Day dop
I think you might've been right on your other comment - they realised the mix didn't sound that great.
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someonewholikesadam
I do use facebook and I've seen the comments. But show me a negative comment from someone who's actually been to a show. And I contend the naysayers are still in the minority.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
But show me a negative comment from someone who's actually been to a show.[/QUOTE]
^ this.
As I walked out of the arena, people were blown away.
But show me a negative comment from someone who's actually been to a show.[/QUOTE]
^ this.
As I walked out of the arena, people were blown away.
pittrek
Guys, that makes no sense. If I was on the show, I would probably like it because
a) I would be drunk
b) I would be blown away by the fact that I see Brian & Roger playing again
Seeing/listening to a RECORDING of a concert gives you the freedom to be objective.
What was I trying say with this thread was that IN MY PERSONAL OPINION (which may be different from yours)
- Brian and Roger are too old to play live, they should either rehearse for at least a month more until they sound like Queen again, or they should do an acoustic ballad tour, or they shouldn't be touring at all
- Adam was a horrible choice for singing Queen songs, but he's getting BETTER AND BETTER, he's learning a lot and there's a pretty good chance that in a year or two he will be REALLY GOOD
- the best parts of the concerts I've heard till now are actually the instrumental parts, the bass solo is amazing and fresh, the drum duel is full of energy and Brian's solo is wonderful as always. But as soon as they start to do a real song, they change again into a bad cover band
WHY did I start this thread?
- Because I was bored
- because I was shocked in a negative way by what I've seen on Youtube
- because I was shocked by all the positive posts/threads both here and on various other websites, I seriously don't know when people are sarcastic and when they are real.
Again, my posts here are my personal opinions, yours may be different, that's NORMAL and I don't see a reason why to insult or attack each other - if "I" did so in any of my previous posts, I'm sorry
a) I would be drunk
b) I would be blown away by the fact that I see Brian & Roger playing again
Seeing/listening to a RECORDING of a concert gives you the freedom to be objective.
What was I trying say with this thread was that IN MY PERSONAL OPINION (which may be different from yours)
- Brian and Roger are too old to play live, they should either rehearse for at least a month more until they sound like Queen again, or they should do an acoustic ballad tour, or they shouldn't be touring at all
- Adam was a horrible choice for singing Queen songs, but he's getting BETTER AND BETTER, he's learning a lot and there's a pretty good chance that in a year or two he will be REALLY GOOD
- the best parts of the concerts I've heard till now are actually the instrumental parts, the bass solo is amazing and fresh, the drum duel is full of energy and Brian's solo is wonderful as always. But as soon as they start to do a real song, they change again into a bad cover band
WHY did I start this thread?
- Because I was bored
- because I was shocked in a negative way by what I've seen on Youtube
- because I was shocked by all the positive posts/threads both here and on various other websites, I seriously don't know when people are sarcastic and when they are real.
Again, my posts here are my personal opinions, yours may be different, that's NORMAL and I don't see a reason why to insult or attack each other - if "I" did so in any of my previous posts, I'm sorry
Togg
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, however what I hate are the folk that bash for the sake of it because it's not Freddie...get over it, but constructive comments positive or negative when genuine understanding of what people are hearing and the constraints of youtube vs live are fine.
I agree some of the power is missing on some tracks, yet some of the more traditional 'Queen' tracks like killer Queen seem to suit Lamberts style better, I couldn't see Rogers singing that at all...
It does go to show what a stand out singer Mercury was that's for sure.
But at the end of the day, it's Brian and Roger playing live one a world tour with all the gear for probably one last time, so I for one will enjoy every moment of it. nearly 40 years of being a Queen fan isnt going to stop now!
I agree some of the power is missing on some tracks, yet some of the more traditional 'Queen' tracks like killer Queen seem to suit Lamberts style better, I couldn't see Rogers singing that at all...
It does go to show what a stand out singer Mercury was that's for sure.
But at the end of the day, it's Brian and Roger playing live one a world tour with all the gear for probably one last time, so I for one will enjoy every moment of it. nearly 40 years of being a Queen fan isnt going to stop now!
Marknow
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
But show me a negative comment from someone who's actually been to a show.[/QUOTE]
^ this.
As I walked out of the arena, people were blown away.[/QUOTE]
That is the whole point I think, the audiences seem to be really enjoying the show.
[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
But show me a negative comment from someone who's actually been to a show.[/QUOTE]
^ this.
