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What are you stay same Queen? The last Queen gig was in 1986....Brian May, Roger Taylor and one of the best frontman of rock history, Mr. Paul Rodgers.
I agree Paul never would sang songs like I want to break free....of course, for that, I preffer to listen his stuff than Queen covers, because honestly, this is a tribute band with two original members.

[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]

I saw Paul Rodger with Queen in 2005, and it was wonderful. Paul Rodgers is one of the greatest singers of all time. He´s in his 60´s and still going strong. I absolutely loved that Paul brought Queen to a more bluesy and Rockier side. Always with a smile on his face, he made everybody feel welcomed.
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Perfectly valid opinion. Paul is absolutely one of the greats, and did a great job. I enjoyed the 2 Q+PR shows I saw, and hearing what he & Brian did together was definitely interesting. Because of his drastically different style, though, he made me want to hear someone a bit more suited to the range that Freddie had. That's not a slight toward Paul, it's just who he is as a singer. Apples & Oranges.

[QUOTE] [b]Apocalipsis_Darko wrote:[/b]

What are you stay same Queen? The last Queen gig was in 1986....Brian May, Roger Taylor and one of the best frontman of rock history, Mr. Paul Rodgers.
I agree Paul never would sang songs like I want to break free....of course, for that, I preffer to listen his stuff than Queen covers, because honestly, this is a tribute band with two original members.[/QUOTE]
I kind of agree, it is a tribute band with 2 original members. And those 2 original members have the legal right to use the name, "Queen." But that doesn't bother me. The only question then is, whatever you choose to call it, is it something worth seeing as a Queen fan? The answer to me is unquestionably, yes.

I was at the iHeart concert, and I got to see a rehearsal for the full show. And I'm very much looking forward to seeing the final production!

Queenzoners, What can you possibly find wrong with this? I'm sure there's something though.

There are legal things about the Queen name....some off the record things that explains all this "Queen"+

First clip I've seen of the 'folding' lighting rig - wow!!

I just watched a video of LOML on YouTube from Chicago. When Freddie appeared on the screen, the place went nuts.

Haven't posted here for a long time, but as I am closely following the shows on the web, a few things about this tour came to my mind.

First of all, yes, I do have a problem with the fact that Adam appeared on Idol. I hate casting shows. Loathe them. Here in germany, the winners are not taken seriously, generally pretty ridiculous, and sell a lot of their respective first singles to a teenage pop audience, and fade into obscurity right after that. And deservedly so. Having played in rock bands for 20 years or so I just can't get used to this sh**!

But man, the guy can sing! My father is a classical musician, and I used to sing in his choir (more rock'n'roll than you might imagine, one get's really thirsty after two hours of rehearsing Mozart's Coronation mass) I am impressed by Adam's range and sound. Okay, there's the occasional Aguilera-like yodeling show-off, but I can live with that, and he seems to have reduced it anyway. Still a very talented singer. And he seems to be a really nice bloke. So what the heck?

I went to see QPR in cologne, and it was absolutely great. Paul is a fantastic singer, and did the songs chosen justice. So does Adam, IMO. Queen is known for it's diversity, and that continues with the singers chosen for the "+"-projects.

So by now I still don't like the fact that he appeared on Idol, but mostly because why in the first place? With that Instrument in his throat he could've made a living on music without it.

But I really, really don't want to add to these discussions (and they won't end anyway). Everyones entitled to their opinions, and I honestly respect that. For me the Queen I got to know and love ended in 1991. But in my opinion, Bri and Rog can and should do what they want as musicians, and whether this is called Queen or whatever I don't care. I enjoyed seeing them play (both solo and with Paul so far), they're still my heroes, and if QAL comes to europe, I'll be there.

I got my first Queen-tape in september '86, just 2 months after their triumphant show at our stadium. I never had the chance to see Freddie perform, and this will hurt me for the rest of my life. So for me, their solo tours and Q+ is everything I get. And it's great!

