"Freddie is irreplaceable, but Q+PR were great! Q+AL are disaster. :("
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someonewholikesadam
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someonewholikesadam
[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
How is that, in anyone mind synthetic?
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Synthetic in the sense that although Lambert hits the notes, he lacks (most importantly) depth to his voice, or the right tone. Not rock n roll. Cabaret.
Here's a comparison for everyone reading to make.
Another example of a voice that sounds far more suited to a rock number like Stone Cold Crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY05WFFvovU
Now compare that to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT43MOKsN-M
The first version, I can imagine blasting out in a car, the other, would be an embarrassment. It might sound alright in the arena or whatever at the time, but take a step back, and it's seriously lackluster. Not the case with the first version.
Sure, in the absence of Freddie, Lambert's voice is a way for people to hear Queen songs live again,. But that's all. Nothing more, nothing less.
And as you brought it up, some of those songs have been done better by other performers. My example there being just one.[/QUOTE]
Tried to be objective. Listened to both. Hetfield has a gruffer voice for sure. I still prefer AL. But to be fair, for me it not JUST about the voice. Lambert looks better, is a better all-around showman AND has an amazing voice. In my opinion.
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
How is that, in anyone mind synthetic?
[/QUOTE]
Synthetic in the sense that although Lambert hits the notes, he lacks (most importantly) depth to his voice, or the right tone. Not rock n roll. Cabaret.
Here's a comparison for everyone reading to make.
Another example of a voice that sounds far more suited to a rock number like Stone Cold Crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY05WFFvovU
Now compare that to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT43MOKsN-M
The first version, I can imagine blasting out in a car, the other, would be an embarrassment. It might sound alright in the arena or whatever at the time, but take a step back, and it's seriously lackluster. Not the case with the first version.
Sure, in the absence of Freddie, Lambert's voice is a way for people to hear Queen songs live again,. But that's all. Nothing more, nothing less.
And as you brought it up, some of those songs have been done better by other performers. My example there being just one.[/QUOTE]
Tried to be objective. Listened to both. Hetfield has a gruffer voice for sure. I still prefer AL. But to be fair, for me it not JUST about the voice. Lambert looks better, is a better all-around showman AND has an amazing voice. In my opinion.
Sheer Brass Neck
Since we're cherry picking, or shooting fish in a barrel, here is a review of the Vancouver show that isn't mean but also not flattering to Adam, and it's published online so that must mean the person is important :)
"Freddie Mercury is a hard act to follow, there’s no doubt about that. The Queen frontman possessed one of the greatest voices in rock, and anyone who’s seen him live at his peak in the seventies can testify that he was a truly riveting performer. Mercury’s death from AIDS in 1991, at the age of 45, didn’t stop Queen from touring, but it took them a while to get back on track. It wasn’t until 2005 that the band ventured out again as Queen + Paul Rodgers, with the former singer from Free, Bad Company, and the Firm joining Queen guitarist Brian May and drummer Roger Taylor on stage (Queen bassist John Deacon opted out of the gig). Now May and Taylor have recruited a frontman exactly half Rodgers’ age–32-year-old American Idol runner-up Adam Lambert–to carry on the Queen flame, and judging by his showing at Rogers Arena last night, it wasn’t a bad call.
By the time Queen was halfway through its fourth number, “Fat Bottomed Girls”, [b]it was obvious that Lambert’s vocals lack that special something that made Mercury’s–or even Rodgers’–stand out.[/b] But the openly gay singer’s flamboyant performing style, charming audience interaction, and heavily accessorized glam-rock look went a long way [b]toward making up for the relative blandness of his voice.[/b]
“Whaddya think of the new boy?” asked May after a performance of the 1981 Queen/David Bowie collaboration “Under Pressure”, and the resounding applause made it clear that Lambert had impressed the vast majority of the crowd. [b]Still, whenever Queen brought Mercury’s vocals back via video, as it did briefly on “Love of My Life” and “Bohemian Rhapsody”, you could tell their original crooner was in another league altogether.[/b]
"Freddie Mercury is a hard act to follow, there’s no doubt about that. The Queen frontman possessed one of the greatest voices in rock, and anyone who’s seen him live at his peak in the seventies can testify that he was a truly riveting performer. Mercury’s death from AIDS in 1991, at the age of 45, didn’t stop Queen from touring, but it took them a while to get back on track. It wasn’t until 2005 that the band ventured out again as Queen + Paul Rodgers, with the former singer from Free, Bad Company, and the Firm joining Queen guitarist Brian May and drummer Roger Taylor on stage (Queen bassist John Deacon opted out of the gig). Now May and Taylor have recruited a frontman exactly half Rodgers’ age–32-year-old American Idol runner-up Adam Lambert–to carry on the Queen flame, and judging by his showing at Rogers Arena last night, it wasn’t a bad call.