As I walked out of the arena, people were blown away.[/QUOTE]
That is the whole point I think, the audiences seem to be really enjoying the show.
Marknow
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[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] But now I have come to realize that you naysayers on this forum are in the GREAT minority. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
[/QUOTE] Yeah that is a point people seem to be forgetting. I reckon there are about 40 people on here that hate the new tour or Adam. Queenzone has an average of 4000 unique users per month so the people who are oh so disgusted with the tour or Adam represent 1% of queenzone.com users.
I'm open to correction on my numbers but I reckon I am not too far off.
[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] But now I have come to realize that you naysayers on this forum are in the GREAT minority. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
[/QUOTE] Yeah that is a point people seem to be forgetting. I reckon there are about 40 people on here that hate the new tour or Adam. Queenzone has an average of 4000 unique users per month so the people who are oh so disgusted with the tour or Adam represent 1% of queenzone.com users.
I'm open to correction on my numbers but I reckon I am not too far off.
Day dop
[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
I do use facebook and I've seen the comments. But show me a negative comment from someone who's actually been to a show. And I contend the naysayers are still in the minority.[/QUOTE]
I've been to the show in 2012. And I consider him a more of a cabaret singer than a rock singer.
Does that count as "negative"? You'd think so by the Lambert fans who can't handle seeing a smidgen of genuine criticism.
I do use facebook and I've seen the comments. But show me a negative comment from someone who's actually been to a show. And I contend the naysayers are still in the minority.[/QUOTE]
I've been to the show in 2012. And I consider him a more of a cabaret singer than a rock singer.
Does that count as "negative"? You'd think so by the Lambert fans who can't handle seeing a smidgen of genuine criticism.
Day dop
[QUOTE] [b]Marknow wrote:[/b]
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[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] But now I have come to realize that you naysayers on this forum are in the GREAT minority. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
[/QUOTE] Yeah that is a point people seem to be forgetting. I reckon there are about 40 people on here that hate the new tour or Adam. Queenzone has an average of 4000 unique users per month so the people who are oh so disgusted with the tour or Adam represent 1% of queenzone.com users.
I'm open to correction on my numbers but I reckon I am not too far off.[/QUOTE]
And how many of those 4000 users log in and write comments on here every month? 4000 non-active users can't really be included in your conjecture can they?
I'd estimate active commenting users wouldn't be much more than 200 a month.
The results of this recent poll could be a pointer to the amount of monthly users. "Would you like to hear a new album Queen with Adam Lambert". The yes votes are in the minority.
I'd say that's a fairly strong indication of general opinion on here when it comes to Lambert.
http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx
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[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] But now I have come to realize that you naysayers on this forum are in the GREAT minority. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
[/QUOTE] Yeah that is a point people seem to be forgetting. I reckon there are about 40 people on here that hate the new tour or Adam. Queenzone has an average of 4000 unique users per month so the people who are oh so disgusted with the tour or Adam represent 1% of queenzone.com users.
I'm open to correction on my numbers but I reckon I am not too far off.[/QUOTE]
And how many of those 4000 users log in and write comments on here every month? 4000 non-active users can't really be included in your conjecture can they?
I'd estimate active commenting users wouldn't be much more than 200 a month.
The results of this recent poll could be a pointer to the amount of monthly users. "Would you like to hear a new album Queen with Adam Lambert". The yes votes are in the minority.
I'd say that's a fairly strong indication of general opinion on here when it comes to Lambert.
http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx
Marknow
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[b]Day dop wrote: [/b]
And how many of those 4000 users log in and write comments on here every month? 4000 non-active users can't really be included in your conjecture can they?
I'd estimate active commenting users wouldn't be much more than 200 a month.
The results of this recent poll could be a pointer to the amount of monthly users. "Would you like to hear a new album Queen with Adam Lambert". The yes votes are in the minority. I'd say that's a fairly strong indication of general opinion when it comes to Lambert.
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx[/url]
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We will have to agree to disagree on the validity of the actual numbers, It is safe to say that the negative folk are certainly in a vast minority here.
You see the same people starting negative threads and turning threads that have nothing to with Lambert or the tour into anti tour/Lambert discussions. The same people every day moaning about Lambert and the tour, It's like they have Tourette syndrome or something.
The poll link you posted above is not really valid in this discussion, touring is one thing an album is another, I would not like to see a new album featuring A.L either, I would go to see them live though.