But to conclude this post, and why I put it here in the first place: watch that video of LOML from Chicago, look at Brian, hear the wonderful reaction of the crowd when Freddie appears. What a great moment. Goosebumps. The music lives on.

[QUOTE] [b]Apocalipsis_Darko wrote:[/b]


I agree Paul never would sang songs like I want to break free....[/QUOTE]


They did that song on the 2005 tour.......

[QUOTE] [b]Regor wrote:[/b]

I just watched a video of LOML on YouTube from Chicago. When Freddie appeared on the screen, the place went nuts.

Haven't posted here for a long time, but as I am closely following the shows on the web, a few things about this tour came to my mind.

First of all, yes, I do have a problem with the fact that Adam appeared on Idol. I hate casting shows. Loathe them. Here in germany, the winners are not taken seriously, generally pretty ridiculous, and sell a lot of their respective first singles to a teenage pop audience, and fade into obscurity right after that. And deservedly so. Having played in rock bands for 20 years or so I just can't get used to this sh**!

But man, the guy can sing! My father is a classical musician, and I used to sing in his choir (more rock'n'roll than you might imagine, one get's really thirsty after two hours of rehearsing Mozart's Coronation mass) I am impressed by Adam's range and sound. Okay, there's the occasional Aguilera-like yodeling show-off, but I can live with that, and he seems to have reduced it anyway. Still a very talented singer. And he seems to be a really nice bloke. So what the heck?

I went to see QPR in cologne, and it was absolutely great. Paul is a fantastic singer, and did the songs chosen justice. So does Adam, IMO. Queen is known for it's diversity, and that continues with the singers chosen for the "+"-projects.

So by now I still don't like the fact that he appeared on Idol, but mostly because why in the first place? With that Instrument in his throat he could've made a living on music without it.

But I really, really don't want to add to these discussions (and they won't end anyway). Everyones entitled to their opinions, and I honestly respect that. For me the Queen I got to know and love ended in 1991. But in my opinion, Bri and Rog can and should do what they want as musicians, and whether this is called Queen or whatever I don't care. I enjoyed seeing them play (both solo and with Paul so far), they're still my heroes, and if QAL comes to europe, I'll be there.

I got my first Queen-tape in september '86, just 2 months after their triumphant show at our stadium. I never had the chance to see Freddie perform, and this will hurt me for the rest of my life. So for me, their solo tours and Q+ is everything I get. And it's great!

But to conclude this post, and why I put it here in the first place: watch that video of LOML from Chicago, look at Brian, hear the wonderful reaction of the crowd when Freddie appears. What a great moment. Goosebumps. The music lives on.[/QUOTE]

I like your perspective. But we (Chicago) made a hell of a lot of noise during most of the set... we NEEDED this tour! Bloodthirsty! Go check out Nick's "Road" posts on queenonline for his quote about it... he quotes that even the sound guy noted how loud the crowd was. LOL... But is that a surprise from Chicago? To be loud? To borrow a line from Roger: "It's what we do!" ha ha. I have never been to a show with such anticipation/excitement.

And I posted a link to my silly iphone videos, there are others on YouTube... it's mind-blowing to me the level of excitement they generated in our audience that night. I am NOT being too effusive in saying "Best Show EVER". Heading to Detroit and can't wait to (hopefully) hear DSMN, maybe one or two other different trax? But even if not, the set list is still impeccable and I know they'll deliver on a herculean level. Bless 'em.

Thanks for your reply. Yeah, you guys in Chicago made a fantastic noise, great Clips on YT.

There is a feeling that both the band and the audience fueled each other with excitement. Great atmosphere.

Hope you enjoy your next show in Detroit, rock on!

[QUOTE] [b]Regor wrote:[/b]

I just watched a video of LOML on YouTube from Chicago. When Freddie appeared on the screen, the place went nuts.

