The comment section. Very bizarre, sort of amusing.
I'm seeing this quite a bit on the net, on the Queen page as well.
Btw, I only pop on here once in a while, so I don't know if you guys get it in here. Seems like a bit of a divide has come about between old fans and new fans.
The top comments at the moment look pretty reasonable. There's always gonna be idiots out there - the comments on Queen's facebook page are a prime example. Seems like people can't bear to take a middle ground - it's either gotta be that Adam is incomprehensibly wonderful and better than Freddie, or he's an absolute stain on Queen's reputation, and Brian and Roger are washed up fools for playing with him.
matt z · Member since
Freddie fans win by a landslide
For sheer brutality and for numbers
Adam fans PRO:
Young club kids
gay thug kids
rotten rich kids
Growing numbers, yet not numerous enough
potentially diverse fan base, possible athletes and martial artists
Adam fans CON
some possibly frail/ effeminate
many children
Growing number of middle aged and old women (GOOGLE BARRY MANILOW for honest comparison for this target style audience, thankfully for him this rock exposure and his refusal to"die" as a standards cover artist may keep him around. ... plus he's literally gay. ... that's the ONLY thing saving GAGA at the moment. ... blatant pandering to a gay crowd. Her last album was shit. Right down to Jeff Koons (who doesn't even create his artwork, it's designed then he has others compose it)
Oh right. .. cons
For sheer brutality, his audience may contain the occasional athlete or fighter but those are few and far between
FREDDIE fans PRO
capitalize his name in comparison
probably number in the tens of millions (really. People keep f***ing regardless of depleting resources)
Warriors, influential, fighters, athletes etc
in virtually every language
ARE FOOTBALL FANS (futbol riot anyone? )
Know how to bludgeon (see above)
Freddie fans CON
some are effeminate and can't fight
MANY are just as old as Brian and Roger
*but. ..... many are gun owners
RESULT?
CLEARLY, Freddie fans win by multitudes and power, as well as influence.
It's a no brainer. They're tougher as well.
I'd like to see that fight.
It'd be better than shit like that movie 300
gerry · Member since
Its like everything else, Adam Lambert fans are just silly girls a bit like "one direction", they do not care if he can or cannot sing but they like him because he is a pretty boy with eye liner and all that goth clothing he wears, its so Not Queen and May & Taylor look very odd performing with Lambert. In "Record Collector" the readers have wrote in to say that Lambert is a no no and so was Paul Rodgers,
But if i had to pick one it would certainly be Paul, because he is a fine rock singer and Lambert has not even hit British radio stations yet or been in the top 10 single charts!
I am a long ardent Freddie Mercury fan, he is god of rock and roll and May & Taylor know Queen has disolved, so why spoil the legacy of playing stadiums with a glorified west end singer, or (could have been) but please singing in the greatest rock group ever is just mental. Queen will always be known for Freddie Mercury, but the bit at the end with Lambert will always be Queens most cringe worthy moment in my opinion.
malicedoom · Member since
Just going based off the show last night at the United Center in Chicago, everyone seemed to love the 'Complete Package'.
The place was jammed and there were fans from both and all really seemed to enjoy the night. And Lambert sounded great and had no problem fitting in perfectly with Queen.
It was fantastic to see.
Just my $0.02.
gerry · Member since
great glad you had a nice time but.... have you ever seen Queen with Freddie Mercury?
If you thought lambert was great then you would have been blown away watching Freddie on stage.
Lambert is just a singer, Freddie is a rock legend and the greatest showman ever!
FreddieCat · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
Freddie fans win by a landslide
For sheer brutality and for numbers
Adam fans PRO:
Young club kids
gay thug kids
rotten rich kids
Growing numbers, yet not numerous enough
potentially diverse fan base, possible athletes and martial artists
Adam fans CON
some possibly frail/ effeminate
many children
Growing number of middle aged and old women (GOOGLE BARRY MANILOW for honest comparison for this target style audience, thankfully for him this rock exposure and his refusal to"die" as a standards cover artist may keep him around. ... plus he's literally gay. ... that's the ONLY thing saving GAGA at the moment. ... blatant pandering to a gay crowd. Her last album was shit. Right down to Jeff Koons (who doesn't even create his artwork, it's designed then he has others compose it)
Oh right. .. cons
For sheer brutality, his audience may contain the occasional athlete or fighter but those are few and far between
FREDDIE fans PRO
capitalize his name in comparison
probably number in the tens of millions (really. People keep f***ing regardless of depleting resources)
Warriors, influential, fighters, athletes etc
in virtually every language
ARE FOOTBALL FANS (futbol riot anyone? )
Know how to bludgeon (see above)
Freddie fans CON
some are effeminate and can't fight
MANY are just as old as Brian and Roger
*but. ..... many are gun owners
RESULT?
CLEARLY, Freddie fans win by multitudes and power, as well as influence.
It's a no brainer. They're tougher as well.
