The guys in Queen were all about their comfort zone - and that ain't it.
I still say Mercury conducted himself well.
The Real Wizard
Thread
Posts in chronological order
Oscar J
[QUOTE] [b]CPL593h wrote:[/b]
Well, I'll be the dissonant voice here.
I had never seen this video and I hate it. Not because of Bono's assholiness (is that a word?), but because Freddie seems awkward and unconfident during all the song. We all know he was in fact a shy person, who hated interviews and such, but his stage persona has always been flamboyant. On this video, he almost looks like he thinks he doesn't deserve to be there and his behaviour is, IMHO, the strict opposite of his usual stage behaviour. He looks out-of-place, he tries to find the right attitude. Gives me a sad feeling.[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly.
Well, I'll be the dissonant voice here.
I had never seen this video and I hate it. Not because of Bono's assholiness (is that a word?), but because Freddie seems awkward and unconfident during all the song. We all know he was in fact a shy person, who hated interviews and such, but his stage persona has always been flamboyant. On this video, he almost looks like he thinks he doesn't deserve to be there and his behaviour is, IMHO, the strict opposite of his usual stage behaviour. He looks out-of-place, he tries to find the right attitude. Gives me a sad feeling.[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly.
Nitroboy
I remember stumbling upon this clip a long time ago, and getting really annoyed at the lady singing around 1:40.. She just annoyed me
pittrek
[QUOTE] [b]hobbit-in-Rhye wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
The almost complete concert was released on a 4DVD set. The absolutely complete ~16 hours concert (missing just one TV report with backstage footage) is available "unofficially" among "certain collectors". If I remember correctly it had their set, Do They Know It's Christmas and quite funny interviews with Brian and I think also Roger (not sure, I haven't seen it for a couple of years). I remember the Brian one because he told stories like Ozzy guessed the correct gender of his kids before they were born etc.[/QUOTE]
Interesting info, thank you. Do you have any idea how we can watch "some" of this unofficial one? Or buy it if it's for sale?
luthorn: haha, true. He had already ruined most of them that day.
[/QUOTE]
What exactly do you want? The whole recording or just the Queen related bits? And don't speak about buying it, the last person who sold copies of the TV broadcast ended up in jail
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
The almost complete concert was released on a 4DVD set. The absolutely complete ~16 hours concert (missing just one TV report with backstage footage) is available "unofficially" among "certain collectors". If I remember correctly it had their set, Do They Know It's Christmas and quite funny interviews with Brian and I think also Roger (not sure, I haven't seen it for a couple of years). I remember the Brian one because he told stories like Ozzy guessed the correct gender of his kids before they were born etc.[/QUOTE]
Interesting info, thank you. Do you have any idea how we can watch "some" of this unofficial one? Or buy it if it's for sale?
luthorn: haha, true. He had already ruined most of them that day.
[/QUOTE]
What exactly do you want? The whole recording or just the Queen related bits? And don't speak about buying it, the last person who sold copies of the TV broadcast ended up in jail
Biggus Dickus
[QUOTE] [b]CPL593h wrote:[/b]
Well, I'll be the dissonant voice here.
I had never seen this video and I hate it. Not because of Bono's assholiness (is that a word?), but because Freddie seems awkward and unconfident during all the song. We all know he was in fact a shy person, who hated interviews and such, but his stage persona has always been flamboyant. On this video, he almost looks like he thinks he doesn't deserve to be there and his behaviour is, IMHO, the strict opposite of his usual stage behaviour. He looks out-of-place, he tries to find the right attitude. Gives me a sad feeling.[/QUOTE]
I think he's acting alright. He's just craving to have his trademark magic wand on his hands. Lots of nervous energy there.
Well, I'll be the dissonant voice here.