Haven't posted here for a long time, but as I am closely following the shows on the web, a few things about this tour came to my mind.

First of all, yes, I do have a problem with the fact that Adam appeared on Idol. I hate casting shows. Loathe them. Here in germany, the winners are not taken seriously, generally pretty ridiculous, and sell a lot of their respective first singles to a teenage pop audience, and fade into obscurity right after that. And deservedly so. Having played in rock bands for 20 years or so I just can't get used to this sh**!

But man, the guy can sing! My father is a classical musician, and I used to sing in his choir (more rock'n'roll than you might imagine, one get's really thirsty after two hours of rehearsing Mozart's Coronation mass) I am impressed by Adam's range and sound. Okay, there's the occasional Aguilera-like yodeling show-off, but I can live with that, and he seems to have reduced it anyway. Still a very talented singer. And he seems to be a really nice bloke. So what the heck?

I went to see QPR in cologne, and it was absolutely great. Paul is a fantastic singer, and did the songs chosen justice. So does Adam, IMO. Queen is known for it's diversity, and that continues with the singers chosen for the "+"-projects.

So by now I still don't like the fact that he appeared on Idol, but mostly because why in the first place? With that Instrument in his throat he could've made a living on music without it.

But I really, really don't want to add to these discussions (and they won't end anyway). Everyones entitled to their opinions, and I honestly respect that. For me the Queen I got to know and love ended in 1991. But in my opinion, Bri and Rog can and should do what they want as musicians, and whether this is called Queen or whatever I don't care. I enjoyed seeing them play (both solo and with Paul so far), they're still my heroes, and if QAL comes to europe, I'll be there.

I got my first Queen-tape in september '86, just 2 months after their triumphant show at our stadium. I never had the chance to see Freddie perform, and this will hurt me for the rest of my life. So for me, their solo tours and Q+ is everything I get. And it's great!

But to conclude this post, and why I put it here in the first place: watch that video of LOML from Chicago, look at Brian, hear the wonderful reaction of the crowd when Freddie appears. What a great moment. Goosebumps. The music lives on.[/QUOTE]

Great post, I think I agree with every single thing you said. I've also been trying to make the point in various threads that it's a very special thing to be able to see Brian & Roger do a live set of Queen! Nobody will please everyone as a singer doing Freddie's role. Freddie was truly one of a kind, and obviously, there was never any attempt to "replace" him.

I think that's what the source of a lot of the negative criticism is, a notion that Adam is trying to replace Freddie, or that the guys intend that with the Queen+ tours.

I was fortunate and got to see Queen twice, in '77 and '78. Is this the same, or as good as those shows? Of course not, but it is a celebration of just how great the music is, that it can live on with a new generation. And Adam is showing himself to by and large be very much up to the task, along with Brian & Roger, of making it a very worthy celebration.

[QUOTE] [b]Apocalipsis_Darko wrote:[/b]

What are you stay same Queen? The last Queen gig was in 1986....Brian May, Roger Taylor and one of the best frontman of rock history, Mr. Paul Rodgers.
I agree Paul never would sang songs like I want to break free....of course, for that, I preffer to listen his stuff than Queen covers, because honestly, this is a tribute band with two original members.[/QUOTE]

Was Black Sabbath a tribute band in 1980?

Was Deep Purple a tribute band in 1974?

Was Genesis a tribute band in 1976?

Is Yes a tribute band now? Is Journey a tribute band now? Chicago? Supertramp? CCR?


As long as you realize the difference between indisputable facts and YOUR OPINION.

The fact is - the remaining members of a band can do whatever they want with the name and the music. If you don't like it, that's fine. But it doesn't make you a lawyer, a music historian or a judge making a definitive decision of what a band is or isn't. It is merely your opinion.

And as long as you know that 15-20 thousand people a night seem to disagree with you...

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/


As long as you realize the difference between indisputable facts and YOUR OPINION.

