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Certainly don't want to fight with Glambies. Tiptap, I'm just sayin,' in reading your original post, I now see my mistake with QOL's mod JPL. It's just funny how we see our own mistakes when others make them.
I just visited QOL and overall it is bustling. The organization of the topics are really good with a wide and diverse contributors from different eras. With QZ, topics and posters are also really good (actually terrific), but not as organized, for instance, almost a dozen QZ AL threads now exist, mainly on the serious discussion subforum, and many of them are not serious Queen discussions.
"And why are you talking like Gomer Pyle?" Because for a big chunk of my youth, that's the way I spoke. Hard to get mad and stay mad when folks communicate in long slow drawls.
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I know most of the AL threads under the serious topic sub-forum aren't actually serious, but if you look closely most of them were not made by glamberts.
Now I'm all for being a good guest, but I also expect the hosts to be civil as well. Expecting new members to behave like second class citizens, or run the gauntlet of the trolls, is something you may be willing to do, but not me. And since there are no rules requiring that here, I certainly won't.
Perceptions differ but the fact that you find QOL bustling amazes me. It's almost dead, imo, except for the non-Queen related chat-with-friends threads. I read there, but can catch up a whole week's activity in an evening. I think those chat threads are great, but now that there's a new Queen topic on the horizon, I'm really looking forward to those discussions (although not as much, of course, as I am looking forward to the live events).
I know what you mean by accents. When the movie Fargo first came out I was a bit offended by the almost-comic depiction of the Minnesota accents. They had everyone in the movie, from Bloomington (a suburb of Minneapolis) to Fargo (a city in North Dakota, just outside the Minnesota border) talking with the same, thick Iron Range accent like they do in Chisolm. But then I started listening to my friends and co-workers a little closer, and sure enough, almost every native Minnesotan has a bit of that accent, peppered with the ubiquitous phrases like 'yah sure you betcha' and 'uff da!' If you ever hear someone say those two things, you can bet they're from Minnesota - yah sure you betcha :>[/QUOTE]
I think you have a bone to pick with QOL/some of it's people.
Your ego is something to behold. Your own set of rules, and clearly you don't want certain others to join in discussions n QZ, which is petty,selfish and a very controlling thing for you to do.
You have a horrible, misguided sense of entitlement when comes down to what you want/need, and I know you will stoop very low in trying to get it.
Goodco just posted this in the serious discussion sub-forum, and I think it's great advice. It's very zen-like. But I hope it doesn't show up twice because I thought I posted it a minute ago but now can't find it. Oops, found it in the wrong thread!
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Goodco just posted this in the serious discussion sub-forum, and I think it's great advice.
I hope it doesn't show up twice because I thought I posted it a minute ago but now can't find it. Oops, found it in the wrong thread!
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Relying on what others have to say as much as ever I see :)
So, on Thursday you copied and pasted in 3 threads the same message, and now the same pic in 2 threads.
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Goodco just posted this in the serious discussion sub-forum, and I think it's great advice. It's very zen-like. But I hope it doesn't show up twice because I thought I posted it a minute ago but now can't find it. Oops, found it in the wrong thread!
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Great advice -- Charlie Brown always gets it right!
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Perceptions differ but the fact that you find QOL bustling amazes me. It's almost dead, imo, except for the non-Queen related chat-with-friends threads. I read there, but can catch up a whole week's activity in an evening. I think those chat threads are great, but now that there's a new Queen topic on the horizon, I'm really looking forward to those discussions (although not as much, of course, as I am looking forward to the live events).
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Your definition of dead may be void of Adam Lambert proseletizing. QOL has few threads devoted to AL, but which include meaningful comparisons to other Queen performances. Now that you have established your AL church here with over a dozen threads and now subforums on your god, you are satisfied that this forum is better.
Not something that very nice Adam Lambert would want.
Get to know Queen, and expect to have a far better experience with Q+AL.
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Perceptions differ but the fact that you find QOL bustling amazes me. It's almost dead, imo, except for the non-Queen related chat-with-friends threads. I read there, but can catch up a whole week's activity in an evening. I think those chat threads are great, but now that there's a new Queen topic on the horizon, I'm really looking forward to those discussions (although not as much, of course, as I am looking forward to the live events).
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Your definition of dead may be void of Adam Lambert proseletizing. QOL has few threads devoted to AL, but which include meaningful comparisons to other Queen performances. Now that you have established your AL church here with over a dozen threads and now subforums on your god, you are satisfied that this forum is better.
