two weeks before his death.
I call revisionist history on this one.
on my way up
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]TheGame wrote:[/b]
Freddie left Montreux 10.th november. Thats all the fact we know for sure (atleast according to Freestone).
[/QUOTE]
There's no way Mercury would have been well enough to fly on an airplane two weeks before his death.
I call revisionist history on this one.[/QUOTE]
That's what I thought too but Freestone has said it on several occasions...His story is that Freddie stopped his medication, flew back home and died shortly afterwards.
[QUOTE] [b]TheGame wrote:[/b]
Freddie left Montreux 10.th november. Thats all the fact we know for sure (atleast according to Freestone).
[/QUOTE]
There's no way Mercury would have been well enough to fly on an airplane two weeks before his death.
I call revisionist history on this one.[/QUOTE]
That's what I thought too but Freestone has said it on several occasions...His story is that Freddie stopped his medication, flew back home and died shortly afterwards.
M-train
I wonder why Freddie would have stopped his medication? Was the side effects getting to be too much, was he tired of being sick, and just said f**k it, or just figured it wasn't doing much good anyways?
musicland munich
[QUOTE] [b]on my way up wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]TheGame wrote:[/b]
Freddie left Montreux 10.th november. Thats all the fact we know for sure (atleast according to Freestone).
[/QUOTE]
There's no way Mercury would have been well enough to fly on an airplane two weeks before his death.
I call revisionist history on this one.[/QUOTE]
That's what I thought too but Freestone has said it on several occasions...His story is that Freddie stopped his medication, flew back home and died shortly afterwards.
[/QUOTE]
Jim Hutton statement in his Book Mercury and Me supports that 10 th November date.
He is going more specific. He( Freddie) was so sick that he didn`t get checked by the border patrol with the regular people.
So he wasn`t in public.
And of course they hired a private jet...a picture for example. freddie / Hamilton on a private Jet in 1989
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]TheGame wrote:[/b]
Freddie left Montreux 10.th november. Thats all the fact we know for sure (atleast according to Freestone).
[/QUOTE]
There's no way Mercury would have been well enough to fly on an airplane two weeks before his death.
I call revisionist history on this one.[/QUOTE]
That's what I thought too but Freestone has said it on several occasions...His story is that Freddie stopped his medication, flew back home and died shortly afterwards.
[/QUOTE]
Jim Hutton statement in his Book Mercury and Me supports that 10 th November date.
He is going more specific. He( Freddie) was so sick that he didn`t get checked by the border patrol with the regular people.
So he wasn`t in public.
And of course they hired a private jet...a picture for example. freddie / Hamilton on a private Jet in 1989