This is sooo saaad (aka another Queen+Lambert-bashing thread)

The mix is bad, but it's only a youtube clip, not a dvd release...

Adam does a good job in this song, I think, as has already been said that the song is slow becasue Roger can't play it fast. Perhaps the song is not so good as it was, but for me it's not a very important thing, they're old, and I thank theme to still do gigs, because I love them and their music.

I know that my English is not perfect :) but I hope you have understood me.

Tony
http://tonyinviaggio.wordpress.com/

[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]tcc wrote:[/b]

If you look at the length of the clips, Freddie's version is 2.01 whereas Adam's version is 2.47. There is definitely a difference in speed.[/QUOTE]


The faster they have ever played this song was in 1977. But people complaining about this new version speed, and saying they are waiting for the Rainbow release, when in fact the Rainbow version of this song is about the same speed as the new Queen+Adam Lambert version, doesn´t make much sense to me.

Having said this, i agree with the fact the the sound mix of the video is not to my taste. Brian´s guitar should be louder, like it was in the arena judging by all the videos.

Just to see my beloved band sounding like this in 2014 makes me so happy.[/QUOTE]

Is there a like button?

I was just thinking the very same thing, Mr Queen Fan.

faster or slower than the old version, i don't like it at all.
The only good thing about it, is, that is promoting the release of the Rainbow 74 DVD, which is actually superb news to hear that they are working on it.

Looking forward to that release!!!

[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
Oh, come on. They're not that much different. You just want something to complain about.
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Are you serious?

You SERIOUSLY don't hear the differences? They play it almost half as slow as it should be! Roger's drumming is horrible, and even when he's this slow he looks like he needs a rest because it's too damn fast for him. Brian plays something completely different during the instrumental part, something which has nothing to do with SCC! Yes, I hate when guitar players improvise in inappropriate parts of the songs. The mix is bad - the bass is too loud, we all agree on that.

Adam's vocal delivery is surprisingly the best thing on this performance, which is to be honest a shock for me.

And the overall impression...

I have now watched both performances. When I was watching he Houston version, after a few seconds I started to "drum" with my fingers on my desk. My heart started to beat faster. I would probably start headbanging if I was here alone :) Then came the new version, and suddenly I wanted to sleep.

Seriously guys. You can't just take a fast paced heavy metal song and turn it into a slow jazzy number. You can't take a fast upbeat pop song with a great rock potential and turn it into a slow acoustic ballad. IT DOESN'T WORK!!!

Of course, there will always be a part of population which likes these sort of things. I mean there are people who like the Star Wars special editions, or DVD editions, or even the horrible Bluray editions. There are even people who like the Star Wars prequels. Or the new Star Trek movies. There are people who like the Twilight books or like listen to Miley Cyrus.

But there are also people who prefer quality. And it's sad they're becoming a minority :-( That's the correct word - sadness. That's the main feeling which I have all the time I watch Brian, Roger and Adam TRYING to perform together.

I don't WANT to be negative. I really, really want to LIKE what they do. That's the reason why I keep returning back to this tribute band. But I just can't. There are MOMENTS I ALMOST enjoy, but most of it I have the same feeling like I'm watching an Adam Sandler movie - I feel I'm watching something embarrassingly bad and I feel so sad about it.

Rant off.
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I understand your disappointment, but I don't share your pain. The song IS played too slow and the mix is bass-heavy and low on guitar, but it's nothing they can't fix with a solid evaluation and subsequent adjustments. I still prefer to think they played it this way by choice, and not because they can't do it properly anymore. Let's reserve judgement until halfway through the tour.

Oh, come on, now, all you bashers...."get a life"!! .... I was at the Winnipeg show(where this clip is from) and thought it was fantastic...BEST damn Rock concert I've ever been at!! It was only the second show of this tour, and was so awesome, I can only see it getting better, and better.....Stone Cold Crazy sounded great to me...and how fast do all you negative ninnies want it to be, for goodness!?! ...Roger and Brian are in their mid-to-late 60's, it's not like they can run, jump, and play like twenty year olds, although that solo Brian did left me in in awe, amazed that he could do that..incredible, it was! ...and Adam? Well, he's got one of the greatest voices in the world. I think he's doing a superb job

...it appears that some of you are only happy if everyone else fails at what they set out to do. You hope that no one succeeds at anything...perhaps because you are miserable and unhappy yourself, and want everyone else to mire in the mud with you?

Hey Judi, don't make it bad - take a sad bunch, and make them better; remember, don't let them under your skin - then you'll begin to make them better......

Sounds like you've been waitin' in the wings to get that off yer chest.

