[b]marc.s wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Mike G wrote:[/b]
Scandel is one of my favorites on that album, but instead of the pop sounds of the 80's it should have been heavier...Heavier guitars instead of the synths...[/QUOTE] hi mike do you mean synths on Scandal or in general?
I thought the main riff on Scandal was the red special not synth, somebody correct me if I'm wrong I'd be interested to find out.
[/QUOTE] Hi marc.s. I think Scandal's main riff is a blend between May's guitar and synths/keyboards. According to wikipedia May recorded the keyboards and guitars in one take.
In the Scandal 12' version ( wich by the way is AWESOME) you can hear the synths without the guitar at 1:00 [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3fRWx22nWI] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3fRWx22nWI[/url]
A heavier mix of the song(more guitar -les synths), here :[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI1v5cAWYs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI1v5cAWYs[/url]
malicedoom · Member since
Another vote (no, TEN VOTES) for Scandal.
That is such a great song. And the 12" version is my favorite 12" mix of all-time from ANY band.
marc.s · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Stelios wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]marc.s wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Mike G wrote:[/b]
Scandel is one of my favorites on that album, but instead of the pop sounds of the 80's it should have been heavier...Heavier guitars instead of the synths...[/QUOTE] hi mike do you mean synths on Scandal or in general?
I thought the main riff on Scandal was the red special not synth, somebody correct me if I'm wrong I'd be interested to find out.
[/QUOTE] Hi marc.s. I think Scandal's main riff is a blend between May's guitar and synths/keyboards. According to wikipedia May recorded the keyboards and guitars in one take.
In the Scandal 12' version ( wich by the way is AWESOME) you can hear the synths without the guitar at 1:00 [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3fRWx22nWI] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3fRWx22nWI[/url]
A heavier mix of the song(more guitar -les synths), here :[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI1v5cAWYs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI1v5cAWYs[/url][/QUOTE] ah interesting Stelios just dug out the 12 inch. I hadn't listened to it in quite a while but yeah that must be the best 12 inch mix they did. Oh and I'm in China so my youtube isn't currently going through I'll check when I can ;)
marc.s · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]malicedoom wrote:[/b]
Another vote (no, TEN VOTES) for Scandal.
That is such a great song. And the 12" version is my favorite 12" mix of all-time from ANY band.[/QUOTE] as I just said to Stelios you're right it's awesome.
Mike G · Member since
Vocally one of Freddie's best
jtownsen · Member since
March of the Black Queen for his range...
"Put them in the cellar with the naughty boys
A little nigger sugar then a rub-a dub-a baby oil"
marc.s · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Stelios wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]marc.s wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Mike G wrote:[/b]
Scandel is one of my favorites on that album, but instead of the pop sounds of the 80's it should have been heavier...Heavier guitars instead of the synths...[/QUOTE] hi mike do you mean synths on Scandal or in general?
I thought the main riff on Scandal was the red special not synth, somebody correct me if I'm wrong I'd be interested to find out.
[/QUOTE] Hi marc.s. I think Scandal's main riff is a blend between May's guitar and synths/keyboards. According to wikipedia May recorded the keyboards and guitars in one take.
In the Scandal 12' version ( wich by the way is AWESOME) you can hear the synths without the guitar at 1:00 [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3fRWx22nWI] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3fRWx22nWI[/url]
A heavier mix of the song(more guitar -les synths), here :[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI1v5cAWYs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI1v5cAWYs[/url][/QUOTE] excellent
ZBGM0 · Member since
For me best vocal performance is without any doubt “How can I go on” (not original, but alternative version) and “Show must go on” close second - best high note (D5) ever recorded from Freddie. Yes, there are also higher notes in other songs but they don’t sound so powerful like D5 in SMGO.
I know there are many amazing studio vocal performances from Freddie in the 70s BUT in the 70s he didn’t have power that he had in the 80s. If I have to pick the best studio vocal performance from 70s it would be The prophet’s song.
I personally believe his best vocals were in 87/88 after he stopped touring. Even Mike Moran said his voice started to get much better when recording Barcelona. There are probably three reasons for that:
- Touring was over, so his voice was able to recover
- He knew he had AIDS/HIV, so he knew that he had only max. few years left. So he decided to do his best/everything he can for his music in the last few years. He was more focused than ever. Consequently he didn’t party anymore like before, his life style was suddenly different. With other words he started to take care for his voice like never before (Also Mike Moran claims this).
- Although this was never stated officially, I assume that Montserrat Caballe gave him few very good tips how to sing better. After all, she was the best femal singer in the world at this particular time. It would be weird not to give him any good advice.
P.S.:
People give too much credits for range and “which note he hits”. The most important is the QUALITY of the pitch/tone that he produces, not which notes he hits. There are millions of singers who can sing C5 but they will sounds like crap because they don’t have power/resonance. Why was Pavarotti one of the best operatic tenors? Because he could hit high C? NO, simply because he had best RESONANCE/power.
