Apparently criticism served its purpose and......[concerning TMBMTLTT]]

Really ? Only 23 days of September has passed... they have October and 10 days till the day of the release and they're already pressing the cds ?

[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]

The other problem with it, aside from the vocal issues, is that Brian's guitar work is some of his worst. [/QUOTE]

I get the impression this might have been deliberate. After all, THE "QUEEN" mix was said to be more acoustic. It probably retained the damn piano as well.

I think we're hearing a bit of it that Orbit snuck in as a compromise. .. it starts when Michael sings. That's why it's an acoustic guitar.

Either way. .. tragically half assed. The guy doesn't know his FM or MJ from his elbow.


For all we know those Brian bits could be different takes or even PARTIALS from an overdub.

The song repeats the same keys.... wouldn't be hard to do.

I hate criticising people to their face. But damn... it's just a mess

^well a mess from a Queen POV. Either it ought to be big and bombastic or cool and mellow. No in between.

Even a shitty song like Body Language or Staying Power hit a crescendo ..a peak. This is just phoned in.

I have zero knowledge of music but hearing it first time I thought it sounded like Freddies vocals had been turned down and Jacksons voice turned up as it's crystal clear but as stated before there voices just don't sound right together at all it's crap and Love Kills the so called ballad it's only a ballad if Freddie sang it as a ballad like everyone who was waiting to hear it was expecting a completely fresh new song with a different vocal take.

*Deleted double post* :o)

Maybe the finished, more polished final versions are tucked away in a hermatically sealed vault, while these were allowed to be leaked out to get fans input.

I know, I know, I'm giving them all too much credit for being clever.

And wishing too hard in one hand.......

[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
Saw that last night. Some HEAVY criticisms. Unfortunately very few actually discussed what was wrong about it. I read that on his FB page[/QUOTE]

At least I'm among the few that faulted it in detail there :P

It was such a feebly phrased post, not even using full sentences. It'd be preferable if he'd just own his mistake, though I can see how it might be tricky if Jackson's estate have a grip on him in regards to how it should sound.

I like the elaborate, epic instrumentation and specially the Beatlesque coda. If only the vocals weren't such a mess. As appealing as the idea sounds, their voices didn't blend well. Maybe that was part of the reason why this collaboration didn't continue... other than the whole Llama-Cocaine incident... :)

About the 'delayed start' when Michael's vocals first appear, I have to say that I did hear it the first few times and HATED IT.. I was SO MAD... then after a while I guess I got used to it and I no longer hear it, even though I know it's coming.
On a second thought, I think it was a work around to counter for Michael's slightly different phrasing and delivery of the line. If the vocals started a few milliseconds earlier (when we expect them to start, based on Freddie's delivery) maybe the second part would sound off... (?)
I don't know.

If Orbit's post indeed refers to TMBMTLTT, I hope he is indeed balancing the voices (a) FM vs MJ, and (b) all voices versus the other instruments. Even if I like the instrumentation, I hate to see Freddie drowned in the mix!

[QUOTE] [b]MercurialFreddie wrote:[/b]

I'm curious what is Freddie's estate (Mary + Jim Beach and co.) opinion on this. We know for sure that Jim Beach suggested that Brian and Roger should rework Love kills, so basically thanks to him we can hear this new arrangement which was of course also performed during the Q+Al tour. [/QUOTE]

How do you know Jim Beach suggested this?

Brian said that on Chris Evans show that "Jim Beach has said that there's a track which they haven't looked into..."

Which track could this be , Man made paradise?

They should of used Man Made Paradise instead of There Must Be More To Life Than This and not of used Orbit, what would of been a bit interesting if Brian and Roger used Roy Thomas Baker on one or two tracks.

[QUOTE] [b]flash00. wrote:[/b]

They should of used Man Made Paradise instead of There Must Be More To Life Than This and not of used Orbit, what would of been a bit interesting if Brian and Roger used Roy Thomas Baker on one or two tracks. [/QUOTE]

I think Orbit did was involved because the Jackson Estate didnt trusted Queen or wanted the track to sound like a Queen+Michael Jackson track, as if MJ were part of the creative team behind the song. I cant see any other reason for Orbit's presence in just one song.

[QUOTE] [b]winterspelt wrote:[/b]

I think Orbit did was involved because the Jackson Estate didnt trusted Queen or wanted the track to sound like a Queen+Michael Jackson track, as if MJ were part of the creative team behind the song. I cant see any other reason for Orbit's presence in just one song.

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You're probably right... And now that we have the results from QP's serious attempt at duet between Freddie and Michael, it's guaranteed the other recordings will never see the light of day.

I wonder if they scraped the barrels to find this remix, or did they just go with the first one which was offered for free?