Queen’s Brian May Looked to Freddie Mercury For Inspiration During Health S
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Vocal harmony · Member since
There you go again. . .
There are plenty of Queen fans buying tickets too. Do you think that it was only Queen fans or Paul Rodgers fans who bought tickets when he was fronting the band. Or was it fans of both artists?
You need to go back and re read your rants, in the past, about Adam Lambert.you made it very clear what you thought of him.
A debate is a debate, it isn't standing on a soap box calling people names or saying they've only go one brain cell because they have a view that doesn't match yours. If you're being shot down it's because you have made yourself an easy target because of the fact that you won't except there is more than one view.
Just for the record, since you mentioned it earlier, I have never said I like AL or that I want him in the band. What I said was, I think he suits what they do more than PR. The atmosphere created at Hammersmith felt far more like a Queen show than any of the PR shows. I've also said it's up to BM and RT who they choose to work with. And I'd rather see them play live with someone than not play
gerry · Member since
ok im sorry for been bitchy im not all bad l.o.l
i know we all have our own views on certain matters, but i grew up with Freddie from 8 years of age
so yeah i do feel very bitter that the band i loved has gone and turned into a group with a reality singer
what a kick in the teeth for Mercurys fans.
As far as im concerned and feel, its not the same Queen group which made my spine tingle every time i saw them live.
im just really angry and i guess ive fired all the bullets at some of the guys on here cos i feel betrayed and hurt
that lambert is getting all the attention over Freddie.
Even Brian has turned hard faced and so has Roger, when he said in a magazine "its time to forget about Freddie now, life moves on"
how awful was that! Its like get a new hoover and sod the old one!
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
yes all the tickets will go to the american idol / Xfactor crowds but real Queen fans will be forgotton about because its all about Lambert.[/QUOTE]
I guess I'm not a real Queen fan then, despite the fact that a) I have never watched a whole episode of Idol in my life, and b) I run one of the most popular Queen websites on the internet.
Or - could it be possible that there are more than two ways to think here !?? Hmm..
[QUOTE]Im trying to get a good debate going here[/QUOTE]
You're failing miserably because you dismiss all views that do not match your own. You have spent 7 pages of this thread attacking people because they disagree with you, not encouraging a healthy exchange of ideas.
[QUOTE]Are you a Queen fan? Or like me a passionate Queen fan, there is a difference you know.[/QUOTE]
You choose to equate "passionate Queen fan" with "people who think like you." Once again, your binary thinking rules the day. Do you even know what binary means? It means your brain can only see two possible ways of thinking - your way, and every other way (which you choose to interpret as one lump sum of "the wrong way"). For the sake of all the people you encounter in your daily life - please work on that.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
im just really angry and i guess ive fired all the bullets at some of the guys on here cos i feel betrayed and hurt that lambert is getting all the attention over Freddie.
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Betrayed and hurt ? Reality check - they're a rock band playing a few gigs, not your wife shagging your brother behind your back.
Brian and Roger are musicians. They want to play. If Freddie is dead, they need someone who can sing for 2 hours a night. It doesn't mean they (or anyone) is disrespecting Freddie. They're the first people to say Freddie can't be replaced... from day one they have said you cannot replace the irreplaceable. Why can you not understand this basic line of thinking?
You chose not to see Brian and Roger potentially for the last time. If this doesn't somehow affect you, then you may actually be more of a Freddie fan than a Queen fan. Half of Queen is still better than no Queen in a LOT of people's eyes. If not yours, then that's fine. If you think watching an old DVD is better than seeing two members of Queen live, then great. Nobody's telling you that there's something wrong with you if that's your choice. So stop with the sanctimonious crap, insisting that everyone who doesn't agree with you is somehow not as "loyal" a fan as you are. If anything, they're MORE of a Queen fan because they still want to see two members of Queen while you're content to sit at home living in the past.
I stopped following Dream Theater after Mike Portnoy left the band. Other people didn't. They're the real fans for sticking with the band, not me. I'm not somehow more of a Dream Theater fan because I jumped ship out of loyalty to Portnoy. This just means I'm a fan of Portnoy era Dream Theater, full stop. I don't like where their music is going, but I'm smart enough not to try and convince people that the true Dream Theater ended in 2009. It's clearly still going on, just with a different lineup.
People feel strongly about Yes going on without Jon Anderson, but their frustrations are actually justified. Yes chose to hire a singer from a Yes tribute band while Anderson recovered from almost dying of acute respiratory failure. But I still went to the shows because I love Steve Howe and Chris Squire, and the music as a whole. I didn't spent one second lamenting the fact that Anderson wasn't there. I chose to appreciate what I did have.
