Made in Heaven 2!

Brian mentioned in his last interview [b]" ...we're sort of thinking Made In Heaven 2 in a sense, although it wouldn't be called that". [/b]
Is there any sense to wait for this album,or is it's only plans that as always remain only plans?

It won't happen, let's all just look forward to the ballad album with hopefully one or two unused outtakes on it and Roger giving us fun on earth. We can forget the Jacko tracks as well, sounds like his estate are playing hardball for cash !!!

[QUOTE] [b]andyb1968 wrote:[/b]

It won't happen, let's all just look forward to the ballad album with hopefully one or two unused outtakes on it and Roger giving us fun on earth. We can forget the Jacko tracks as well, sounds like his estate are playing hardball for cash !!![/QUOTE]

How do you know this?

Brian did say Michael's estate as well as Freddie's estate...so that means Freddie's estate is going to give them a hard time too?

Let's think about this for a second...

Roger has said in an interview that the Jacko estate won't allow the finished tracks to be released, and these tracks have been floating around many years while Jacko was alive and he never gave permission for a release, it all boils down to money, I'd much rather hear Brian, Roger and John finish those Queen demos, and Freddie' s demos from his anthology, a quality album from that lot.

That's pure speculation, the guys have made mention of these tracks recently because there is a clear intention to push on and release them. This may of course be prevented by Jacksons estate but I have a feeling they will see the light of day in a finished state in the next few months. With regards to the Roger interview when he states Wacko's estate wont allow the release, is that not an older interview? I've heard no mention of that recently, if anything it sounds a lot more positive of late.
Let's all just see what happens, we might just be pleasantly suprised

http://www.contactmusic.com/story/roger-taylor-urges-michael-jackson-executors-to-speed-up-duets-release_3882321

Queen rocker Roger Taylor blames the executors of Michael Jackson's estate for a four-year delay in the release of the Thriller star's secret duets with Freddie Mercury.
The existence of several unreleased collaborations between the two pop icons was revealed by the band's guitarist, Brian May, in 2009, days after Jackson died from an overdose of anaesthetic.
Taylor and May worked together to finish the incomplete tracks and they are hoping the songs will be released later this year (13), but Taylor blames those in charge of Jackson's estate for holding up the project.
He tells Mojo magazine, "Freddie and Michael never finished the songs, because Queen had to leave L.A. to go on tour. Brian and I have worked on them, which means they'll come out as Queen and Michael Jackson - hopefully... if the Michael Jackson estate can get its a**e into gear."

With the Jackson family trying to Rip AEG apart to the tune of 1.5 billion dollars, it's clear to see what their mind set is.

Nothing that Queen release with Jackos voice on it would make any where near that kind of money, and being as they really need the money, don't they, I can't see them agreeing to anything that isn't gonna make them at least half a billion!

If only someone who has good contact (or know personally) Roger would tell him that dropping duets in the name of reworking solo version of TMBMTLTT (it could be a hit nowadays, it is one of the most underrated Queen songs as it started as Queen project as you know) and other nearly finished or completely finished but rejected songs would be better not only for us, fans but also for Queen Prod. as "unheard" songs with Freddie's vocal could bring more attention to the back catalogue which means more money for RT, BM and JD. It all depends whether promotional campaign will be planned correctly and it doesn't mean only tracks with FM's vocals. Wouldn't it be interesting to hear some rejected (if existing) RT and BM tracks from 70's or 80's ?? |||| If MJ's estate is only looking for more money, then 3 tracks won't get them the sum they need as Vocal harmony stated above.

It's obvious that money's they reason for the hold up, but it isn't that obvious who's the problem.

We're looking at three songs where the writing credits and original performance are split 50/50 between Freddie and Michael, and now Brian and Roger are looking for their "fair" share of the potential profits.

[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]

With the Jackson family trying to Rip AEG apart to the tune of 1.5 billion dollars, it's clear to see what their mind set is.

Nothing that Queen release with Jackos voice on it would make any where near that kind of money, and being as they really need the money, don't they, I can't see them agreeing to anything that isn't gonna make them at least half a billion![/QUOTE]

Directly: Katherine Jackson and MICHAEL'S three children. However infer whatever you wish.

They DO have a credible claim. For anyone who bothers to READ the topics, agreements, emails and witness accounts; AEG severely overlooked problems and deliberately contradicted and lied about the warning signs, production requests for psychological evaluations and signs of nervous system damage (hot/cold sides of his body) and it is clear that aeg commanded and demanded that Conrad Murray (a man going through divorce/disclosure and $500, 000) in debt do anything to get their performer to rehearsal (despite claims of inability)

Emails conclude that they indicated "remind Mr Murray who is paying his expenses" when he kept Michael from rehearsal on one occasion

Agreeing to pay a doctor $150, 000 per month should have been a red light.

Also Murrays requests for heart monitoring equipment defibrillator etc.

