The Doctor talks about You Don't Fool Me, again

I personally think Spanish Disco sounding "You Don't Fool Me" is bollocks. I prefer 'The Everlasting' by the Manics and that song still brings a tear to my eye knowing what it is all about and how middle eastern someone can become whilst pretending to be welsh.

Whoever played the acoustic guitar on YDFM is probably Freddie on a Spanish holiday circa 1980 whilst stoned with swans in chimney tops (from the Winter's Tale) as a distraction, whilst he checks out some Spanish guitar disco style from a mile away.

Chow for now

So what's the one Manic Street Preachers album to go for ?

It depends on what you want to listen to and what you are after?

The only thing the Manics taught me was to design a verse line and then intentionally sing it down to the next line during the same phrase, like poetry.

Interesting.

When first checking out an artist I want something that's simply accessible. Good songwriting that can connect without me having to do a lot of work as a listener. That can come later if I like what comes first, y'know?

The Mars Volta discography, Antony and the Johnson's second album, Suede first two albums, Rufus Wainwright I&II, Downward Spiral and The Fragile from NIN, Mezazzine from Massive Attack, Dirt's Alice In Chains, Soundgarden's Superkunknown....some masterpieces in my opinion. The problem is the mainstream is not as used to be. Mainstream in other decades mixed bad music with good music.

Well, today's mainstream does include Adele, Mumford and Sons, King of Leon and Muse ... so it it's not all bad !

Ugh, can't stand Adele. Her songs are so-so to OK, but I hate her voice, it's very grating.

My favorite Manics album still is This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours, with A Design For Life being a close second.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

Well, today's mainstream does include Adele, Mumford and Sons, King of Leon and Muse ... so it it's not all bad !
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How dare you not mention Fleet Foxes :P

For Manics album to start at, why not get the best of album "Forever Delayed".
It will give you a flavour of the first 1/2 of their career.
The most accessible album is probably "Everything must go" the album that made them a stadium act.
However most fans (and me) like "The holy bible", but it's not exactly easy listening.

[QUOTE] [b]Pim Derks wrote:[/b]

My favorite Manics album still is This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours, with A Design For Life being a close second.[/QUOTE]

Cool, thanks Pim ... I'll give it a listen.

I have worked with either James Dean-Bradfield or a double agent of him in London in EC1Y about 10 years ago.

In my eyes he is middle eastern and not welsh. Perhaps this has something to do with the Welsh adopting more international accents going forward.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

Amazing stuff.
Btw, I just noticed something in the song I haven't caught in 17 years of listening to this record..

There are backing vocals of a slower "you don't fool me" that start at 4:34. Am I the only one to miss it? There's just so much else going on that I never caught it until now.

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I cannot imagine I did not hear it before but after reading this from you I now heard it too. Maybe because I was now focusing on it.

[QUOTE] [b]dragonfly.trumpeter wrote:[/b]

I have worked with either James Dean-Bradfield or a double agent of him in London in EC1Y about 10 years ago.

In my eyes he is middle eastern and not welsh. Perhaps this has something to do with the Welsh adopting more international accents going forward.



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JDB has a very strange skin colour for a Welshman (met him many times after Manics gigs, knows me by now :P), even Freddie was lighter skinned than him. I'm Asian myself but Freddie passes for a caucasian quite well (must be all that skin whitening cream...)

"There are backing vocals of a slower "you don't fool me" that start at 4:34."

You never noticed that?! Damn son!

The most recent 'hey I never noticed that' moment I had with Queen owes to the Mother Love exhibit in Montreux. I never noticed it but at the end the line "to make me feel my life is headed somewhere" - as he tails off of 'somewhere' there's a tiny vocal trill where the melody goes up. Sublime stuff, never really heard it until the vocal was exposed.