I like Adam because he has a decent voice and he seems like an incredibly nice bloke, I think it is great that he has stepped into the spotlight and helped the music of Queen to be heard in a live setting once more, I couldnt name one of his songs or his albums because I do not give a fuck about his solo career. I do think what he is doing for Brian & Roger & queen fans is great though.
When the dust settles on this tour in the winter nearly 400,000 people will have gone to the concerts, most of them having a great time. If the tour comes to London or Europe I will catch a few shows like I have done in the past, not to see A.L but to see Brian & Roger maybe one last time.
I know in ten years time when I look back I'll be happy I went to see a great show with Brian & Roger playing Queen songs rather than looking back saying I didn't bother going because I didn't like the dude on vocals, you don't have to like him to be into what they do in a live concert.
[b]Day dop wrote: [/b]
And how many of those 4000 users log in and write comments on here every month? 4000 non-active users can't really be included in your conjecture can they?
I'd estimate active commenting users wouldn't be much more than 200 a month.
The results of this recent poll could be a pointer to the amount of monthly users. "Would you like to hear a new album Queen with Adam Lambert". The yes votes are in the minority. I'd say that's a fairly strong indication of general opinion when it comes to Lambert.
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx[/url]
[/QUOTE]
We will have to agree to disagree on the validity of the actual numbers, It is safe to say that the negative folk are certainly in a vast minority here.
You see the same people starting negative threads and turning threads that have nothing to with Lambert or the tour into anti tour/Lambert discussions. The same people every day moaning about Lambert and the tour, It's like they have Tourette syndrome or something.
The poll link you posted above is not really valid in this discussion, touring is one thing an album is another, I would not like to see a new album featuring A.L either, I would go to see them live though.
I like Adam because he has a decent voice and he seems like an incredibly nice bloke, I think it is great that he has stepped into the spotlight and helped the music of Queen to be heard in a live setting once more, I couldnt name one of his songs or his albums because I do not give a fuck about his solo career. I do think what he is doing for Brian & Roger & queen fans is great though.
When the dust settles on this tour in the winter nearly 400,000 people will have gone to the concerts, most of them having a great time. If the tour comes to London or Europe I will catch a few shows like I have done in the past, not to see A.L but to see Brian & Roger maybe one last time.
I know in ten years time when I look back I'll be happy I went to see a great show with Brian & Roger playing Queen songs rather than looking back saying I didn't bother going because I didn't like the dude on vocals, you don't have to like him to be into what they do in a live concert.
Day dop
[QUOTE] [b]Marknow wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Day dop wrote: [/b]
And how many of those 4000 users log in and write comments on here every month? 4000 non-active users can't really be included in your conjecture can they?
I'd estimate active commenting users wouldn't be much more than 200 a month.
The results of this recent poll could be a pointer to the amount of monthly users. "Would you like to hear a new album Queen with Adam Lambert". The yes votes are in the minority. I'd say that's a fairly strong indication of general opinion when it comes to Lambert.
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx[/url]
[/QUOTE]
We will have to agree to disagree on the validity of the actual numbers, It is safe to say that the negative folk are certainly in a vast minority here.
You see the same people starting negative threads and turning threads that have nothing to with Lambert or the tour into anti tour/Lambert discussions. The same people every day moaning about Lambert and the tour, It's like they have Tourette syndrome or something.
The poll link you posted above is not really valid in this discussion, touring is one thing an album is another, I would not like to see a new album featuring A.L either, I would go to see them live though.
I like Adam because he has a decent voice and he seems like an incredibly nice bloke, I think it is great that he has stepped into the spotlight and helped the music of Queen to be heard in a live setting once more, I couldnt name one of his songs or his albums because I do not give a fuck about his solo career. I do think what he is doing for Brian & Roger & queen fans is great though.
When the dust settles on this tour in the winter nearly 400,000 people will have gone to the concerts, most of them having a great time. If the tour comes to London or Europe I will catch a few shows like I have done in the past, not to see A.L but to see Brian & Roger maybe one last time.
I know in ten years time when I look back I'll be happy I went to see a great show with Brian & Roger playing Queen songs rather than looking back saying I didn't bother going because I didn't like the dude on vocals, you don't have to like him to be into what they do in a live concert.[/QUOTE]
People who don't dig Adam aren't "negative folk". That's their opinion, not them as people overall.
"It is safe to say that the negative folk are certainly in a vast minority here"
No it's not, and you repeating it more than once doesn't make it any more true.
I said the link is an indicator, which it is. If you've got any counter evidence from this forum to show otherwise, please provide it.
