Queen - Brian May Disappointed By John Deacon's Movie Snub

Bohemian wrote: To be honest john was devastated when freddie passed away and he like the rest of us knows Queen is not Queen without good old fred.

Really? Please point me to the evidence that JD was 'devastated'. I've read a lot of things in forums over the years along these lines but I've never, ever, seen anything which substantiates these claims.

We all know that JD is a private person and perhaps he was significantly affected, but this is just speculation on our part (and in someways hopeful speculation as it implies they were on close terms).

Evidence please?

dagi

To be honest John was devastated when freddie passed away.

Proof please.

and he like the rest of us knows Queen is not Queen without good old fred.

You. me and millions of others, yes. Millions of others, Queen is a brand and they don't agree with us.


No matter what May and Taylor do, it will simply not be the same ever again.

Agreed.

Queen have turned into there own pathetic tribute show
now taking Adam Lambert on tour so maybe john deacon is annoyed with that as well.

Maybe.

i know i certainly am.

If you weren't in the band your opinion is meaningless.

Queen died the night freddie did, end of.

Debatable, but you are probably not going to get tons of argument here.

All you fools waste your money going to see lambert
but it wont be the same regal atmosphere when freddie was
around!

Agreed, but it's their money and if you can't see the real deal, if you want to see 50% of the band members playing what represents 30% of Queen stood for spend that money.


Most people on this thread feel the same as me, about the terrible things Brian May and Roger Taylor have done in the last 20 years or so concerning Queen.

Lots, yes. Most, debateable.

The worst and unforgivable is working with Lambo freak
and now Brian wants to take the little toe rag on tour,
which insults me as an ardent Queen fan of 39 years.

He's a shadow of Freddie, but B & R are happy to get out and sing Queen songs. It sullies their legacy but pretty sure you are and I are not on their radar for what insults them.

For god sakes Bri, drop the piss takes and concentrate on real Queen projects instead of pulling Queens impressive 40 years career through the mud, your making us Queen fans very ashamed and a standing joke among the rock elite!

Yes!!! But he doesn't give a fuck!

I for one will never buy an album with lamberts voice on it, so please Bri do not insult us Queenies.

Some people will. I hate the idea of Adam Lambert singing Queen songs but Brian doesn't care. Don't buy it.

i have more respect for Deacon because he had respect for Freddie an left Queen, Bri & Rog are now scraping the bottom of the barrel. With regards to releases in the past 20 years, well they have been very poor, not like Beatles fans who get what they want!

The Beatles are artists. Queen are a brand. They fucked it up with all of the emphasis on sales. Zeppelin and The Beatles have their legacy sealed as artists and their legacy hasn't diminished in the years sinc the death of a band member. Queen's profile has increased, but their creative rep has suffered immensely since Freddie's death. IMHO.

At least Deacy is loyal to Freddie, and Brian thinks he is the leader of Queen now by doing what he wants and destroying Queens legacy by touring with Adam FREAK Lambert. i have been a Queen fan since 1974 but refuse to support them now with Lambert.
Queen 1971 -1991 i will always support and thats it.

Just want to say to that stupid person on here
Queen is not a brand they are respected artists
just like Zeppelin, stones, beatles etc.....
They appear in the rock and roll hall of fame,
and a brand could never do that!
secondly just because Bri puts out an album like the cosmos rocks under the name of Queen, does not make it a Queen album, its just a marketing trick to make money.
Queen were 4 men and freddie founded the name.
how could it be a real Queen album with just 2 original
members and with paul rodgers and a session musician who plays bass as there is no John Deacon.
Its all to do with money at the end of the day as Bri & Roger
knows anything with the name Queen will get the attention.

I have always agreed with the sentiment that a Queen album isn't really a Queen album without Freddie or John. But that's just sentiment. Whilst the others survive, they are free to use the name they were a part of, and do. Yes, using the name is a marketing ploy, but it's still their name to use. Whilst they do, anything they put out will be a "Queen" album. We can think what we want, and be as sentimental as we want, but they really are just a brand now, and business is business. I think this old argument is now becoming very clouded as some of the points are crossing over and getting way mixed up.

you have to love old Deacy cos he is the most sensible of the 3 surviving members of Queen.
i would love to know what he thinks about adam lambert
bumming Queen where ever they go nowadays?
probably pretty disgusted like us all.

DAGI: john Deacon made the decision to leave Queen after the Freddie Tribute shows,
it was reported in the sun i think where Deacon said he couldnt continue working in the business
without Freddie and that Queen wouldnt be the same again without Freddie.
John had an enormous respect for Freddie, and he did go into a bad state of depression
after Freddie passed away.
i think he did 2 more things before quitting Queen, which where working on the single "only the good die young"
and on "Made in Heaven" album.
Also read his responce to paul Rodgers joining Queen, which was "oh my god"!

[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]

DAGI: john Deacon made the decision to leave Queen after the Freddie Tribute shows,
it was reported in the sun i think where Deacon said he couldnt continue working in the business
without Freddie and that Queen wouldnt be the same again without Freddie.

Also read his responce to paul Rodgers joining Queen, which was "oh my god"![/QUOTE]

Gerry - while i'd like to agree with you on this - you do make it extremely difficult:
1. using "i think" shows that you don't even know the exact quote or source
2. saying it came from The Sun is tantamount to relegating it to nothing more than playground gossip. After all, you're using your citation of truth as being the same "newspaper" that hacked celebs' mobile phones and invaded Freddie's privacy when he was dying.
3. You should name your source for the JD (Paul Rodgers) quote - unless it's The Sun again
4. Strange how YOUR own Freddie principles go out the window when you need to use the Filth peddlers (the Sun) as a source

There's still the question of all those "old unfinished" queen demos...I've started a thread elsewhere on this - go have a look Gerry, i'd be interested in your views :-)

[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
...Brian thinks he is the leader of Queen...[/QUOTE]

Brian and Roger created Queen in 1970(? correct me if I'm off). Like it or not, they have the right to do whatever they want with it.

[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
...Brian thinks he is the leader of Queen...[/QUOTE]

Well, someone has to be. Preferably someone who isn't dead. If John is retired and Roger is focused on his solo career at the moment, who does that leave?

Seriously, get a hobby or something. You're so bitterly angry about this, almost as if it's something that personally affects you.

JD kinda reminds me of Ex Slade frontman Noddy Holder.

Noddy absolutely refuses any kind of ties with his old band mates as far as any new projects, or reunions are concerned.