Nevermind that Paul gongaware also worked with Elvis prior to his death and instructed murrsy to "don't be a dr Nick" (Elvis s doctor who basically prescribed the guy to death)

Nevermind that ppl stood to gain much from Michael s death etc

It's a convoluted mess (mj fired those same ppl now his executors before-albeit possibly for financial reasons) but it is a legitimate claim

as for the MUSIC

SEVERAL great songs have been held back due to the executors. One that had a great traditional arrangement by burt Bacharach and others like "blue gangster", "12 o'clock" (featuring longtime collaborator Steve Lukather from TOTO) as well as others heard/unheard that really eclipsed the sampled crap they compiled and filled "MICHAEL" (posthumous album #1) with.


If you MIH detractors thought Brian and Rogers handling of FM tracks was bad then listen to those on 2010's MICHAEL. THAT'S how you crap on a legacy. Compression, over mixing and trying to "modernize" songs done well before


I hope they receive a release. Even if they don't. Some intrepid soul will rip them and Leak them anyways

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[b]matt z wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]

[/QUOTE] If you MIH detractors thought Brian and Rogers handling of FM tracks was bad then listen to those on 2010's MICHAEL. THAT'S how you crap on a legacy. Compression, over mixing and trying to "modernize" songs done well before

I hope they receive a release. Even if they don't. Some intrepid soul will rip them and Leak them anyways[/QUOTE]

Indeed. And fan base is divided because this album made a controversy. Breaking News, Monster, Keep Your Head Up - these songs don't sound anything like Michael and are believed to be recorded by Jason Malachi, with MJ bits and a couple of words being sampled and processed in here and there. Reason for that is goat-like vibrato, different pronunciation, lack of vocal deepness that Jackson had in later years and overall feeling that something sounds very off. They are supposed to have been recorded at Cascio house about a year or two before Jackson's death. Most fans believe they are fake, few believe they are legit and this discussion is going on since 2010 and probably will never stop. To this day it is one of the biggest topics on Jackson fan boards.
This is not how you handle one's legacy, in comparison to MIH this is utter shit. In my opinion MIH is how a perfect posthomus album should be, of course there could be more previously unheard tracks on it but that's only complaint from my side.
Oh yeah, and crap looking jumbo screen sourced VHS copy DVD release of a Wembley concert in 1988. Queen's Wembley in comparison actually has great visuals, and I never thought I would say that :P

Yeah. I hear u.

Keep your head up sounds partially legit but I think there was a mixing tactic to leave his vocals obscured. The shoutsc being sampled from various other takes from EARTH SONG.

Tacky stuff.

I'm grateful for the Wembley dvd even though it IS tape sourced. Allegedly it was the only extant thing. When I bought the collectors edition bad I had already heard most of the various oddities and had a complete bad tour programme. (I mean the $40 set not the obscenely priced $300 set)

It was a rough mix copy from Michaels library according to sources. Seeing how it sold for like $8 as a stand alone I find no problem with that.


The audio is great. If queen productions did something similar with available low fidelity live recordings they might easily have tons of live videos in the top 40.

(But all indications suggest they won't)


Even a song like "for all time" got the crap treatment with modified vocals where nothing was clear to begin with (possibly some synthesized retouching of two audio clips to meet a given frequency range)

Jackson's tour musical director already was given privileged access to alternate recordings to substitute for mjs voice as a live v substitute until "he got back into the shape of things" hence the rabid fans who have b theories about mj being alive

Best example funeral ceremony version of WILL YOU BE THERE. ... changes pain to "pains" (present tense)

The production company knew something shaky as going on but didn't allow hesitation.

My Take on the v tracks

Breaking news: few sampled rambles of Michael, inserted with odd third person stuff. Cheasily put together and cash in on his death (create some hype about his death)

Monster. .. same thing. Chorus is not him "too bad..." sounds nothing like him

Sounds like a lot was filtered to sound generationally deteriorated so that the fake stuff would SONICALLY blend in with the rest.

They've taken a shit on his legacy. Even broadcast spike lees GREAT documentary which is well over two hours as a 45 minute fan video. (I saw it in its theatrical run at graumanns Chinese theatre in Hollywood) it is a great MUSIC documentary. Had it been broadcast as such it would have met universal acclaim

I'm glad queen productions hasn't stooped nearly as low
(Except for the bonus tracks that would have probably fit on most SINGLE queen cds and the current "widescreen botch jobs" of the videos. .... inability to b produce a dvd containing innuendo tracks etc. .


It just begged for an alternate release of INNUENDO. ... u know. .. something monumenTal to thrill the fans and send queens last PROPER record back into onto the charts


Might even throw in some unused copies of the cosmos rocks as collectors coasters

If the Jackson's dont allow a official release Queen should decide to leak them, sending a USB stick with the songs to a Queen fanclub or something like that.

[QUOTE] [b]gooddrills wrote:[/b]

That's pure speculation, the guys have made mention of these tracks recently because there is a clear intention to push on and release them.
Let's all just see what happens, we might just be pleasantly suprised[/QUOTE]

hahahahahahahahaha

kidding right?

"making mention" of something can also be (and in QPL's case usually is) a decoy - used to attract attention to some other "pile of cack rehash" that they're intending to flog