"Lawyer proposes bill to allow murder of gays and lesbians"

[QUOTE] [b]magicalfreddiemercury wrote:[/b]It would be interesting to see how many signatures this "sodomite suppression act" would receive in Mississippi or Texas or Alabama vs. even the most conservative area of California. That it can even get that far - gathering signatures as if it's a legitimate piece of legislation - is despicable. But the tone has been set and it’s freaking dark and depressing.[/QUOTE]

And that's precisely why these politicians speak as they do - they're simply playing to their bases.

There is no developed country (I hesitate to use that term to describe America, but I digress) with an electorate as proudly bigoted and ignorant as the majority of Americans. Politicians know exactly what they can get away with.

That Todd Akin and Paul Ryan partnered up to coin the term "legitimate rape" and that there is even a remote chance that the Republicans could get into power spells out everything that is wrong with America.

And let me add that the democrats aren't much better. They, too, fall over to the corporate lobby, since many of the big companies provide them with their campaign finances as well. Campaign contributions are now limitless.

And just when there was hope that science was in good hands with Obama, now that the Republicans control both the house and senate, a bill was passed preventing scientists from advising the EPA.

The country is just plain doomed.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

And that's precisely why these politicians speak as they do - they're simply playing to their bases.

There is no developed country (I hesitate to use that term to describe America, but I digress) with an electorate as proudly bigoted and ignorant as the majority of Americans. Politicians know exactly what they can get away with.

That Todd Akin and Paul Ryan partnered up to coin the term "legitimate rape" and that there is even a remote chance that the Republicans could get into power spells out everything that is wrong with America.

And let me add that the democrats aren't much better. They, too, fall over to the corporate lobby, since many of the big companies provide them with their campaign finances as well. Campaign contributions are now limitless.

And just when there was hope that science was in good hands with Obama, now that the Republicans control both the house and senate, a bill was passed preventing scientists from advising the EPA.

The country is just plain doomed. [/QUOTE]

True - both parties are bought and controlled. No question there. I think what many of us do, sadly, is check to see who's doing the buying before we vote.

The bill about the scientists won't become law. Obama would veto it. But you're right, just like the initiative I started this thread with, when something of that nature can gain traction, it's a sure sign of how dangerous things are.

btw - Quality of "development" is often a matter of opinion. Think Marilyn Monroe. That's quality development. Then think Mama Honey Boo-boo. There's something for everyone. Which is both wonderful and terrifying. So it goes for the USA - a country I happen to love, btw, despite the many idiots who inhabit it. And we're only doomed when we stop fighting for it, which is something I, at least, will never do.

How about an update?

The state attorney general has asked the court for a special exemption in filing this initiative. If they grant it, this is over, for now. If they don't, then this guy can start trying to collect signatures to have his initiative put on the ballot.

Meanwhile, another Californian has proposed her own initiative in answer to this one. She calls it The Intolerant Jackass Act, and here's one part of it:

c) Any person, herein known as an "Intolerant Jackass," who brings forth a ballot measure that suggests the killing of gays and/or lesbians, whether this measure is called the Sodomite Suppression Act or is known by some other name, shall be required to attend sensitivity training for at least three (3) hours per month for twelve (12) consecutive months. In addition, the offender or "Intolerant Jackass" must donate $5000 to a pro-gay or pro-lesbian organization.

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More on that here if you're interested... bring popcorn...
http://slate.me/1xhSCnr

And now, Indiana's governor has approved a bill for 'religious freedom'. In other words, it is OK for an individual to refuse service to a LGBTindividual on 'moral' grounds.

Or, more precisely, discriminate. Hate and bigotry and small mindedness are still flourishing in the 'land of the free'.

Immoral behavior is condoned, as long as it is wrapped in fantasy.

[QUOTE] [b]*goodco* wrote:[/b]

Immoral behavior is condoned, as long as it is wrapped in fantasy. [/QUOTE]

Spot on!

There is a bright side, though. Not only are businesses threatening to leave Indiana, but the Disciples of Christ denomination has threatened to take its planned gathering elsewhere - which could cost the state $6 million in revenue. Granted, the gathering isn't until 2017, but the threat to leave is a good start, IMO.

Damm, people can be twisted. But if you ask me, it looks like a moron trying to get publicity over him.

[QUOTE] [b]Doga wrote:[/b]

Damm, people can be twisted. But if you ask me, it looks like a moron trying to get publicity over him. [/QUOTE]

Twisted is right, but this guy isn't so much an attention whore as yet another religious fanatic eager to force his beliefs on everyone else, regardless what beliefs, if any, everyone else holds. We're seeing more and more of those twisted people these days.