Not something that very nice Adam Lambert would want.
Get to know Queen, and expect to have a far better experience with Q+AL.
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FreddieCat, I think WE know Queen very well--all of them--Freddie, John, Brian and Roger! We need the others to get to know Adam better so that THEY will have a better experience with Q+AL. THEY are not giving him a fair chance! It works both ways!
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Perceptions differ but the fact that you find QOL bustling amazes me. It's almost dead, imo, except for the non-Queen related chat-with-friends threads. I read there, but can catch up a whole week's activity in an evening. I think those chat threads are great, but now that there's a new Queen topic on the horizon, I'm really looking forward to those discussions (although not as much, of course, as I am looking forward to the live events).
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Your definition of dead may be void of Adam Lambert proseletizing. QOL has few threads devoted to AL, but which include meaningful comparisons to other Queen performances. Now that you have established your AL church here with over a dozen threads and now subforums on your god, you are satisfied that this forum is better.
Not something that very nice Adam Lambert would want.
Get to know Queen, and expect to have a far better experience with Q+AL.
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FreddieCat, I think WE know Queen very well--all of them--Freddie, John, Brian and Roger! We need the others to get to know Adam better so that THEY will have a better experience with Q+AL. THEY are not giving him a fair chance! It works both ways!
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Bullshit, sweetcaroine. Your extent of Queen knowledge is comparing AL with Freddie. Have you figured out yet it was Brian May who wrote SMGO?
"we need the others to get to know Adam better" Says it all really. Even with Brian and Roger, it's a shout for AL to be known more. The sense of greed and entitlement some of you have where AL is concerned is quite something.
I watched many a clip about AL, read many an article about AL, and I still don't think he has a rock voice.
Works both ways, yea funny this thread is proof some have it's my way or no way at all where taptap is concerned. It's looking more and more like a cult as time goes on for some of you. If you and taptap want only to talk with each other and your own clique all about AL, well even I know there are other AL sites to do that.
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Perceptions differ but the fact that you find QOL bustling amazes me. It's almost dead, imo, except for the non-Queen related chat-with-friends threads. I read there, but can catch up a whole week's activity in an evening. I think those chat threads are great, but now that there's a new Queen topic on the horizon, I'm really looking forward to those discussions (although not as much, of course, as I am looking forward to the live events).
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Your definition of dead may be void of Adam Lambert proseletizing. QOL has few threads devoted to AL, but which include meaningful comparisons to other Queen performances. Now that you have established your AL church here with over a dozen threads and now subforums on your god, you are satisfied that this forum is better.
Not something that very nice Adam Lambert would want.
Get to know Queen, and expect to have a far better experience with Q+AL.
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lolol oh geez, seriously? Adam has no more clue about what I'm doing than Brian and Roger have for what you're doing. I also would be highly surprised if either cared about the online discussion of fans. The arenas are filling up, and those that are opposed won't be there - all fine and dandy with me. I think you take it all far too seriously. We're fans having fun. Sorry, but you've been proslytizing waaay more than I ever have (which is never if you've actually read my posts.). But different strokes for different folks, and perceptions differ. You see what you see, but I think you're far too worried about what other people think of you. Your business of course, just my two cents since you've brought it up several times.
Your comment about the forums and threads is strange. I did a count (if was really simple to do), and here are the stats:
Serious Discussion sub-forum:
9 Threads (6 by QZ old-timers (polls, goats, sheep, yada yada - not exactly serious stuff), 3 by new members)
QPR sub-forum
4 Threads (1 by QZ old-timers (a new poll about what's better than QAL), 3 by new members)
We didn't change the sub-forum, YV did. We just moved the discussion over to the QPR sub-forum, as she requested. Three threads is not much for QAL compared to the dozens there for QPR. Why so serious over numbers, especially numbers that are relatively insignificant?
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[b]SweetCaroline wrote: [/b] [QUOTE]FreddieCat, I think WE know Queen very well--all of them--Freddie, John, Brian and Roger! We need the others to get to know Adam better so that THEY will have a better experience with Q+AL. THEY are not giving him a fair chance! It works both ways!
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I have to disagree a bit. Life isn't fair, and why bother trying to convince people about Adam when they're not interested. He doesn't need everyone to be a fan, just enough to fill those arena seats - which is already a done deal, for all intents and purposes. And it seems clear that Brian and Roger and Adam agree with that philosophy. Brian's 'Thank you and goodbye' to those opposed to the Q+ projects pretty much said it all, and Adam's laissez faire attitude is right on point with theirs. I'd rather discuss the project and both entities with two interested fans than with a dozen who just want to fight and argue - any day.