I had never seen this video and I hate it. Not because of Bono's assholiness (is that a word?), but because Freddie seems awkward and unconfident during all the song. We all know he was in fact a shy person, who hated interviews and such, but his stage persona has always been flamboyant. On this video, he almost looks like he thinks he doesn't deserve to be there and his behaviour is, IMHO, the strict opposite of his usual stage behaviour. He looks out-of-place, he tries to find the right attitude. Gives me a sad feeling.[/QUOTE]
I think he's acting alright. He's just craving to have his trademark magic wand on his hands. Lots of nervous energy there.
noorie
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]luthorn wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
To me it always looked like Freddie had to make an effort to be given some singing time on the mic while that song is being sung - it's almost like Bono, McCartney, etc., are ignoring him.
Bono was always such an insufferable dick.[/QUOTE]
I was always surprised why Freddie was not asked to participate in this song (no one gave him the words on a sheet of paper). I bet everyone was jealous that he smoked them that day with Queen's performance. [/QUOTE]
Yes, I'm sure there was a certain amount of jealousy towards Freddie.[/QUOTE]
They are all crowding him out. He looks like the new kid on the first day of high school being shunned by the popular kids, and trying to fit in. When actually he was King (Queen..?) that day!
[QUOTE] [b]luthorn wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
To me it always looked like Freddie had to make an effort to be given some singing time on the mic while that song is being sung - it's almost like Bono, McCartney, etc., are ignoring him.
Bono was always such an insufferable dick.[/QUOTE]
I was always surprised why Freddie was not asked to participate in this song (no one gave him the words on a sheet of paper). I bet everyone was jealous that he smoked them that day with Queen's performance. [/QUOTE]
Yes, I'm sure there was a certain amount of jealousy towards Freddie.[/QUOTE]
They are all crowding him out. He looks like the new kid on the first day of high school being shunned by the popular kids, and trying to fit in. When actually he was King (Queen..?) that day!
Nitroboy
There was probably still some resentment towards Freddie and Queen because they played in South Africa... Just a thought :O
luthorn
[QUOTE] [b]Nitroboy wrote:[/b]
There was probably still some resentment towards Freddie and Queen because they played in South Africa... Just a thought :O[/QUOTE]
Double standards IMO. I am from the Iron Curtain country. There were western bands visiting and playing to the enjoyment of the elites and yet no major backlash. All of the sudden Queen plays to the elites of an African country and there is a UN ban on Queen, as if they had nuclear weapons or something. Freddie said he would love to play Russia and China, too bad he did not. he would have been welcomed by the oppressed masses, even if he played only to the Kremlin. Speaking as an regime oppressed individual, I am glad western bands came to visit even thou we could not afford tickets or could not get them, period. Me thinks it is all about skin color: oppress white is good, oppress black is bad. Double standards pc bs, me thinks.
There was probably still some resentment towards Freddie and Queen because they played in South Africa... Just a thought :O[/QUOTE]
Double standards IMO. I am from the Iron Curtain country. There were western bands visiting and playing to the enjoyment of the elites and yet no major backlash. All of the sudden Queen plays to the elites of an African country and there is a UN ban on Queen, as if they had nuclear weapons or something. Freddie said he would love to play Russia and China, too bad he did not. he would have been welcomed by the oppressed masses, even if he played only to the Kremlin. Speaking as an regime oppressed individual, I am glad western bands came to visit even thou we could not afford tickets or could not get them, period. Me thinks it is all about skin color: oppress white is good, oppress black is bad. Double standards pc bs, me thinks.
hobbit in Rhye
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]hobbit-in-Rhye wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
The almost complete concert was released on a 4DVD set. The absolutely complete ~16 hours concert (missing just one TV report with backstage footage) is available "unofficially" among "certain collectors". If I remember correctly it had their set, Do They Know It's Christmas and quite funny interviews with Brian and I think also Roger (not sure, I haven't seen it for a couple of years). I remember the Brian one because he told stories like Ozzy guessed the correct gender of his kids before they were born etc.[/QUOTE]
Interesting info, thank you. Do you have any idea how we can watch "some" of this unofficial one? Or buy it if it's for sale?
luthorn: haha, true. He had already ruined most of them that day.
[/QUOTE]
What exactly do you want? The whole recording or just the Queen related bits? And don't speak about buying it, the last person who sold copies of the TV broadcast ended up in jail[/QUOTE]
The more the better, thank you. But The Queen related bits would be priority. I'm new to this trading/requesting area so I didn't know...
