personally, i think the problem with AL's voice isn't that he's sh*t - far from it. In many respects he's perfect.
The problem is about his "vocal type".
Some people hate opera singers, others hate country singers, in fact - you name it - for every single vocal category out there, there'll be as many that dislike the style as those that like it.
AL's vocals sit somewhere in the musical theatre genre...and for many (myself included) that style really grates[/QUOTE]
OK, that's a good point, I can't really argue with that..........if his voice isnt your cup of tea, I suppose there's nothing to be done about that! Personally I think he sounds just fine singing the heavier stuff of Queen, but that's just my opinion.....*shrug*
A weird thought I had the other day.........if Adam were born about, uh, 20 years earlier, he'd have made a hell of a singer for a 80s 'hair metal' band.......lol..........with his voice AND his uh, flamboyance.......
Pingfah · Member since
I would like to see Queen + AL album also, just because it's the best chance we have of new material from Brian & Roger together.
In a funny way I think, despite being in my opinion an inferior frontman, AL is a better choice for recording an album than PR was. Cosmos Rocks was terribly uninspired. It's not a terrible album, but I expect more than a plodding Blues Rock album from Brian & Rog. It sounded more like Bad Company than Queen. Some young blood might be just the shot they need.
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
For me it's very simple - I don't really care for live music. The sound is never just right, there's too much in the way of visuals that distracts from the music - I know many people like that sort of thing and I think it's fine if people like that, but it's just not for me. I'm here simply for the music, and just the music. Now I can appreciate a live *record* if, and only if, it is well-recorded and brings something new to a set of studio recordings (like the QII show on the Rainbow set), but it remains secondary to a real, studio record. So from my perspective, any tour Brian and Roger go on where they don't play any new songs and they don't do anything particularly new with the songs they have played numerous times comes at the expense of new, real music. "Cosmos Rocks" was, to me, a failure because they were trying too hard to be popular. Brian and Roger both did some pretty great solo work, but it's not the kind of stuff that goes to the top of the charts. It doesn't have to do that to be good. I'd like to hear more of that. In fact, I listen to Roger's solo work more than I listen to Queen.
matt z · Member since
Adam sounds ridiculous singing rock tracks. He sounds like a boy voice. Apples and oranges. Great vs a singer of musicals. End of story.
The Real Wizard · Member since
As always, so many misguided comments..
Brian is absolutely right. With ease, every night Lambert hits notes Mercury would've killed to hit once.
Brian wasn't talking about overall technique, showmanship, songwriting, number of hit songs composed, strangling a cat with one's voice, or squealing like a girl. He was talking about vocal range on stage. End of. Period.
However, when people hear Brian or anyone else make that comment, it translates to them as "whaaaaaat, Brian just said Lambert is better than Mercury? Proof that he's senile in his old age" ... which is usually followed by a straw man, ad hominem or some other logical fallacy that changes the subject unnecessarily, revealing the agenda of the person so obviously uncomfortable with the fact just presented to them.
It's getting pathetic and predictable.
Like it or not, because of Adam Lambert, Queen are more popular now than they've ever been in decades. They're selling out just about every show they play, and they're being taken seriously again. And they did it without performing a resurrection. Some people really need to get over themselves and find something else to complain about. This collaboration isn't going away any time soon.
Ken8 · Member since
Well, at least he finally admits Paul Rodgers couldn't sing Queen songs in the right key
Oscar J · Member since
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
As always, so many misguided comments..
Brian is absolutely right. With ease, every night Lambert hits notes Mercury would've killed to hit once.
Brian wasn't talking about overall technique, showmanship, songwriting, number of hit songs composed, strangling a cat with one's voice, or squealing like a girl. He was talking about vocal range on stage. End of. Period.
[/QUOTE]
Shocking thought, eh..........Brian meant just what he said.........
flash00. · Member since
I don't think I can ever recall Brian ever praise Freddie when he was alive or when he died in the same way he has praised Lambert or other artists, I have always thought there was a touch of professional jealousy with Brian with regards to Freddie, I like some of AL solo music A Time For Miracles is a great song but like others have said he does sound like a kid singing who screams to hit those notes he has absolutely no power in his voice he isn't camp he's outright drag queen on stage and for someone not wanting to compare to FM he should stop coming on stage wearing a crown.
As far as singing live we all know how bad Freddie suffered with his voice but going by those concerts on dvd from the early 80s incl Leeds 82 bootleg Freddie pisses all over Lambert, Martel has a better voice than Lambert his latest album is great, we would hear Roger always champion Martel's voice while Brian would fawn over AL. Brian has always been a celebrity butt kisser and drools over anyone who is famous and sings a Queen song almost like he has no confidence in his own music, how long before AL gets sick to the back teeth of singing Queen songs and wants to include a few of his own music then Brian will go in his hissy fits and AL walks then BM will I no doubt be praising someone else similar to that old chestnut "Paul Rogers was one of Freddie's favourite singers" when we only ever heard Freddie say Robert Plant was one of his favourite male singers and saying he liked George Michaels voice also. I couldn't care less about AL fronting the band point I'm making is maybe we should take what BM says with a pinch of salt.
