Adam Lambert is a fine singer, but let's not forget the composer(s) of all those great Queen songs. Without those songs there is no live show, and Freddie Mercury was a lot more then just a great singer.
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]DQ1 wrote:[/b]
Adam Lambert is a fine singer, but let's not forget the composer(s) of all those great Queen songs. Without those songs there is no live show, and Freddie Mercury was a lot more then just a great singer.[/QUOTE]
And that is what this tour is about. A good singer fronting a great band giving fans a chance to hear those great songs as they should be performed. In a big show with big audiences
gerry · Member since
Sure Freddie deserves more credit, he wrote some amazing songs but sadly they do not get the justice when performed now.
George Michael has a fuller better voice than Lambert and probably was the next best voice to Freddies although not a perfect fit but better
than a screeching cat who sings with its tongue hanging out like lambert.
The xfactor performance was dreadful, and freddies "somebody to love " was murdered by Lambert.
Freddie always said "never make my music boring" well it has been made boring thanks to May & Taylor taking on an unknown
pretty boy who has the charisma of an orange box.
Lambert would be ok singing west end songs but not in a heavy rock group like Queen, its so embarrassing and i agree with somebody on here
that he does look like a drag artist on legal highs!
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]Lambert would be ok singing west end songs but not in a heavy rock group like Queen, its so embarrassing and i agree with somebody on here
that he does look like a drag artist on legal highs!
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you mean like Freddie... in 1974 Zandra Rhodes "smocks", his 1976-1979 leotards (at least 3 different designs - one sequinned), and videos for: I Want To break Free, Great Pretender, It's A Hard Life..and fake boobs on stage
nah, Freddie & Lambert aren't even remotely similar are they? Have you EVER thought before you type such shit?.
matt z · Member since
Meh. Not being a douche or a "hater" it doesn't fit at all. Like watching QUEEN +DISNEY (something the HOLLYWOOD executives may have hoped for)
Adam fires an incredible job with WWTLF and TSMGO (Freddie never could on this one... except the "one time" if we're to believe Brian)
Nothing ad hominem. He doesn't suit the role. It's appealing to kids but I regretfully missed a ROCK showwithPaul Rodgers. (Partially due to the economy)
The comparisons don't hold up. If Adam had any mannerisms or "pizzazz" beyond mildly mocking the repertoire (the three references he gets in each show to the catalogue that he hadn't known before) then he'd have busted out the 80's "BOYS OF SUMMER" " BREAKTHRU" and put some BALLS and RISK into his performance.
It's dragged out and staged and comfortable.
It's a given he has an incredible range TECHNICALLY but the delivery is drastically lacking
If I hit 14k with a trumpet or a dying cat squeal .....
IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE SOURCE not the technicality.
These comparisons are meant to fill in seats of the sceptics. Uber fans won't forget it.
I frankly don't care as long as the "band" releases quality releases from their golden era with Freddie.
These comparisons should be taken both ways. It's just being sensible. Everybody KNOWS it
I'm glad they're touring BUT this dragged out comparison is beyond absurd.
This isn't Sabbath with Ronnie, Tony or Ian... It's a flat out comparison.
Just dealing with the words as spoken. It's literally kinda "offensive".
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]DQ1 wrote:[/b]
Adam Lambert is a fine singer, but let's not forget the composer(s) of all those great Queen songs. Without those songs there is no live show, and Freddie Mercury was a lot more then just a great singer.[/QUOTE]
Brian, Roger, and Adam aren't forgetting that, either! Adam pays tribute to him a few times during the shows, and there's Brian doing LOML with Freddie's vocals during the last part...........and theres always the Adam/Freddie BoRhap duet...........
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
that he does look like a drag artist on legal highs!
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Oooooooookay then...........
I was at one Queen+Adam show, and have watched parts of many others on youtube........tell me where and when he was looking like a drag queen!!!!
Freddie dressed more outrageously on stage than Adam ever did or does with Queen!
I havent seen Adam in a skin tight leotard, or short shorts that would make 80s NBA (basketball, by the way!) players do a double take........much less coming out on stage with fake boobs a la IWTBF!
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]Lambert would be ok singing west end songs but not in a heavy rock group like Queen, its so embarrassing and i agree with somebody on here
that he does look like a drag artist on legal highs!
[/QUOTE]
you mean like Freddie... in 1974 Zandra Rhodes "smocks", his 1976-1979 leotards (at least 3 different designs - one sequinned), and videos for: I Want To break Free, Great Pretender, It's A Hard Life..and fake boobs on stage
nah, Freddie & Lambert aren't even remotely similar are they? Have you EVER thought before you type such shit?.
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Ah......he wouldnt wanna let a little thing like FACTS get in his way.........
