Queen’s Brian May Looked to Freddie Mercury For Inspiration During Health S
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Vocal harmony · Member since
Blending Rock and Opera had been done many times before Freddie did it. What ever he wrote he needed the skill, as musicians, of the rest of the band to perform.
Yes people liked Freddie more when he was doing rock opera songs. Well by the end of the 70's he had largely stopped doing that.
Mr Bad Guy was Freddie messing around with disco/ funk. The whole album wasn't disco or funk. And if like you say he was messing around with that style, he had already done that with Queen and, by most measures of word, failed.
Face facts Queen were a band, not a bunch of backing musos playing to the will of a genius composer like Frank Zappa. They all wrote. If you think it was all about the singles, then you've sunk yourself there too. John Deacon sold more and achieved more with Bites The Dust than most of what Freddie wrote. Add to that I want to Break Free, Rogers Radio GaGa and WWRY the only other hit that most people will recognize as missing is Bo,rhap.
That gives Freddie one song in the really big hitters.
One other thing, most of the Queen sound was/is in BM's playing and song writing.
gerry · Member since
Vocal Harmony: Freddie put the anchors down for Queen with the greatest single ever written in Bohemian Rhapsody,
john Deacon was a very talented song writer but again, he did not come in to his own till the 80s.
Freddie was not a one big hitter as you put it.
Freddie wrote most of the bands work on albums, where roger and bri may have had 2 songs each and deacon did not appear until
A night at the operas "Your my best friend".
A disagree with you when you say Deacons "Another one bites the dust "
sold more than "Bohemian Rhapsody" though as it considered the greatest song ever written in the history of popular music.
Freddie went back to the rock/opera style with "All gods people" from innuendo.
brENsKi · Member since
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[b]gerry wrote: [/b] Freddie wrote most of the bands work on albums, where roger and bri may have had 2 songs each and deacon did not appear until
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never let "YOUR TRUTH" get in the way of the facts eh?
here's some genuine facts for you - up until the point where songs started getting co credited to "queen" rather than individual writers:
[b]Freddie 50¼ songs Brian 46½ songs[/b]
certainly not the "2 an album" crap you spout is it?
Mike G · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
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[b]gerry wrote: [/b] Freddie wrote most of the bands work on albums, where roger and bri may have had 2 songs each and deacon did not appear until
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never let "YOUR TRUTH" get in the way of the facts eh?
here's some genuine facts for you - up until the point where songs started getting co credited to "queen" rather than individual writers:
[b]Freddie 50¼ songs
Brian 46½ songs[/b]
certainly not the "2 an album" crap you spout is it?[/QUOTE] Only idiots think Freddie was Queen, Brian May was a huge part of the band....almost Equal of Importance....Roger and john didn't have the overall impact of Freddie and Brian but they were very good as well.
gerry · Member since
Brenski: Take a look at the songs on Queen and Queen2.
At this early stage Freddie always had the most songs on a Queen album.
As the albums continued the same set up carried on but with john Deacon
contributing when they got as far as "A night at the opera"
Brian and Roger still had 2 to 3 songs each on every new Queen album,
with Freddie always having the most output.
Yes only idiots think freddie was Queen, but they were all equal in fans eyes.
TomP63 · Member since
Gerry, sure Freddie wrote the most songs for Queen and Queen II, but still he needed the band, the chaps around him to get the songs recorded, performed. And not only the band, there was more than the band alone, Mike Stone, Roy Thomas Baker, to name a few. Gerry, have you ever seen Queen Live, not on DVD or video of on YouTube, but live. if so, what did you see, hear? The Freddie Mercury Band, or a band called Queen?
Give it a chance mate, try and see it the other way round. Brian and Roger still performing, still bringing the well know songs, the so-much loved songs to a new generation. An other generation than ours. If so that all Lambert fans have bought the tickets, what does this tell you. It tells me that there is a market, a demand.
Tom
gerry · Member since
Tom: yes i have see Queen live 6 times and yes i appreciate Brian, Roger and john are there and in no way did i say
Freddie was the man, i said to "Brenski" that Freddie was the main song writer in the band when they first had a few albums out.
i respect Brian and Roger are still out there but its not the same is it?
Adam Lambert fans probably are not bothered what he sings on stage as long as they see him live.
yes there is a market but only for Adam Lambert so it seems.
All of the ardent Queen fans have like me dropped out now 2 Queen members are missing.
You cant drive a car with half an engine!
TomP63 · Member since
Gerry, yes I agree with you it isn't the same as it use to be. But it isn't the same since 1991. Maybe I'm missing the big picture here Gerry, but I can't see why it is so wrong for May/Taylor to perform? I can't see the issue why it is wrong for them to use the name Queen, they perform Queen songs, don't they? In some way I believe that they are doing Queen's legacy justice. The Queen (music) legacy is still strong. It can't be the case that it is just Freddie's legacy? It seems to me that it is more a matter of what if questions? What if May/Taylor had moved on under their own name, as a duo, and they continued to play Queen tracks, would that caused a stir?
gerry · Member since
TOM: Theres nothing wrong at all with Brian & Roger performing but why do they keep sticking with lambert for?
