I agree with most of what you're saying, but I believe Mother Love was written with Freddie in mind, if indeed it was one of those things frantically written in the late sessions so that Freddie could get it sung while he still had enough strength. Either way, it certainly deals with facing one's own death, which isn't something Brian was writing about otherwise at the time, or ever really, so I think it had to have been at least partially inspired by Freddie's situation.
Zamidoo · Member since
I may be biased because I don't like the song much. But was it written hurriedly at the time, or was it something Brian pulled out from the past? And would it be about death if it weren't for the Freddie link? I'm not saying it isn't - I don't know.
Costa86 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]tomchristie22 wrote:[/b]
I'm referring to the 'montage' ending to Mother Love, glimpsing through Queen's music with audience applause, as well as Going Back, and ending on a baby crying. I can't say I like it at all - it's too self referential, as well as hamfisted. The song is sobering and moving - it speaks perfectly well for itself without the forced sentimentality of the 'retrospective' thing they seemed to be going for with the outro.
Thoughts? Does it have some merit that I'm not giving it credit for? [/QUOTE]
I agree. To me the outro almost ruins the whole atmosphere created by the beautiful song and Freddie's spine-tingling vocals.
The worst part is the baby crying which is such an anti-climax after an emotional song. It has the same effect as when you're looking at beautiful women - Charlize Theron, then onto Scarlett Johansson, then Jennifer Lawrence... then all of a sudden you're shown John Deacon.
tomchristie22 · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Zamidoo wrote: [/b] I may be biased because I don't like the song much. But was it written hurriedly at the time, or was it something Brian pulled out from the past? And would it be about death if it weren't for the Freddie link? I'm not saying it isn't - I don't know.[/QUOTE] Well, the line 'I long for peace before I die' is certainly about being about to die.
The entire last verse also seems to be very much about coming to terms with a painful death - whether this was a coincidence or if Brian wrote it about Freddie, it's hard to say;
'My body's aching, but I can't sleep My dreams are all the company I keep Got such a feeling as the sun goes down...'
Of course, this part is only about death if you take the sun going down as a metaphor, but I certainly believe it's meant as one.
tomchristie22 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
It has the same effect as when you're looking at beautiful women - Charlize Theron, then onto Scarlett Johansson, then Jennifer Lawrence... then all of a sudden you're shown John Deacon.[/QUOTE]
[b]Zamidoo wrote: [/b] I may be biased because I don't like the song much. But was it written hurriedly at the time, or was it something Brian pulled out from the past? And would it be about death if it weren't for the Freddie link? I'm not saying it isn't - I don't know.[/QUOTE]
Well, the line 'I long for peace before I die' is certainly about being about to die.
The entire last verse also seems to be very much about coming to terms with a painful death - whether this was a coincidence or if Brian wrote it about Freddie, it's hard to say;
'My body's aching, but I can't sleep
My dreams are all the company I keep
Got such a feeling as the sun goes down...'
Of course, this part is only about death if you take the sun going down as a metaphor, but I certainly believe it's meant as one.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I agree it does sound that way in the last verse. The 'I long for peace before I die' could go either way - it could be about relief from general torment and suffering at an unspecified point in the future, or imminent death and relief from physical suffering. The last verse never fit with the first verses for me, which really sound like someone in mental torment rather than physical pain. The 'my woman gives me sweet mother love' line also sounds really inappropriate to Freddie's life, unless it's about Mary Austin (would Brian write a song about Freddie's feelings towards Mary?). As I posted once before on a topic here, the first verses sound like a depressed person to me... which is what made me think it might have been a song Brian pulled out from the past and adapted.
Anyway, wherever the song came from, I agree that the montage at the end is heavy-handed and unnecessary.
beemack74 · Member since
I remember when I first heard Mother Love back in 1995, the whole song gave me chills...and the baby crying at the end gave me a big shiver down the spine. The hairs on the back of my neck stood up. So I found it very effective.
I love Made In Heaven as an album. Heaven For Everyone, TMLWKY, A Winters Tale,You Don't Fool Me,Let Me Live...to me, these songs in particular could stand up well on any Queen album. And I strangely love the long piece of music at the end...
Viper · Member since
IMHO, Mother Love is perfect the way it is! A blessing!
The King Of Rhye · Member since
I kinda think the outro would have worked alot better if Mother Love was the last song on the album.................I like it tho.......andI still think MIH is a pretty good album.......definitely grew on me over the years (I really didnt like it when it first came out!).....MIH, YDFM, and LML are killer songs............thats another thing..............MIH (the song) doesnt seem to get a ton of love, but I just love it................
Adam Baboolal · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]winterspelt wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]BETA215 wrote:[/b]
That isn't the David R. Fuller (:/) mix?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
I didnt knew it was his mix until now. I got it a lot of years ago while downloading some bootlegs.
I had to browse youtube to know if you were talking about the same mix, lol[/QUOTE]
Holy moly..... This is the first time I'm seeing/hearing this mix and realising it contains elements of MY own personal Mother Love mix. I've seen my mix passed off as an official mix on youtube before, but David R Fuller has actually nicked parts of my mix and called it his. That's just wrong :(
Here's my 2005 original - http://www.queenzone.com/forums/611257/mother-love-baboolal-mix.aspx
And here's Fullers' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPrn1IDZGB4
I'm sorry, but in a thread like this, I can't let this pass. At least now I can post this message to inform others about the truth/origin of the outro.
It was originally created for someone on Queenzone who didn't like the official ending. So, I put together something new and original. A lot of elements for that ending are completely original, e.g. my brothers' cymbals, processed drums, etc. etc. You can find out more details from the 2005 mix thread I've posted above.