What a load of bollocks.

[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] Oh, come on, now, all you bashers...."get a life"!! .... I was at the Winnipeg show(where this clip is from) and thought it was fantastic...BEST damn Rock concert I've ever been at!! It was only the second show of this tour, and was so awesome, I can only see it getting better, and better.....Stone Cold Crazy sounded great to me...and how fast do all you negative ninnies want it to be, for goodness!?! ...Roger and Brian are in their mid-to-late 60's, it's not like they can run, jump, and play like twenty year olds, although that solo Brian did left me in in awe, amazed that he could do that..incredible, it was! ...and Adam? Well, he's got one of the greatest voices in the world. I think he's doing a superb job

...it appears that some of you are only happy if everyone else fails at what they set out to do. You hope that no one succeeds at anything...perhaps because you are miserable and unhappy yourself, and want everyone else to mire in the mud with you?[/QUOTE]


This bit...

[QUOTE] ...and Adam? Well, he's got one of the greatest voices in the world. [/QUOTE]


I guess anyone having a difference of opinion would be considered a negative person, right? They'd obviously be miserable and unhappy and lots of other terribly negative things.

Do you think it's better if people with differing views to yours keep quiet about what they really think? Because this forum is all about your opinion only (and those who agree with you, naturally).

Or not?

Why is everyone moaning about the mix? It's clearly just a live soundboard mix down, perhaps even specifically for the purposes of hearing the bass - I think it's good of them to out it out there. I actually enjoyed hearing how bang on the money Neil is - really precise and tight.

The biggest sadness for me is Roger's bass drum work which missed out half the beats, and does what he has tended to do for several years now, which is overhit on some beats whilst barely feathering the pedal on others; they seriously need to get some good compression going on him!!

[QUOTE] [b]rocknrolllover wrote:[/b]

I wonder why they Tim Staffell not invited.[/QUOTE]

They should've had him on bass, with Adam Lambert that would've been an interesting band.

They have to be a real band tho when or if they record that includes fighting and bickering over things to make the best album they could possibly make.

For fucks sake you moaning fuckers ! Some of you would still not be satisfed if Freddie came back from the dead ,John returned on bass and Queen were the number one band on the planet.I have never heard such negative comments, i am quite sure some of you think that you can play the guitar and drums like Brian and Roger and of course know all about putting on stage shows and working in studios.Be happy for what we have,if you dont like it piss off and join James Blunts Fan Club !!

By the way, not going to complain about the mix. They seem to upload videos from the tour on the next day after performance, so they probably just don't have time to do the proper mix. Maybe it's not to someone's taste, but it's still good to get the pro-shot right after the show and not waiting for a DVD release. (and i'm not going to wait for any Queen+AL releases, and i won't waste any money on it)

I have to say that Neil does a great job! I've also noticed that on this tour he has a mic at the front of stage, and he moves on stage, not like Danny Miranda, who was at his place for almost the whole show. Does it mean that Brian and Roger started to give some freedom to him? Do they let their touring musician come out of the shadow?

[QUOTE] [b]philip storey wrote:[/b]

For fucks sake you moaning fuckers ! Some of you would still not be satisfed if Freddie came back from the dead ,John returned on bass and Queen were the number one band on the planet.I have never heard such negative comments, i am quite sure some of you think that you can play the guitar and drums like Brian and Roger and of course know all about putting on stage shows and working in studios.Be happy for what we have,if you dont like it piss off and join James Blunts Fan Club !![/QUOTE]

So if you can't play an instrument, you shouldn't have an opinion on musicians or their playing?

Again, it's quite something that life-long Queen fans aren't able to comment their honest opinion (on a Queen forum of all places!) about a pop idol contestant fronting 50% of the band they've followed for years, without being told they should piss off to a different forum.

You'd expect that kind of mentality from 14 year old Lambert fans - "Praise or shut up" - but not from fans of Queen, or at least, not on a forum like this where everything to do with Queen is supposed to be open for discussion, no matter what your take on it.

Personally, I'm not opposed to what May/Taylor/Lambert are currently doing. I saw them in 2012, and I found it to be enjoyable.
What I am opposed to, is the notion that people should piss off, go elsewhere, simply for stating their honest view.

[QUOTE] [b]philip storey wrote:[/b]

i am quite sure some of you think that you can play the guitar and drums like Brian and Roger and of course know all about putting on stage shows and working in studios.[/QUOTE]

That's a strange thing to say.

Incidentally, the topic of the thread was an invitation to be negative about Queen+Lambert, so people may have come to it deliberately looking for negatives rather than positives.

It's just a discussion.