And I believe Freddie had best resonance in 87/88. There is only one live recording which has probably the lowest quality but it is enough to hear his Bb4 in In My Defence, the note was very sweet, rich, colorful and resonate – completely different voice than his mid 80s.
Same thing is with pianos, the longer the strings/sound board, the better the tone of the instrument. For example Steve Perry and Adam L. can both sing higher notes than Freddie but they have shorter strings and smaller sound board, therefore the voice is weaker then Freddie’s (if you consider Freddie Dec 79. Newcastle, Live Aid 85, and period 87-90).
Martin Packer · Member since
Scandal shows just what can happen when Brian writes and performs from the heart. And in that one Freddie nails the vocal with his own emotion (or confects the emotion if it really isn't there - as was (IMHO spuriously) said about his version of TMLWKY).
marc.s · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]ZBGM0 wrote:[/b]
For me best vocal performance is without any doubt “How can I go on” (not original, but alternative version) and “Show must go on” close second - best high note (D5) ever recorded from Freddie. Yes, there are also higher notes in other songs but they don’t sound so powerful like D5 in SMGO.
I know there are many amazing studio vocal performances from Freddie in the 70s BUT in the 70s he didn’t have power that he had in the 80s. If I have to pick the best studio vocal performance from 70s it would be The prophet’s song.
I personally believe his best vocals were in 87/88 after he stopped touring. Even Mike Moran said his voice started to get much better when recording Barcelona. There are probably three reasons for that:
- Touring was over, so his voice was able to recover
- He knew he had AIDS/HIV, so he knew that he had only max. few years left. So he decided to do his best/everything he can for his music in the last few years. He was more focused than ever. Consequently he didn’t party anymore like before, his life style was suddenly different. With other words he started to take care for his voice like never before (Also Mike Moran claims this).
- Although this was never stated officially, I assume that Montserrat Caballe gave him few very good tips how to sing better. After all, she was the best femal singer in the world at this particular time. It would be weird not to give him any good advice.
P.S.:
People give too much credits for range and “which note he hits”. The most important is the QUALITY of the pitch/tone that he produces, not which notes he hits. There are millions of singers who can sing C5 but they will sounds like crap because they don’t have power/resonance. Why was Pavarotti one of the best operatic tenors? Because he could hit high C? NO, simply because he had best RESONANCE/power.
And I believe Freddie had best resonance in 87/88. There is only one live recording which has probably the lowest quality but it is enough to hear his Bb4 in In My Defence, the note was very sweet, rich, colorful and resonate – completely different voice than his mid 80s.
Same thing is with pianos, the longer the strings/sound board, the better the tone of the instrument. For example Steve Perry and Adam L. can both sing higher notes than Freddie but they have shorter strings and smaller sound board, therefore the voice is weaker then Freddie’s (if you consider Freddie Dec 79. Newcastle, Live Aid 85, and period 87-90).
[/QUOTE] hey guide me home/ how can I can on alternate is mine too as I stated before.
It's a masterclass of vocals IMO and Barcelona album as a whole has some of his very best performances.
Also in the eighties both Hot Space, and Mr Bad Guy have awesome vocals regardless of whether one rates the albums or not IMO. I happen to like them both ;)
ZBGM0 · Member since
Yes, I believe Barcelona has one of the best vocals. No doubt about it.
In 70s he had sweet, “oiled”, crystal clear voice in the upper register (F4-B4), but he lacked power. In 80s he lost a little bit of “clear” voice in upper register but he gained extreme power in the middle register (C4-G4). I personally haven’t heard any pop/rock singer with such a powerful voice in middle register.
Example is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laIY-uauGgY
his vocal at Wembley was in a bad shape, but at 0:37 he holds G4 with such a power. I haven’t heard any of pop/rock singer who can produce more powerful G4 than this example - if somebody knows someone, I would like to hear (post a link) :) this is one of the reasons that separates Freddie from other singers. Other singers will normally have “hollow” or thin, dry, screaming, weaker, lighter, less colorful, less resonate, less richer fuller tone, less powerfull … voice compared to him. It really was the tone that he produced and not the range. I can hit C5 but it will sound worse than a dying cat.
In the 87/88 he had both – crystal clear voice and power. Combination of both is heard on Barcelona album.
And yes marc. s A Winter’s Tale is also to my opinion one of the most touching songs ever, considering dreamy psychedelic effect, the lyrics and the fact this was his last song he has written (harmony and lyrics). This song is underrated…… but one of the best to my opinion.
Chief Mouse · Member since
^ this.
The Real Wizard · Member since
^ indeed, that.
ActionThisDay · Member since
Cool Cat.
Not a fan of the song but was one of his best vocals.
Day dop · Member since
I think Freddie's voice improved from the Game album onwards - Play the Game and Save me both spring to mind.
The intro to Love is the Hero.
How can I go on - and the Barcelona album in general.
Although not my favourite album, A kind of Magic has some great vocals.
And Mr bad guy - the Made in Heaven track in particular. (I think the Made in heaven album version of that song is a great showpiece).