By the time Queen was halfway through its fourth number, “Fat Bottomed Girls”, [b]it was obvious that Lambert’s vocals lack that special something that made Mercury’s–or even Rodgers’–stand out.[/b] But the openly gay singer’s flamboyant performing style, charming audience interaction, and heavily accessorized glam-rock look went a long way [b]toward making up for the relative blandness of his voice.[/b]
“Whaddya think of the new boy?” asked May after a performance of the 1981 Queen/David Bowie collaboration “Under Pressure”, and the resounding applause made it clear that Lambert had impressed the vast majority of the crowd. [b]Still, whenever Queen brought Mercury’s vocals back via video, as it did briefly on “Love of My Life” and “Bohemian Rhapsody”, you could tell their original crooner was in another league altogether.[/b]
Day dop
[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
How is that, in anyone mind synthetic?
[/QUOTE]
Synthetic in the sense that although Lambert hits the notes, he lacks (most importantly) depth to his voice, or the right tone. Not rock n roll. Cabaret.
Here's a comparison for everyone reading to make.
Another example of a voice that sounds far more suited to a rock number like Stone Cold Crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY05WFFvovU
Now compare that to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT43MOKsN-M
The first version, I can imagine blasting out in a car, the other, would be an embarrassment. It might sound alright in the arena or whatever at the time, but take a step back, and it's seriously lackluster. Not the case with the first version.
Sure, in the absence of Freddie, Lambert's voice is a way for people to hear Queen songs live again,. But that's all. Nothing more, nothing less.
And as you brought it up, some of those songs have been done better by other performers. My example there being just one.[/QUOTE]
Tried to be objective. Listened to both. Hetfield has a gruffer voice for sure. I still prefer AL. But to be fair, for me it not JUST about the voice. Lambert looks better, is a better all-around showman AND has an amazing voice. In my opinion.
[/QUOTE]
I want to re-post this comment to you....
Going by what you've said, It seems as if you're just here (or mainly here) to promote Adam, or to defend him, which is somewhat pointless really.
His performances speak for themselves - people either like those performances if they don't. You can't make people like Lambert's style, or convert those who don't particularly rate him into people who love him fronting the band - the band of which, as you said, Freddie's music didn't appeal to you. Bare in mind they weren't only Freddie's songs, as Freddie wasn't the only songwriter in Queen. Therefore it was Queens music that didn't appeal to you.
This has me wondering why you bother with a Queen forum, instead of a Lambert one. If it's just to promote Lambert and defend him from Queen fans who don't really dig him, then your efforts would most likely only prove to be in vain.
....because I am curious as to why you're on this forum if you're not into Queens music? (and your only interest seems to be promoting AL).
[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
How is that, in anyone mind synthetic?
[/QUOTE]
Synthetic in the sense that although Lambert hits the notes, he lacks (most importantly) depth to his voice, or the right tone. Not rock n roll. Cabaret.
Here's a comparison for everyone reading to make.
Another example of a voice that sounds far more suited to a rock number like Stone Cold Crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY05WFFvovU
Now compare that to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT43MOKsN-M
The first version, I can imagine blasting out in a car, the other, would be an embarrassment. It might sound alright in the arena or whatever at the time, but take a step back, and it's seriously lackluster. Not the case with the first version.
Sure, in the absence of Freddie, Lambert's voice is a way for people to hear Queen songs live again,. But that's all. Nothing more, nothing less.
And as you brought it up, some of those songs have been done better by other performers. My example there being just one.[/QUOTE]
Tried to be objective. Listened to both. Hetfield has a gruffer voice for sure. I still prefer AL. But to be fair, for me it not JUST about the voice. Lambert looks better, is a better all-around showman AND has an amazing voice. In my opinion.
[/QUOTE]
I want to re-post this comment to you....
Going by what you've said, It seems as if you're just here (or mainly here) to promote Adam, or to defend him, which is somewhat pointless really.