As I said, I've seen the concert myself, i thought it was alright.
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[b]Day dop wrote: [/b]
And how many of those 4000 users log in and write comments on here every month? 4000 non-active users can't really be included in your conjecture can they?
I'd estimate active commenting users wouldn't be much more than 200 a month.
The results of this recent poll could be a pointer to the amount of monthly users. "Would you like to hear a new album Queen with Adam Lambert". The yes votes are in the minority. I'd say that's a fairly strong indication of general opinion when it comes to Lambert.
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx[/url]
[/QUOTE]
We will have to agree to disagree on the validity of the actual numbers, It is safe to say that the negative folk are certainly in a vast minority here.
You see the same people starting negative threads and turning threads that have nothing to with Lambert or the tour into anti tour/Lambert discussions. The same people every day moaning about Lambert and the tour, It's like they have Tourette syndrome or something.
The poll link you posted above is not really valid in this discussion, touring is one thing an album is another, I would not like to see a new album featuring A.L either, I would go to see them live though.
I like Adam because he has a decent voice and he seems like an incredibly nice bloke, I think it is great that he has stepped into the spotlight and helped the music of Queen to be heard in a live setting once more, I couldnt name one of his songs or his albums because I do not give a fuck about his solo career. I do think what he is doing for Brian & Roger & queen fans is great though.
When the dust settles on this tour in the winter nearly 400,000 people will have gone to the concerts, most of them having a great time. If the tour comes to London or Europe I will catch a few shows like I have done in the past, not to see A.L but to see Brian & Roger maybe one last time.
I know in ten years time when I look back I'll be happy I went to see a great show with Brian & Roger playing Queen songs rather than looking back saying I didn't bother going because I didn't like the dude on vocals, you don't have to like him to be into what they do in a live concert.[/QUOTE]
People who don't dig Adam aren't "negative folk". That's their opinion, not them as people overall.
"It is safe to say that the negative folk are certainly in a vast minority here"
No it's not, and you repeating it more than once doesn't make it any more true.
I said the link is an indicator, which it is. If you've got any counter evidence from this forum to show otherwise, please provide it.
As I said, I've seen the concert myself, i thought it was alright.
Marknow
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[b]Day dop wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Marknow wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Day dop wrote: [/b]
And how many of those 4000 users log in and write comments on here every month? 4000 non-active users can't really be included in your conjecture can they?
I'd estimate active commenting users wouldn't be much more than 200 a month.
The results of this recent poll could be a pointer to the amount of monthly users. "Would you like to hear a new album Queen with Adam Lambert". The yes votes are in the minority. I'd say that's a fairly strong indication of general opinion when it comes to Lambert.
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx[/url]
[/QUOTE]
We will have to agree to disagree on the validity of the actual numbers, It is safe to say that the negative folk are certainly in a vast minority here.
You see the same people starting negative threads and turning threads that have nothing to with Lambert or the tour into anti tour/Lambert discussions. The same people every day moaning about Lambert and the tour, It's like they have Tourette syndrome or something.
The poll link you posted above is not really valid in this discussion, touring is one thing an album is another, I would not like to see a new album featuring A.L either, I would go to see them live though.
I like Adam because he has a decent voice and he seems like an incredibly nice bloke, I think it is great that he has stepped into the spotlight and helped the music of Queen to be heard in a live setting once more, I couldnt name one of his songs or his albums because I do not give a fuck about his solo career. I do think what he is doing for Brian & Roger & queen fans is great though.
When the dust settles on this tour in the winter nearly 400,000 people will have gone to the concerts, most of them having a great time. If the tour comes to London or Europe I will catch a few shows like I have done in the past, not to see A.L but to see Brian & Roger maybe one last time.
I know in ten years time when I look back I'll be happy I went to see a great show with Brian & Roger playing Queen songs rather than looking back saying I didn't bother going because I didn't like the dude on vocals, you don't have to like him to be into what they do in a live concert.[/QUOTE]
People who don't dig Adam aren't "negative folk". That's their opinion, not them as people overall.
" It is safe to say that the negative folk are certainly in a vast minority here"
No it's not, and you repeating it more than once doesn't make it any more true.
I said the link is a strong indicator, which it is. If you've got any counter evidence from this forum to show otherwise, please provide it.[/QUOTE]
meh
[b]Day dop wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Marknow wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Day dop wrote: [/b]
And how many of those 4000 users log in and write comments on here every month? 4000 non-active users can't really be included in your conjecture can they?