Remember what John said about Robbie.... It would be interesting what he thought of the new Queen line up-just my own opinion before I'm shot down.
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
For me it's very simple - I don't really care for live music. The sound is never just right, there's too much in the way of visuals that distracts from the music - I know many people like that sort of thing and I think it's fine if people like that, but it's just not for me. I'm here simply for the music, and just the music. Now I can appreciate a live *record* if, and only if, it is well-recorded and brings something new to a set of studio recordings (like the QII show on the Rainbow set), but it remains secondary to a real, studio record. [/QUOTE]
I guess I kinda think the other way around, somewhat........to me, new material or not, a live recording (total oxymoron, btw) is the way to hear the REAL band.......performing in front of an audience, devoid of any studio trickery or overdubbing or whatnot......
Snowflakes · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
personally, i think the problem with AL's voice isn't that he's sh*t - far from it. In many respects he's perfect.
The problem is about his "vocal type".
Some people hate opera singers, others hate country singers, in fact - you name it - for every single vocal category out there, there'll be as many that dislike the style as those that like it.
AL's vocals sit somewhere in the musical theatre genre...and for many (myself included) that style really grates[/QUOTE]
This is funny because for me everything about Queen's music is theatrics, Broadway-ish musical theater. It's probably why back in their day they were always outside the norm of what people considered Rock. They sure of hell got trashed in the media because of it. I'm not surprise the "We Will Rock You" musical was such a huge success because the music works so well on a musical stage. Even Freddie's antics on stage was OTT, theatrical. He sure wasn't one to shy away from using props. Seriously the guy went on stage in drags. lol. AL did musical theater for 10yrs so it's not a shock to me that he sings the songs well. Freddie did it better but both are theatrical, OTT, flamboyant. Full stop.
Snowflakes · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
As always, so many misguided comments..
Brian is absolutely right. With ease, every night Lambert hits notes Mercury would've killed to hit once.
Brian wasn't talking about overall technique, showmanship, songwriting, number of hit songs composed, strangling a cat with one's voice, or squealing like a girl. He was talking about vocal range on stage. End of. Period.
However, when people hear Brian or anyone else make that comment, it translates to them as "whaaaaaat, Brian just said Lambert is better than Mercury? Proof that he's senile in his old age" ... which is usually followed by a straw man, ad hominem or some other logical fallacy that changes the subject unnecessarily, revealing the agenda of the person so obviously uncomfortable with the fact just presented to them.
It's getting pathetic and predictable.
Like it or not, because of Adam Lambert, Queen are more popular now than they've ever been in decades. They're selling out just about every show they play, and they're being taken seriously again. And they did it without performing a resurrection. Some people really need to get over themselves and find something else to complain about. This collaboration isn't going away any time soon.[/QUOTE]
Thank Brian and Roger for keeping the Queen music alive since Freddie's death. I haven't heard his name mentioned so much in the media in the US since his death. If it wasn't for them Queen and Freddie would have faded away right after his death. Every time you hear Queen's music from TV commercials to sports arena was because of those guys keeping the music alive. Thank them.
Sheer Brass Neck · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Snowflakes wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
personally, i think the problem with AL's voice isn't that he's sh*t - far from it. In many respects he's perfect.
The problem is about his "vocal type".
Some people hate opera singers, others hate country singers, in fact - you name it - for every single vocal category out there, there'll be as many that dislike the style as those that like it.
AL's vocals sit somewhere in the musical theatre genre...and for many (myself included) that style really grates[/QUOTE]
This is funny because for me everything about Queen's music is theatrics, Broadway-ish musical theater. [/QUOTE]
Hi Snowflakes, you're new so I'll be nice and just say that because you said "FOR ME, everything about Queen's music s theatrics, Broadway-ish musical theatre", you probably don't own any Queen albums prior to AL's involvement or you'd realize that your statement is a just a wee bit off the mark. Some were theatrical, others heavier than the heaviest metal band. Early Queen were not Broadway-ish, they were 50 miles off Broadway.
Brancelli · Member since
Adam's voice is probably more suited for Zeppelin or GNR than Queen, although I do think he does a decent job singing Queen songs. I can definitely understand the criticism that Adam can't sing Queen's rock songs, it's easy to do when we compare him to Freddie's voice. I believe Adam is trying to preserve his voice a bit while doing this tour. SInging "rock" night after night can be harsh on the vocal cords.
However, I do think Adam can sing rock (very well), and is not just a musical theater guy.
Here is a bit of evidence (last 2 or 3 minutes are particulary good):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS38hz5PERU
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]flash00. wrote:[/b]
I don't think I can ever recall Brian ever praise Freddie when he was alive or when he died in the same way he has praised Lambert or other artists[/QUOTE]
Instead of singling Brian out, can you find any quote of any Queen member talking about another Queen member in a complimentary way before 1991?
And you also left out the part about how Brian has praised Freddie more in death than he has praised any other singer, living or dead. You sure have done pretty selective homework.
Slagging Brian. Queen fans doing what Queen fans do best...