I'd like to see that fight.
It'd be better than shit like that movie 300
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I fit into the Freddie fan oldster category, but I can fight with the best!
flash00. · Member since
Well said!! i cringed watching that [QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
great glad you had a nice time but.... have you ever seen Queen with Freddie Mercury?
If you thought lambert was great then you would have been blown away watching Freddie on stage.
Lambert is just a singer, Freddie is a rock legend and the greatest showman ever!
[/QUOTE]
gerry · Member since
I was just thinking, Adam Lambert has never ever performed in stadiums as big as what Queen are used too and he has no experience of getting the crowds to eat out of his hands like Freddie was the master doing that one!
So i feel Brian & Roger are very wrong for taking Lambert on board, and when i see in the press that Lambert has been branded the replacement lead vocalist to replace un-comparable Freddie Mercury it gets me so so annoyed.
May & Taylor are kidding them selves if they think they can pull this one off, because i am not a mug, we all know Lambert is pretty awful singing the back Queen catalogue, i mean christ nobody at Mercurys tribute concert could sing Queens back catalogue, the closest been George Michael, but the rest did not have any charisma to pull it off what Fred had.
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
I was just thinking, Adam Lambert has never ever performed in stadiums as big as what Queen are used too and he has no experience of getting the crowds to eat out of his hands like Freddie was the master doing that one!
So i feel Brian & Roger are very wrong for taking Lambert on board, and when i see in the press that Lambert has been branded the replacement lead vocalist to replace un-comparable Freddie Mercury it gets me so so annoyed.
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Not quite true. One of the biggest audiences Queen have played to was in 2012 with Adam Lambert.
Up until Hyde Park Queen had never played to a huge audience, and wouldn't again until a few years later.
From the mid/late 70's most Queen tours played to arenas.
So really there is very little difference in what they are doing with AL and what they did on most tours with Freddie.
You have to start somewhere, when Queen played Hyde park, Freddie didn't have the same ability that came later. If you watch AL he has some degree of control and showmanship in Chicago.
Yes Freddie became/was a true master of the art and you're right no one comes close
Marcos Napier · Member since
[QUOTE]You have to start somewhere, when Queen played Hyde park, Freddie didn't have the same ability that came later. If you watch AL he has some degree of control and showmanship in Chicago. [/QUOTE]
If we want to talk numbers, ok, fine. How many people attended the Hyde Park, and how many in Chicago? What do you mean by "control"? Well at least you've said "some degree" and not "full control"... and for a band to have a large audience like Queen had for a lot of its career (the Morumbi stadium and Rock in Rio and Knebworth were audience records for a while...) it first must caught attention of these people by doing something these 10k/50k/100k people like to see. I doubt that Adam could have a concert of his own - not festivals! - that could gather that many people, just for him, as talented as he might be, as much showmanship as he might have.
The first video I watched of Chicago (out of curiosity, I must confess - I was actually looking forward to see the Live Kills performance) was some test of the live feed, which captures the 3 or so minutes before the concert. The first thing that caught my attention was the size of the venue and the size of the stage itself. I was like "wow it's really downsized". Then I saw some videos and immediately realized why.
Lambert is just a fabricated "idol" (pun intended), he learned most of his business while in the eye of the hurricane. Does he have (some) talent? Maybe. Does he have a good voice? For certain things, yes (Broadway, perhaps?). But worse than the guy can be are his fans attitudes, trying to justificate anything with "he is the best" or "Freddie was gay too" comments inserted into random statements. Can't they just accept that most of us Queen fans are saying is that he (like anybody else) isn't the right guy for Queen and it is looking like a pastiche? Let him show his talent, but not in Queen, please. It's not a test lab.
Doga · Member since
This is boring. Now i want to know who will win in a fight between Godzilla and Predator.
Discuss.
matt z · Member since
Predator had a space machine, countless numbers of weapons and military experience; supposing s/he also had plated armor when going into battle and a knowledge of the terrain, I believe predator would have a good chance of outwitting a giant lizard brain with predatory instinct rather than tactical intelligence.
You must also factor in a method of piercing Godzilla 's thick reptilian skin.
Supposing predator could administer a serum or agent to induce a heart attack, my money is on Predator. .. But ONLY if it's unrestricted terrain.
The downfall of Predator would be one swift hit, kick, or fire breath. It's agility and brains versus enormous power.
Still placing my bet on Predator. ..
But of course I have no way to properly justificate my assessment of the contest
Something else to keep in mind. To my knowledge, Godzilla has no proper way to defend against a creature that would take refuge on its head. Tiny arms, slow pace. .... I suppose it could try to roll on the ground or run it's head through a building, or take a deep sea dive.
gerry · Member since
Marcus: yeah you hit the nail on the head.
Lambert does have a good voice but maybe in a production in the west end of London, not in the world stadiums with Queen pleeeeeeeeeze.
The sooner this crap tour is over the better as far as i am concerned.