And I'll be doing the same when I see Queen with Adam.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
Even Brian has turned hard faced and so has Roger, when he said in a magazine "its time to forget about Freddie now, life moves on"[/QUOTE]
Show me the quote. It sounds like you're paraphrasing poorly. They are far more diplomatic (and respectful to Freddie) than that.
gerry · Member since
Real wizard: Reality check to you, this charade with lambert is more than a few concerts
its been going on for quite some time now.
Next we have the terrible album with lambert, how low can Queen go???
The Queen machine is well and truly over and i am one of many who will not waste
money on see half a group in concert, i am more sensible with my money than most.
i think i am very justified with many of my comments on here and i would make a great journalist for
a music magazine!
Everyone to there own ok.
Never realised you were in to boy band pop drivel.
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
and i would make a great journalist for a music magazine!
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Ha ha ha ha. 15 words says YOU wouldn't make a great "journo" - of ANY description.
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gerry · Member since
BRENSKI: Now who is been nasty! There is no law in which i have to write queens english on here,
its only a thread for gods sake, lighten up man.
i am not bothered what you may think of me, as i have every right to be me, and express what i think.
so if you do not like that then you have the problem.
Grow up you are very childish.
brENsKi · Member since
Gerry
You made the claim that you'd make a good journo. I made an observation based on that claim - a light-hearted one.
Don't think I need to "lighten up" you're the one being aggressive.
You could redeem things a little by admitting you said "Bri" and not "John" wrote "two songs per album".
You shouldn't accuse people of bullying you, when you cast the first stones.
Anyhow, i'll let bygones be bygones. Now it'd be nice if you'd care to respond to the other thread you posted in where you've said things about Queen's treatment of the fans, and I've addressed each of your points in turn (several days ago).
It'd be interesting to see how you might respond.
TomP63 · Member since
Brenski, I admire your stamina, as you can see, i have stopped posting reagarding this subject a few days ago. Sir Gerry seems to me a nice guy, but on this subject he's suffering with one track mind.
Tom
gerry · Member since
TOM: Thanks for saying i am a nice guy that is much appreciated.
yes i have got a one track mind especially on this subject just like Brian May has on badger culling, well i have on adam lambert fronting Queen.
It does not mean i am simple or loosing the plot like many on here have said, it just means i am a passionate man defending Freddie who is not here to defend himself.
I have high standards with my music and i am not easily pleased like most on here.
Nothing wrong with having high standards.
Brian i like a record repeating himself about the badgers well i am the same regarding Adam Lambert, i just do not get it or why Queen waste there time on this pointless tour.
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
TOM: Thanks for saying i am a nice guy that is much appreciated.
yes i have got a one track mind especially on this subject just like Brian May has on badger culling, well i have on adam lambert fronting Queen.
It does not mean i am simple or loosing the plot like many on here have said, it just means i am a passionate man defending Freddie who is not here to defend himself.
I have high standards with my music and i am not easily pleased like most on here.
Nothing wrong with having high standards.
Brian i like a record repeating himself about the badgers well i am the same regarding Adam Lambert, i just do not get it or why Queen waste there time on this pointless tour.[/QUOTE]
Vocal harmony · Member since
Gerry this isn't a pointless tour.
If like you've said only AL fans buy tickets, then Queens music, the music Freddie helped create will reach an new audience who wouldn't have otherwise heard any of it.
Younger fans who did get a chance to see the band in the day will have a chance to experience something of what a Queen show was like in the day. No it won't be the same, but as good as the DVD's are, the excitement and atmosphere a good live band creates is better then sitting at home watching a TV
Some older fans enjoy gigs, and in some cases enjoy seeing and hearing the bands they loved in the day. Yes lineups change, so it is never quite the same but it's the closest in a live setting it's possible to get to how it used to be
Is it disrespectful to Freddie. I don't think it is. It's keeping the music alive for people to enjoy. They haven't rerecorded the albums with a replacement singer. The songs will always be there for people to enjoy. BM and RT spent a lot of years avoiding doing any shows on this scale under the Queen name despite being told by Elton John they should go out there and do something
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
Now who is been nasty! There is no law in which i have to write queens english on here,
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True, but obviously you don't understand that the ability to demonstrate basic grammatical skills gives people the impression that you a) are intelligent and b) could possibly be a "journalist for a music magazine." Combined with your inability to see a situation beyond your own opinion, you are literally the last person on this forum who should be a writer on any subject, never mind music.
[QUOTE]yes i have got a one track mind especially on this subject just like Brian May has on badger culling, well i have on adam lambert fronting Queen.
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The difference between you and Brian here is that Brian is armed with FACTS. Scientific facts via observational data that withstood peer review. You, on the other hand, have a superiority complex where you think you're better than other people because you didn't go to a rock concert.
Do you know what peer review means? Do you know the difference between fact and opinion?