[QUOTE] [b]hobbit-in-Rhye wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
The almost complete concert was released on a 4DVD set. The absolutely complete ~16 hours concert (missing just one TV report with backstage footage) is available "unofficially" among "certain collectors". If I remember correctly it had their set, Do They Know It's Christmas and quite funny interviews with Brian and I think also Roger (not sure, I haven't seen it for a couple of years). I remember the Brian one because he told stories like Ozzy guessed the correct gender of his kids before they were born etc.[/QUOTE]
Interesting info, thank you. Do you have any idea how we can watch "some" of this unofficial one? Or buy it if it's for sale?
luthorn: haha, true. He had already ruined most of them that day.
[/QUOTE]
What exactly do you want? The whole recording or just the Queen related bits? And don't speak about buying it, the last person who sold copies of the TV broadcast ended up in jail[/QUOTE]
The more the better, thank you. But The Queen related bits would be priority. I'm new to this trading/requesting area so I didn't know...
*goodco*
Page 145, from John Jobling's 'The U2 Definitive Biography' (which I just read)
Music historian Paul Gambaccini, who was part of the BBC broadcasting team at Wembley, notes: “It was interesting how in Britain over 50 percent of the viewers on the BBC panel said that Queen had stolen the show, which had been the sense of the performers backstage at Wembley, but to Americans who were concentrating on the Philadelphia part of it, it was U2 and Bono taking the risk with that young woman. It was a real game changer from a commercial point of view.”
[note…..Bono and the woman from the audience who danced during ‘Bad’]
Of course, U2 wasn’t the only act on the bill to profit so handsomely, intentionally or otherwise. The aforementioned Queen’s twenty-minute jukebox set was so well received that, the following year, the original lineup embarked on their first and only moneymaking tour of their entire career—a remarkable turnaround of fortunes for a band that had walked into Live Aid as public enemy number one after playing nine gigs at the infamous Sun City gambling resort in South Africa, which was a direct violation of the United Nations cultural boycott and led to accusations of them supporting apartheid.
******
Author's opinions. Thought it was nice that this bit was included, as well as a fair comment....or was the 'Public Enemy #1' bit an exaggeration?
Music historian Paul Gambaccini, who was part of the BBC broadcasting team at Wembley, notes: “It was interesting how in Britain over 50 percent of the viewers on the BBC panel said that Queen had stolen the show, which had been the sense of the performers backstage at Wembley, but to Americans who were concentrating on the Philadelphia part of it, it was U2 and Bono taking the risk with that young woman. It was a real game changer from a commercial point of view.”
[note…..Bono and the woman from the audience who danced during ‘Bad’]
Of course, U2 wasn’t the only act on the bill to profit so handsomely, intentionally or otherwise. The aforementioned Queen’s twenty-minute jukebox set was so well received that, the following year, the original lineup embarked on their first and only moneymaking tour of their entire career—a remarkable turnaround of fortunes for a band that had walked into Live Aid as public enemy number one after playing nine gigs at the infamous Sun City gambling resort in South Africa, which was a direct violation of the United Nations cultural boycott and led to accusations of them supporting apartheid.
******
Author's opinions. Thought it was nice that this bit was included, as well as a fair comment....or was the 'Public Enemy #1' bit an exaggeration?
Day dop
[QUOTE] [b]*goodco* wrote:[/b]
Page 145, from John Jobling's 'The U2 Definitive Biography' (which I just read)
Music historian Paul Gambaccini, who was part of the BBC broadcasting team at Wembley, notes: “It was interesting how in Britain over 50 percent of the viewers on the BBC panel said that Queen had stolen the show, which had been the sense of the performers backstage at Wembley, but to Americans who were concentrating on the Philadelphia part of it, it was U2 and Bono taking the risk with that young woman. It was a real game changer from a commercial point of view.”