Surely he should be left to get on with his own career.
I always wanted Brian and Roger to make an album with Paul McCartney because it would be perfect
and they would not be selling them selves short like they are with Lambert.
Other mega artists do not want to entertain Lambert so why should Queen??
It would be better for May and Taylor to go on the road together to let new fans see them but with lambert they are not doing themselves any favours
and lambert is getting a free ride.
TomP63 · Member since
Gerry, I'll give up. I do understand your point of view, honestly I do. I think you're a nice bloke, and a real Queen fan, a die hard. Maybe we can start another discussion, maybe talk about the band heydays, or the concerts you saw. I get it now, you don't have nothing, or anything with Adam Lambert, and that is fine by me, we do live in a free world.
Keep yourself alive......
Tom
gerry · Member since
Tom; your the nicest guy i have spoken to on here as everyone else comes across
as dense, but its refreshing that you "get me" as most on here only have one cell
in there head!
Yes lets change the topic.
On the subject of Queen live i have seen them at Newcastle city hall in 79
Birmingham NEC84 Leeds elland road football ground 82, Newcastle st james footie ground 86.
I got very close to the stage in 86 and it was the closest i have ever seen freddie and brian,
i was stunned from start to finish.
Freddie even nicked a coppers helmet from the side of the stage too, hilarious.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b] Freddie wrote most of the bands work on albums, where roger and bri may have had 2 songs each and deacon did not appear until
[b]brENsKi wrote: [/b]never let "YOUR TRUTH" get in the way of the facts eh? here's some genuine facts for you - up until the point where songs started getting co credited to "queen" rather than individual writers: [b]Freddie 50¼ songs Brian 46½ songs [/b] certainly not the "2 an album" crap you spout is it?
[b]gerry wrote: [/b] Brenski: Take a look at the songs on Queen and Queen2. At this early stage Freddie always had the most songs on a Queen album. As the albums continued the same set up carried on but with john Deacon contributing when they got as far as "A night at the opera" Brian and Roger still had 2 to 3 songs each on every new Queen album, with Freddie always having the most output. Yes only idiots think freddie was Queen, but they were all equal in fans eyes. [/QUOTE]
For your benefit I've pasted in BOTH posts relative to your latest reply (above). I have to ask - where do YOU get these shit "facts" from? from Queen I - to AKOM the writers' credits were as i stated above - 50¼ / 46½ in favour of freddie - that's an average of 4.19 for FM and 3.9 for BM.
In case YOUR desperate mind needs more facts here's the writing credits up until Queen started co-crediting the whole band:
queen 1 - FM 5, BM 3½ queen II - FM 6, BM 4 sha - FM 6¼, BM 4¼ opera - FM 5, BM 5 races - FM 4, BM 4 notw - FM 3, BM 4 jazz - FM 5, BM4 game - FM 3, BM 3 flash - FM 4½, BM7 HS - FM 3.7, BM 3.2 works - FM 3½, BM 3 akom - FM 2, BM 2
Honestly, where on earth do you get your crap from? is it from the darkest recesses of your twisted mind. Don't argue with the above unless you have cast iron bona-fide facts and NOT your inane rambled imaginings. I'm 100% sure you'll twist your bizarre argument off onto another tangent, now you've been proven wrong again. You're really starting to look like an insufferable prick now - but WHEN has that previously stopped you?
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
Tom; your the nicest guy i have spoken to on here as everyone else comes across
as dense, but its refreshing that you "get me" as most on here only have one cell
in there head!
And in that comment Gerry's problem is crystalized for all to see. We either agree with him or we are all cast as dense. No matter who we are or what we do.
It's good to know in this society of free speech Gerry has the only opinion that is allowed or matters. In this world of choice be sure not to exercise that freedom of choice because Gerry has spoken
gerry · Member since
Brenski, you type a load of shit too m8.
"A Night at the opera" has 5 songs written by freddie and 4 by brian, where you said 5.
get your facts straight before spouting off dick head.
Vocal harmony, i dont give a toss what you think of me sunshine, so do one.
TomP63 · Member since
gerry wrote:
Tom; your the nicest guy i have spoken to on here as everyone else comes across
as dense, but its refreshing that you "get me" as most on here only have one cell
in there head!
And in that comment Gerry's problem is crystalized for all to see. We either agree with him or we are all cast as dense. No matter who we are or what we do.
It's good to know in this society of free speech Gerry has the only opinion that is allowed or matters. In this world of choice be sure not to exercise that freedom of choice because Gerry has spoken....
Well Vocal Harmony, I can tell you, I disagree with Gerry's point that everyone comes across as dense. Since I'm Dutch I'm trying hard to figure out what Gerry means with dense. But I for one had made my point clear reagarding Brian and Roger teaming up with Adam Lambert. I've followed this thread, I've read good built comments from you, as always from Brenski and Bob. I've tried to give my opinion, my thoughts, I never ever will use strong language as I think is is pointless and makes the excact point someone is making less valid.