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[b]SweetCaroline wrote: [/b] [QUOTE]FreddieCat, I think WE know Queen very well--all of them--Freddie, John, Brian and Roger! We need the others to get to know Adam better so that THEY will have a better experience with Q+AL. THEY are not giving him a fair chance! It works both ways!
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I have to disagree a bit. Life isn't fair, and why bother trying to convince people about Adam when they're not interested. He doesn't need everyone to be a fan, just enough to fill those arena seats - which is already a done deal, for all intents and purposes. And it seems clear that Brian and Roger and Adam agree with that philosophy. Brian's 'Thank you and goodbye' to those opposed to the Q+ projects pretty much said it all, and Adam's laissez faire attitude is right on point with theirs. I'd rather discuss the project and both entities with two interested fans than with a dozen who just want to fight and argue - any day.[/QUOTE]
I'm encouraged by those fans in London who attended the Hammersmith shows and had a great time. Jeff Scott Soto from QE attended and was singing their praises.
This is a great review from a lifelong Queen fan about the Hammersmith show as well as the comments that follow:
http://markgilroymusic.wordpress.com/2012/07/14/live-review-queen-adam-lambert-london-hammersmith-apollo-11712/
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[b]SweetCaroline wrote: [/b] [QUOTE]FreddieCat, I think WE know Queen very well--all of them--Freddie, John, Brian and Roger! We need the others to get to know Adam better so that THEY will have a better experience with Q+AL. THEY are not giving him a fair chance! It works both ways!
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I have to disagree a bit. Life isn't fair, and why bother trying to convince people about Adam when they're not interested. He doesn't need everyone to be a fan, just enough to fill those arena seats - which is already a done deal, for all intents and purposes. And it seems clear that Brian and Roger and Adam agree with that philosophy. Brian's 'Thank you and goodbye' to those opposed to the Q+ projects pretty much said it all, and Adam's laissez faire attitude is right on point with theirs. I'd rather discuss the project and both entities with two interested fans than with a dozen who just want to fight and argue - any day.[/QUOTE]
If you both feel life isn't fair about AL discussions...get a life. Far more important thing to worry about.
Why bother? What else can you talk about other than AL and related things? Queen as a band isn't even worthy as a discussion. You both are so transparent, promote and praise him.
sweetcaroline and I dare say you do as well taptap, needs everyone to be a fan, and a "super fan" "obsessive" fan just like you 2.
You both want a cult like method about AL where anyone who doesn't see AL the way you both do are on the outside.
Love this comment from the Mark Gilroy review:
"Shadygirl1031 on July 14, 2012 at 7:59 pm said:
Mark, I was at first two shows and was just as impressed and emotional as you about these songs. Isn’t it amazing how much better Adam sounds live than what can be heard and seen via video? There are no words to express accurately just how strong and vibrant he voice is live. This man is definitely the most powerful and magnetic singer of our generation and I hope that he can keep showing the world just how amazing he is with Queen and solo. I just wish I’d been able to get a ticket for tonight but had to return to the states. Thanks for such a positive and accurate review of the concert. You can really tap into the heart of the show."
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Love this comment from the Mark Gilroy review:
"Shadygirl1031 on July 14, 2012 at 7:59 pm said:
Mark, I was at first two shows and was just as impressed and emotional as you about these songs. Isn’t it amazing how much better Adam sounds live than what can be heard and seen via video? There are no words to express accurately just how strong and vibrant he voice is live. This man is definitely the most powerful and magnetic singer of our generation and I hope that he can keep showing the world just how amazing he is with Queen and solo. I just wish I’d been able to get a ticket for tonight but had to return to the states. Thanks for such a positive and accurate review of the concert. You can really tap into the heart of the show."
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Not sure what is worse. What you have to say about AL, or your relying on other's peoples posts/comments that agree with your views.
Either way, it's a very sad and a sorry way to prove your bias.