His performances speak for themselves - people either like those performances if they don't. You can't make people like Lambert's style, or convert those who don't particularly rate him into people who love him fronting the band - the band of which, as you said, Freddie's music didn't appeal to you. Bare in mind they weren't only Freddie's songs, as Freddie wasn't the only songwriter in Queen. Therefore it was Queens music that didn't appeal to you.
This has me wondering why you bother with a Queen forum, instead of a Lambert one. If it's just to promote Lambert and defend him from Queen fans who don't really dig him, then your efforts would most likely only prove to be in vain.
....because I am curious as to why you're on this forum if you're not into Queens music? (and your only interest seems to be promoting AL).
someonewholikesadam
Dear DAy Drop,
I've explained many times why I came to this Forum in the first place. I think you will note that I am posting in threads that pertain to Adam Lambert. And since my guy and your guys are touring together, there are a lot of subjects to debate. Isn't that what forums are for, debating with other members and posting your point of view?
I've explained many times why I came to this Forum in the first place. I think you will note that I am posting in threads that pertain to Adam Lambert. And since my guy and your guys are touring together, there are a lot of subjects to debate. Isn't that what forums are for, debating with other members and posting your point of view?
thomasquinn 32989
So, translation: yes, someonewholikesadam only comes on here to 'promote' AL.
tcc
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
So, translation: yes, someonewholikesadam only comes on here to 'promote' AL.[/QUOTE]
Therefore, the more we engage with her in conversation, the more chances we will be giving her to promote AL.
So, translation: yes, someonewholikesadam only comes on here to 'promote' AL.[/QUOTE]
Therefore, the more we engage with her in conversation, the more chances we will be giving her to promote AL.
thomasquinn 32989
I'm pretty sure she's not going to convince anyone who isn't convinced already, so as far as I'm concerned her incessant spamming is exactly as annoying as the spamming by kdj2hot and rocknrolllover and of exactly the same nature: Individual With No Life Gets Missionary Zeal But Not Clue.
Day dop
[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
Dear DAy Drop,
I've explained many times why I came to this Forum in the first place. I think you will note that I am posting in threads that pertain to Adam Lambert. And since my guy and your guys are touring together, there are a lot of subjects to debate. Isn't that what forums are for, debating with other members and posting your point of view? [/QUOTE]
Dear someonewholikesamericanIdolrunnerup
I'm hardly going to go rummaging through the rest of the forum for your comments on the reason you joined it am I? Hence I asked here.
So in other words, yes, you're here just to promote Lambert.
As for "a lot of subjects to debate" in regards to Lambert... If by that you mean you repeating - to paraphrase - "Adam is better than anything ever, nothing compares" whilst hiding behind "Isn't that what forums are for, debating?" is a lot of subjects to debate for you then fine. But it just comes over as irritating, childish and pointless. But I'm sure you already know that.
Dear DAy Drop,
I've explained many times why I came to this Forum in the first place. I think you will note that I am posting in threads that pertain to Adam Lambert. And since my guy and your guys are touring together, there are a lot of subjects to debate. Isn't that what forums are for, debating with other members and posting your point of view? [/QUOTE]
Dear someonewholikesamericanIdolrunnerup
I'm hardly going to go rummaging through the rest of the forum for your comments on the reason you joined it am I? Hence I asked here.
So in other words, yes, you're here just to promote Lambert.
As for "a lot of subjects to debate" in regards to Lambert... If by that you mean you repeating - to paraphrase - "Adam is better than anything ever, nothing compares" whilst hiding behind "Isn't that what forums are for, debating?" is a lot of subjects to debate for you then fine. But it just comes over as irritating, childish and pointless. But I'm sure you already know that.
thomasquinn 32989
That aside, I don't see any debate taking place. I see people yelling "Adam Lambert is the best thing ever, and if you don't think so you're a homophobe nazi music hater" and other people yelling "Adam Lambert is Satan's tone-deaf cousin", which is occasionally funny, but not a debate. To be honest, I don't think there's much to debate myself so I don't go any further than posting my opinion on Q+AL (waste of time and money for the audience, waste of time that could be spent on excellent products like Hammersmith '74 for the band) either. Still, that's not a debate.
I won't go into the misuse of the word 'debate' where 'discussion' is meant.
I won't go into the misuse of the word 'debate' where 'discussion' is meant.