[note…..Bono and the woman from the audience who danced during ‘Bad’]
Of course, U2 wasn’t the only act on the bill to profit so handsomely, intentionally or otherwise. The aforementioned Queen’s twenty-minute jukebox set was so well received that, the following year, the original lineup embarked on their first and only moneymaking tour of their entire career—a remarkable turnaround of fortunes for a band that had walked into Live Aid as public enemy number one after playing nine gigs at the infamous Sun City gambling resort in South Africa, which was a direct violation of the United Nations cultural boycott and led to accusations of them supporting apartheid.
******
Author's opinions. Thought it was nice that this bit was included, as well as a fair comment....or was the 'Public Enemy #1' bit an exaggeration?
[/QUOTE]
Public Enemy #1, yes, an exaggeration. Media enemy, would be more along the right tracks. I think Gambaccini gets a bit carried away at times.
The only American I recall talking about Live Aid is Dave Grohl, and that was him going on about how great Queens performance was. Alright, that's just his view, but, U2's performance wasn't quite in the same league, was it? I'm a bit sceptical about the suggestion Americans regarded U2's performance as the show-stealer (where did Gambaccini get that from? Rolling Stone magazine?), though I suppose it could be true. I've always liked U2 (although their recent albums aren't all that), but I thought their Live Aid performance was overrated. Bono dancing with that woman might've been risky and daring at the time. though it's hard to imagine now, as it's been done so many times since, but to consider they stole the show over that? Odd.
Edit: I just nosed around. On Wiki it says "Queen's performance on that day has since been voted by more than 60 artists, journalists and music industry executives as the greatest live performance in the history of rock music."
The same isn't said for U2's performance, though it does say "U2's performance further established them as a pre-eminent live group – something for which they would eventually become superstars".
Maybe there's some Americans on here who could shed further light on this one...
Page 145, from John Jobling's 'The U2 Definitive Biography' (which I just read)
Music historian Paul Gambaccini, who was part of the BBC broadcasting team at Wembley, notes: “It was interesting how in Britain over 50 percent of the viewers on the BBC panel said that Queen had stolen the show, which had been the sense of the performers backstage at Wembley, but to Americans who were concentrating on the Philadelphia part of it, it was U2 and Bono taking the risk with that young woman. It was a real game changer from a commercial point of view.”
[note…..Bono and the woman from the audience who danced during ‘Bad’]
Of course, U2 wasn’t the only act on the bill to profit so handsomely, intentionally or otherwise. The aforementioned Queen’s twenty-minute jukebox set was so well received that, the following year, the original lineup embarked on their first and only moneymaking tour of their entire career—a remarkable turnaround of fortunes for a band that had walked into Live Aid as public enemy number one after playing nine gigs at the infamous Sun City gambling resort in South Africa, which was a direct violation of the United Nations cultural boycott and led to accusations of them supporting apartheid.
******
Author's opinions. Thought it was nice that this bit was included, as well as a fair comment....or was the 'Public Enemy #1' bit an exaggeration?
[/QUOTE]
Public Enemy #1, yes, an exaggeration. Media enemy, would be more along the right tracks. I think Gambaccini gets a bit carried away at times.
The only American I recall talking about Live Aid is Dave Grohl, and that was him going on about how great Queens performance was. Alright, that's just his view, but, U2's performance wasn't quite in the same league, was it? I'm a bit sceptical about the suggestion Americans regarded U2's performance as the show-stealer (where did Gambaccini get that from? Rolling Stone magazine?), though I suppose it could be true. I've always liked U2 (although their recent albums aren't all that), but I thought their Live Aid performance was overrated. Bono dancing with that woman might've been risky and daring at the time. though it's hard to imagine now, as it's been done so many times since, but to consider they stole the show over that? Odd.
Edit: I just nosed around. On Wiki it says "Queen's performance on that day has since been voted by more than 60 artists, journalists and music industry executives as the greatest live performance in the history of rock music."
The same isn't said for U2's performance, though it does say "U2's performance further established them as a pre-eminent live group – something for which they would eventually become superstars".
Maybe there's some Americans on here who could shed further light on this one...
Hangman_96
In a short documentary which was released on the aforementioned 4-DVD set there were bits of this alternate footage, not from this song though - if my memory serves me right - but there was alternate footage of Bowie's performance of Heroes.