I'd estimate active commenting users wouldn't be much more than 200 a month.
The results of this recent poll could be a pointer to the amount of monthly users. "Would you like to hear a new album Queen with Adam Lambert". The yes votes are in the minority. I'd say that's a fairly strong indication of general opinion when it comes to Lambert.
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1385632/poll-would-you-like-to-hear-a-new-album-queen-with-adam-lambert.aspx[/url]
[/QUOTE]
We will have to agree to disagree on the validity of the actual numbers, It is safe to say that the negative folk are certainly in a vast minority here.
You see the same people starting negative threads and turning threads that have nothing to with Lambert or the tour into anti tour/Lambert discussions. The same people every day moaning about Lambert and the tour, It's like they have Tourette syndrome or something.
The poll link you posted above is not really valid in this discussion, touring is one thing an album is another, I would not like to see a new album featuring A.L either, I would go to see them live though.
I like Adam because he has a decent voice and he seems like an incredibly nice bloke, I think it is great that he has stepped into the spotlight and helped the music of Queen to be heard in a live setting once more, I couldnt name one of his songs or his albums because I do not give a fuck about his solo career. I do think what he is doing for Brian & Roger & queen fans is great though.
When the dust settles on this tour in the winter nearly 400,000 people will have gone to the concerts, most of them having a great time. If the tour comes to London or Europe I will catch a few shows like I have done in the past, not to see A.L but to see Brian & Roger maybe one last time.
I know in ten years time when I look back I'll be happy I went to see a great show with Brian & Roger playing Queen songs rather than looking back saying I didn't bother going because I didn't like the dude on vocals, you don't have to like him to be into what they do in a live concert.[/QUOTE]
People who don't dig Adam aren't "negative folk". That's their opinion, not them as people overall.
" It is safe to say that the negative folk are certainly in a vast minority here"
No it's not, and you repeating it more than once doesn't make it any more true.
I said the link is a strong indicator, which it is. If you've got any counter evidence from this forum to show otherwise, please provide it.[/QUOTE]
meh
Day dop
[QUOTE]Marknow wrote: meh[/QUOTE]
That's the best you can come up with to back your claim?
Seems legit.
That's the best you can come up with to back your claim?
Seems legit.
Marknow
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[b]Day dop wrote: [/b] [QUOTE]Marknow wrote: meh[/QUOTE]
That's the best you can come up with to back your claim?
Seems legit.
[/QUOTE]
At least I took the time to read your post and give some thought to what you said before responding, did you do the same?
Near sold out concerts, extra dates added to meet demand, touring in 4 countries(so far) VERY positive reviews from media and concert goers, recordings of fans on youtube clapping, singing and roaring appreciation for two hours. All tasteless morons though?
As I said above I'm not a A.L fan, I do not want to see an album with him, but the tour is doing very well, it's making a lot of people very happy. Each to his own though, fair enough if people are not into it.
[b]Day dop wrote: [/b] [QUOTE]Marknow wrote: meh[/QUOTE]
That's the best you can come up with to back your claim?
Seems legit.
[/QUOTE]
At least I took the time to read your post and give some thought to what you said before responding, did you do the same?
Near sold out concerts, extra dates added to meet demand, touring in 4 countries(so far) VERY positive reviews from media and concert goers, recordings of fans on youtube clapping, singing and roaring appreciation for two hours. All tasteless morons though?
As I said above I'm not a A.L fan, I do not want to see an album with him, but the tour is doing very well, it's making a lot of people very happy. Each to his own though, fair enough if people are not into it.
Day dop
[QUOTE] At least I took the time to read your post and give some thought to what you said before responding, did you do the same? .[/QUOTE]
I didn't get that impression from "meh", but yes, I read your comments and thought about what I replied.
[QUOTE] Each to his own though, fair enough if people are not into it.[/QUOTE]
That's been my point all along.
Doesn't mean they should piss off from this forum, or the official Queen fartbook page, or be told they're a minority, when it appears they're not a minority - it's a somewhat mixed bag - and they're not wrong for having their own opinion at all.
I didn't get that impression from "meh", but yes, I read your comments and thought about what I replied.
[QUOTE] Each to his own though, fair enough if people are not into it.[/QUOTE]
That's been my point all along.
Doesn't mean they should piss off from this forum, or the official Queen fartbook page, or be told they're a minority, when it appears they're not a minority - it's a somewhat mixed bag - and they're not wrong for having their own opinion at all.