Sheer Brass Neck · Member since
Fantastic post Matt Z. I, like you, am not a douche or a hater. I think Adam Lambert has a wonderful voice and range. Just not as a rock singer, especially as a rock singer singing Queen songs. He doesn't have the balls or heft to carry off the rough stuff. Great at pop, not great at rock. e could maybe, maybe, hit the notes in It's Late. I wouldn't believe any of his emotional involvement though as he doesn't have the soul to carry that song. I guess that makes me a hater douche dinosaur who hasn't listened to music since 1979 and can't let go of the past :)
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The King Of Rhye wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
For me it's very simple - I don't really care for live music. The sound is never just right, there's too much in the way of visuals that distracts from the music - I know many people like that sort of thing and I think it's fine if people like that, but it's just not for me. I'm here simply for the music, and just the music. Now I can appreciate a live *record* if, and only if, it is well-recorded and brings something new to a set of studio recordings (like the QII show on the Rainbow set), but it remains secondary to a real, studio record. [/QUOTE]
I guess I kinda think the other way around, somewhat........to me, new material or not, a live recording (total oxymoron, btw) is the way to hear the REAL band.......performing in front of an audience, devoid of any studio trickery or overdubbing or whatnot......
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Studio techniques and equipment, software and editing are not trickery any more than amplifiers, synthesizers and electric guitars are. They are tools in realizing a creative vision. My only real interest in live music lies in improvisation (and that is not the same as extemporating, i.e. playing music without any pre-arranged structure, form or substance whatsoever), which I consider an art form related to, but different from, composition, which is yet another separate art form from performing music. I consider a studio record the finest form for composed music and live performance the ideal form for improvised music. But I prefer the former, although I enjoy improvisation a lot.
miraclesteinway · Member since
I think this is all blown out of proportion.
It's a fact that Adam Lambert has a larger live range than Freddie had, and he has a more secure technique (technique in terms of what he does with his muscles to produce the sound that he does). The simple fact is that with the science of vocal coaching being more developed than it has been in decades, it's little wonder that a fully-trained singer in 2014 can have a better range and more accuracy than even Freddie Mercury, who was not trained, had between 1971 and 1986.
Whether you actually like the sound of Adam Lambert's voice (I do), or like the way he delivers the songs (I do), is another matter. I think one could debate all day about whether Adam Lambert is the right fit for Queen (I happen to think he's as good as they'll ever get, and he's a wonderful artist), but in all honesty, we know it's not up for debate whether or not Adam Lambert can sing, has a good technique or has a wider range than Freddie did.
Here's where I think Freddie excels over Adam Lambert though - simply put, for me, Freddie had more raw soul. He could capture the essence of a song and sing it from somewhere deep within himself, in his psyche if you like, and he could reach out to an audience in a way that even Adam Lambert can't yet. There is something more polished about Adam Lambert, but there is something more touching about Freddie Mercury, and Freddie's greatness as a performer (let's not even question as a composer or musician, he was greater than he probably realised) was his ability to make every audience member feel like he was singing exclusively for them.
Let's be honest though, when Queen were going through their roughest phase, drinking a lot, partying too much, touring a little bit too much, there was a drop in the quality of their performance, and sometimes Freddie sounded really bad, and the rest of the band screwed up. It doesn't matter though. It doesn't matter because we're talking about things that happened more than 30 years ago, and it doesn't matter because they still had the wow factor even when they screwed it.
I think Queen today, with Adam Lambert, have that wow factor. It's true, that the AL shows have a touch more of the west-end/broadway production in them, but come on, it's a great night out and hearing the music being performed by a band with two of the original writers and performers, is pretty awesome. For me it's not a bonus that John Deacon doesn't want to play, for me, I think it's a shame, but I totally respect his choice. We don't actually know what John Deacon thinks of the new set up. He might actually really like it and just not feel that he wants the touring life anymore. He might hate it. Who knows apart from him and those closest to him?
Mr.Mouth · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
Adam sounds ridiculous singing rock tracks. He sounds like a boy voice. Apples and oranges. Great vs a singer of musicals. End of story. [/QUOTE]
Thats the real truth!
Well said Matt.
Cheers friend
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]miraclesteinway wrote:[/b]
It's true, that the AL shows have a touch more of the west-end/broadway production in them,[/QUOTE]
Great post, as usual.........I dont quite see where it has a Broadway feel to it, though.........ok, maybe in Killer Queen, the bit with the couch and the 'champagne'..........beyond that, I'd say its generally a plain ol rock concert Queen-style........
Oscar J · Member since
Don't know about accuracy... Adam's pitch is a bit hit or miss me thinks.
The Real Wizard · Member since
This is the best video of the Q+AL collaboration, and I'd say Lambert is pretty bang on here.
Also, I may add that this is the closest Bri and Rog have come to capturing the spirit of Queen in the 15 years since they started working together again. This is just magnificent.