This is sooo saaad (aka another Queen+Lambert-bashing thread)
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someonewholikesadam · Member since
How do you KNOW they are not a minority?
Day dop · Member since
I said it appears that way, for the reasons I've mentioned.
But let's go with the notion for a sec that they're not a minority. It'd still be far from an overwhelming minority.
The comments are a regularity. Hence Adam previously said about those who don't like the idea of him fronting the band "Don't come."
And they're not. But you can't stop people commenting their opinions.
pittrek · Member since
Listening to Chicago right now and I actually enjoy it so far. Looks like QPL simply chose a bad performance for the promotion.
BTW did somebody download the SCC video before it was removed? I wanted to download it and I found out it's gone
Daniel Nester · Member since
Well, that was a thread.
Marcos Napier · Member since
I found it's pointless to say anything bad about AL (it was already with Paul), it's not even funny anymore to read his fans' praises, they are too repetitive. Roger and Brian, as good old citizens as they are, will keep being stubborn. I am going to save this Houston video to clean my ears and eyes for anytime I am forced to watch anything of the new "Queen Pastiche '14 Tour".
Togg · Member since
I'm not sure the age of you guys, but it does make me laugh reading this, from 1975 when I first became a real fan people have been saying the same shit about the band, NOTW wasn't ANATO, JAZZ was hated, The Game was a greatest hits and everybody hated CLTCL... and I cant even begin to talk about Hot Space.... The fundamental thing about Queen is that they have ALWAYS done what THEY wanted to and pushed boundaries. Can you imagine what people said when Mercury went from leotards to Leather....so called fans people hated it. Most people recognise that Hot Space was a shock but the fact is ever since ANATO people wanted them to do the same thing over and over, missing the fundamental spirit of the band. All this is just a repeat of the PR bashing that went on, and demonstrates most bedroom critics lack of knowledge of the band and lack of musical experience or knowledge.
The fact is they are putting on a great show, yes it NOT Freddie.... boring, and yes some tracks are .... wait for it a different version....wow, but I would say it's VERY much the spirit of QUEEN.
BTW I'm not a fan of the way Lambert sings some of the stuff, but that doenst mean I dont think he does a great job on others, and I'm old enough to appreciate what he is doing overall.
terraj · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
Listening to Chicago right now and I actually enjoy it so far. Looks like QPL simply chose a bad performance for the promotion.
BTW did somebody download the SCC video before it was removed? I wanted to download it and I found out it's gone[/QUOTE]
I uploaded it here
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
But show me a negative comment from someone who's actually been to a show.[/QUOTE]
^ this.
As I walked out of the arena, people were blown away.[/QUOTE]
Audiences also leave Miley Cyrus-concerts happy. They used to leave 5ive concerts happy. That doesn't mean those acts aren't/weren't utter crap.
Not saying Q+AL falls in *that* category, but this kind of populist argument just makes no sense. You have to come up with a pretty damn awful band for there not to be an audience that will enjoy the show. The very fact that people attend the show already means that they are statistically much more likely to go away from it with a positive impression than people who don't attend. Saying that a concert demonstrates the quality of a band because the audience goes away happy is like saying a GOP caucus shows that their politics are universally approved because the people at the caucus all seemed very happy about the presented policies.
someonewholikesadam · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
But show me a negative comment from someone who's actually been to a show.[/QUOTE]
^ this.
As I walked out of the arena, people were blown away.[/QUOTE]
Audiences also leave Miley Cyrus-concerts happy. They used to leave 5ive concerts happy. That doesn't mean those acts aren't/weren't utter crap.
Not saying Q+AL falls in *that* category, but this kind of populist argument just makes no sense. You have to come up with a pretty damn awful band for there not to be an audience that will enjoy the show. The very fact that people attend the show already means that they are statistically much more likely to go away from it with a positive impression than people who don't attend. Saying that a concert demonstrates the quality of a band because the audience goes away happy is like saying a GOP caucus shows that their politics are universally approved because the people at the caucus all seemed very happy about the presented policies.[/QUOTE]
That is such a crap argument. Have you BEEN to concerts? I've been to plenty and I don't always leave "happy."
luthorn · Member since
A decent ticket in Toronto for this concert is $150 a pop, a bit much given only 50% of the original band is playing. I can pay this much for Muse, but even their ticket was cheaper.
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
But show me a negative comment from someone who's actually been to a show.[/QUOTE]
^ this.
As I walked out of the arena, people were blown away.[/QUOTE]
Audiences also leave Miley Cyrus-concerts happy. They used to leave 5ive concerts happy. That doesn't mean those acts aren't/weren't utter crap.
Not saying Q+AL falls in *that* category, but this kind of populist argument just makes no sense. You have to come up with a pretty damn awful band for there not to be an audience that will enjoy the show. The very fact that people attend the show already means that they are statistically much more likely to go away from it with a positive impression than people who don't attend. Saying that a concert demonstrates the quality of a band because the audience goes away happy is like saying a GOP caucus shows that their politics are universally approved because the people at the caucus all seemed very happy about the presented policies.[/QUOTE]
That is such a crap argument. Have you BEEN to concerts? I've been to plenty and I don't always leave "happy."
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Yes, I've been to a number of concerts, and like most people, I'm only willing to pay upwards of $/€ 40,-, let alone upwards of $/€ 100,- to see a band if I'm pretty damn sure in advance that it's going to be something I enjoy.
You don't have a problem with the argument, which you don't even address in your 'complaint', you've got a problem with the conclusion you assume I am implying, namely that Q+AL is no good. While that is my personal opinion, it is in no way a necessary or even reasonable conclusion to draw from my critique of Bob's argument. I merely point out that the appreciation of an audience that has had to pay extortionate rates for their tickets is unsurprising and doesn't necessarily say anything about the qualities of the artist performing.
Day dop · Member since
To me, in general, it seems there's people who mostly fall into one of three categories....
1) Those who think Adam Lambert is complete and utter crap, and they're opposed to the tour.
2) Those who don't happen to think Lambert is the greatest thing ever - he's no Freddie, but he does the job, and they're not opposed to the tour.
3) Those who do think Adam is brilliant, and want the people in category 1 and 2 to shut up, especially those in category 1.
luthorn · Member since
When I look at tickemaster for Toronto tickets, many people fall in category 3 @day dop since the shows are full. However, being a purist and finding the tickets much too over priced I fall into 2ish category. There are a lot better bands that do shows for a better value for money: Muse, Stereophonics, Queens of the Stone Age are just a few bands I saw in Toronto at a better value for money metric.
Day dop · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]luthorn wrote:[/b]
When I look at tickemaster for Toronto tickets, many people fall in category 3 @day dop since the shows are full. However, being a purist and finding the tickets much too over priced I fall into 2ish category. There are a lot better bands that do shows for a better value for money: Muse, Stereophonics, Queens of the Stone Age are just a few bands I saw in Toronto at a better value for money metric. [/QUOTE]
I fall into the second category myself, as I said earlier, I saw the show and enjoyed it. But that was mainly for Brian and Roger.