Ha! Ha! Another great one:
"Vicki Hayes on July 14, 2012 at 8:21 pm said:
Mark, Thank you so much for writing about (and capturing) this London concert experience for those of us who so long to be there. Unless you’ve ever been to a live Adam Lambert concert, it’s hard to convey what that atmosphere is like. It’s shimmering electrified magic. And it has to be turbo-charged times 3 with Roger and Brian; what a perfect chemistry the 3 of these superstars–actually all 6 musicians–have together on that stage! I’ve been to 4 live Adam Glam Nation Tour concerts: Nashville, Louisville, Indianapolis (Glam Nation Live DVD), and New Orleans. All were seated venues, but no one sits. The only way to describe it is that it’s like an ongoing, unending standing ovation for Adam. I, too, had never experienced anything like this. It’s simply breathtaking. In Nashville, foot stomping on the wooden floor of the Ryman was added to applause, cheers, and screams. At one pt. the sound became so rhythmic and deafening it was like being in a trance. The haunting, deafening sound of a million crickets chirping in the woods at night in the heart of the Great Smokey Mountains is the only other sound I ever heard that I could compare it to. To me Lousiville was his most elegant, adult, campy GNT show. He was in his stride in a beautiful white wedding cake of a recently restored theatre called The Brown, which is Louisville’s opera venue. Like you, I craved pure Adam voice in this place with perfect acoustics. When he sang Soaked I had a fantasy of jumping on stage and ripping his sparkly microphone out of his hands so we could hear that voice straight up with no electronic amplification. (I did consider it briefly, being about 5 feet from ft of stage :). In my experience I would actually rank Adam’s Glam Nation Tour right up there with Phantom of the Opera for sheer sensory bliss. Actually, if I had to choose, I would pick Adam’s GNT. I can’t begin to imagine what it would be like to experience these London concerts live. Queen and their music are simply brilliant. Their music–ranging from operatic, contemporary classical, jazz, blues, folk, heavy metal, to classic rock–is a spectacular feast for ears and eyes. Queen and Adam are a match made in the stratosphere. I have wondered if Dr. May summoned Adam from some distant planet (Fierce), although Adam’s dad, Eber, once said that Baby Adam had been dropped on their doorstep by Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves ;)."
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Ha! Ha! Another great one:
"Vicki Hayes on July 14, 2012 at 8:21 pm said:
Mark, Thank you so much for writing about (and capturing) this London concert experience for those of us who so long to be there. Unless you’ve ever been to a live Adam Lambert concert, it’s hard to convey what that atmosphere is like. It’s shimmering electrified magic. And it has to be turbo-charged times 3 with Roger and Brian; what a perfect chemistry the 3 of these superstars–actually all 6 musicians–have together on that stage! I’ve been to 4 live Adam Glam Nation Tour concerts: Nashville, Louisville, Indianapolis (Glam Nation Live DVD), and New Orleans. All were seated venues, but no one sits. The only way to describe it is that it’s like an ongoing, unending standing ovation for Adam. I, too, had never experienced anything like this. It’s simply breathtaking. In Nashville, foot stomping on the wooden floor of the Ryman was added to applause, cheers, and screams. At one pt. the sound became so rhythmic and deafening it was like being in a trance. The haunting, deafening sound of a million crickets chirping in the woods at night in the heart of the Great Smokey Mountains is the only other sound I ever heard that I could compare it to. To me Lousiville was his most elegant, adult, campy GNT show. He was in his stride in a beautiful white wedding cake of a recently restored theatre called The Brown, which is Louisville’s opera venue. Like you, I craved pure Adam voice in this place with perfect acoustics. When he sang Soaked I had a fantasy of jumping on stage and ripping his sparkly microphone out of his hands so we could hear that voice straight up with no electronic amplification. (I did consider it briefly, being about 5 feet from ft of stage :). In my experience I would actually rank Adam’s Glam Nation Tour right up there with Phantom of the Opera for sheer sensory bliss. Actually, if I had to choose, I would pick Adam’s GNT. I can’t begin to imagine what it would be like to experience these London concerts live. Queen and their music are simply brilliant. Their music–ranging from operatic, contemporary classical, jazz, blues, folk, heavy metal, to classic rock–is a spectacular feast for ears and eyes. Queen and Adam are a match made in the stratosphere. I have wondered if Dr. May summoned Adam from some distant planet (Fierce), although Adam’s dad, Eber, once said that Baby Adam had been dropped on their doorstep by Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves ;)."
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Well she is certainly enthusiastic. I think she should try her hand at romance novels, though, because she's got flowery hyperbole down pat. It's fun to see a fan's excitement, but I had to laugh at her comparing the loud theatre with a million crickets. In my head that came out as a bit of a contradiction, but it was cute. Just a bit of trivia, did you know that a large percent of romance novelists are men using women's pen-names? True enough. They learn the 'formula', image ott romantically-inclined women, and go to town.
Oops, I'm moving my response to the Adam thread - didn't even notice where this was to begin with!