Doga
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
I don't go any further than posting my opinion on Q+AL (waste of time and money for the audience, waste of time that could be spent on excellent products like Hammersmith '74 for the band) either..[/QUOTE]
That is really interesting, sometimes things are not white or black, i think Adam is an excellent singer, but yeah, i prefer the release of the Blurays of Earls Court and Houston rather than a tour of which won't see a single show due geographical distance. (and they're releasing Rainbow)
But these people attending the shows seem really happy about it, and maybe is true Queen music is reaching new audiences.
And more important, this tour is what Brian and Roger want to do, maybe they can't live without the adrenaline of playing in front of an audience, or they really like the life on the road, anyway is their decision.
After 1991 they could easily said: All right, fuck off! And spend the rest of their lives drunk or high in party after party. They decided to stay in music busisness and release Made in Heaven and a lot of live albums
I don't go any further than posting my opinion on Q+AL (waste of time and money for the audience, waste of time that could be spent on excellent products like Hammersmith '74 for the band) either..[/QUOTE]
That is really interesting, sometimes things are not white or black, i think Adam is an excellent singer, but yeah, i prefer the release of the Blurays of Earls Court and Houston rather than a tour of which won't see a single show due geographical distance. (and they're releasing Rainbow)
But these people attending the shows seem really happy about it, and maybe is true Queen music is reaching new audiences.
And more important, this tour is what Brian and Roger want to do, maybe they can't live without the adrenaline of playing in front of an audience, or they really like the life on the road, anyway is their decision.
After 1991 they could easily said: All right, fuck off! And spend the rest of their lives drunk or high in party after party. They decided to stay in music busisness and release Made in Heaven and a lot of live albums
Zamidoo
[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
Dear DAy Drop,
I've explained many times why I came to this Forum in the first place. I think you will note that I am posting in threads that pertain to Adam Lambert. And since my guy and your guys are touring together, there are a lot of subjects to debate. Isn't that what forums are for, debating with other members and posting your point of view? [/QUOTE]
What about the thread you posted in, titled, 'What's all the hype about Freddie Mercury's voice' or something like that, by the vocal student who was learning'Friends will be friends' and had only watched it live at Wembley when Freddie was suffering from a bad cold? You butted in with a video of Adam Lambert there, and the thread had nothing to do with him. Someone said 'Oh, FFS!' to you, and you pretended not to know what it meant, but for them to have that level of frustration with you, it couldn't have been the first time. So what you're saying above just isn't true.
Dear DAy Drop,
I've explained many times why I came to this Forum in the first place. I think you will note that I am posting in threads that pertain to Adam Lambert. And since my guy and your guys are touring together, there are a lot of subjects to debate. Isn't that what forums are for, debating with other members and posting your point of view? [/QUOTE]
What about the thread you posted in, titled, 'What's all the hype about Freddie Mercury's voice' or something like that, by the vocal student who was learning'Friends will be friends' and had only watched it live at Wembley when Freddie was suffering from a bad cold? You butted in with a video of Adam Lambert there, and the thread had nothing to do with him. Someone said 'Oh, FFS!' to you, and you pretended not to know what it meant, but for them to have that level of frustration with you, it couldn't have been the first time. So what you're saying above just isn't true.
Day dop
It's a shame to see troll-like behaviour on this forum.
someonewholikesadam
I love Brian May!
Recent Twitter conversation:
Queen Fan: Why Adam Lambert??? He is a bad parody of Freddie!!
Brian May: You're an idiot and very insulting. Bye. Bri
Recent Twitter conversation:
Queen Fan: Why Adam Lambert??? He is a bad parody of Freddie!!
Brian May: You're an idiot and very insulting. Bye. Bri
Doga
Indeed, fans can be obnoxious sometimes.
Not just as fans, simply as human beigns they should respect the right to freedom everyone have (or must have).
If Brian and Roger want to perform with Adam, let them. The ones who think this is bad, stupid... simply don't go to the shows. Is as easy as that.
As far as i saw in YT the gigs are really fun, and soon i will have Rainbow in my hands. Don't understand why people complain.
Not just as fans, simply as human beigns they should respect the right to freedom everyone have (or must have).
If Brian and Roger want to perform with Adam, let them. The ones who think this is bad, stupid... simply don't go to the shows. Is as easy as that.
As far as i saw in YT the gigs are really fun, and soon i will have Rainbow in my hands. Don't understand why people complain.