The fact is - the remaining members of a band can do whatever they want with the name and the music. If you don't like it, that's fine. But it doesn't make you a lawyer, a music historian or a judge making a definitive decision of what a band is or isn't. It is merely your opinion.

And as long as you know that 15-20 thousand people a night seem to disagree with you...[/QUOTE]


This is so true. I don't understand the unwillingness for people to accept that Queen have wanted to carry on playing their music.

They are doing it in a respectful way too. the Queen + name casts no doubt that who ever is singing is not a full time member or replacement, the show references Freddie on a number of occasions.

These shows seem to be better received than the PR shows. AL can sing, and with him they seem able to present a wider choice of songs.

One thing MR Wizard you forgot that tribute band from Canada, Rush I think they're called. Their drummer left after one album, they ended up with some other guy! ;)

Why is it not OK to dislike/disapprove of this whole project? I don't like Queen rehashing old stuff any more than I like The Rolling Stones rehashing old stuff (and I find them frankly embarrassing, with their whole regiment of supporting musicians to cover up their inability to play a full show), but that is somehow seen as a wicked view to take. You *have* to approve of old have-been rockers trying to relive their former glory, because if you don't, you're a "nazi" or a "fundamentalist", or, in the case of Q+AL, you must be a homophobe Freddie-worshiping (note the irony) ultra-conservative.

I have no interest in some synthetic pop-singer (AL), and I don't have any interest in seeing two old rockers, at least one of them half-deaf, pretending it's thirty years ago.

[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]

I have no interest in some synthetic pop-singer (AL), and I don't have any interest in seeing two old rockers, at least one of them half-deaf, pretending it's thirty years ago.[/QUOTE]

Good for you, just don´t go to the concerts. See how easy it is?
But we as Queen fans don´t have to read your opinion ad nauseam on what is supposed to be a Queen fan site - a site where it´s users like to support Queen.

Criticism is healthy. Bringing someone down everytime you post about this subject isn´t. Just don´t expect to come to a Queen site and attack my beloved band without me or others steping in to defend them.

It´s repulsive to me and to other music fans - not just Queen fans - to read your´s and others remarks about Adam Lambert with every post you make. It only shows where you guys are coming from as persons. Adam is a great vocalist, and nothing you and others here say will change that fact. Nothing!

And next time, show some respect to Brian May and Roger Taylor too. Roger may be suffering from deafness, but he is not an old half-deaf rocker. And the reason why he´s "half- deaf" now as you put it, is because he gave everything he got in the past so you and others - who only badmouth everything he does today - could have great shows to listen to - like Wembley 86, Live Aid, Montreal, Houston, etc.

[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]

Why is it not OK to dislike/disapprove of this whole project? I don't like Queen rehashing old stuff any more than I like The Rolling Stones rehashing old stuff (and I find them frankly embarrassing, with their whole regiment of supporting musicians to cover up their inability to play a full show), but that is somehow seen as a wicked view to take. You *have* to approve of old have-been rockers trying to relive their former glory, because if you don't, you're a "nazi" or a "fundamentalist", or, in the case of Q+AL, you must be a homophobe Freddie-worshiping (note the irony) ultra-conservative.

I have no interest in some synthetic pop-singer (AL),
and I don't have any interest in seeing two old rockers, at least one of them half-deaf, pretending
it's thirty years ago.[/QUOTE]

What a limited view you have.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion as to if something is good or not. That will always be something people will have differing views about.

What seems wrong to me us when people seem to think that they have the right to dictate whether or not people have the right to do something, as is very often the case here.

What is worse is when someone who is regarded as intelligent has the view that age is a problem and band shouldn't rehash. If that's the case nobody should play anything off a previous album. The only people touring should be those who have just released new music because your view amounts to that being all that should be played.

As fir the age thing. I hope when/if you reach BM and RT's age someone is there to tell you you're wrong for doing what you love