Could Hot Space be redone in a more traditional Queen style?

[QUOTE] [b]raucousmonster wrote:[/b]
Could Hot Space be redone in a more traditional Queen style?
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i f*cking-well hope not...as Ade Edmondson put it so eloquently:
"Never, ever bloody anything ever!"

[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
Staying Power (*even if ripped off from Zeppelin)[/QUOTE]


Huh?? You just lost me there.......what Zeppelin song is Staying Power ripped off from?????

Few years ago, I emailed the good Doc and said, why don't the remake Hot Space as a rock album. He put it on his Soapbox. I even suggested the name Hot Space Rocks. His reply was along the lines of if there was enough time and space they could do it, but the live versions were out there to hear a rockier version of things like Staying Power. Still think a full rock version of Staying Power would be great. And still think the title Hot Space Rocks is a genius title and should get me royalties if they did it

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]raucousmonster wrote:[/b]
Could Hot Space be redone in a more traditional Queen style?
[/QUOTE]
i f*cking-well hope not...as Ade Edmondson put it so eloquently:
"Never, ever bloody anything ever!"[/QUOTE]

The real point of my original post (which I made a pig's ear of asking admittedly :) ) was to ask if the songs on Hot Space would have stood up well next to the rest of Queen's catalogue had they been presented in a more traditional Queen style. My own view is that by and large they wouldn't because the songwriting is noticeably weaker than most other Queen albums. I'd put it on a par with The Miracle which is my own least favourite Queen album. At least on Hot Space they were trying (and failing) to do something different. The Miracle is just...well, mostly average songs with mostly terrible production values.

In fact, here is the link to the letter, the reply seems to have been taken down though:-

http://www.brianmay.com/brian/letters/lettersfeb09.html

At least Hot Space was the last Queen album to take risks, it isn't as bad as people make out. For me it's better than The Works & A Kind of Magic. At the time it bombed I guess but signs were there on Another One Bites The Dust which I always preferred live especially the rockier 1986 version

It seems we all have different views about HS

Staying Power - I like ALL versions. Including 12' and live. Matt's version is SUPERB !!

Dancer - Bland and boring.

Back Chat - Live seems to work.

Body Language - Awkward. However, live rocks!

Action This Day - Awesome pace!.

Put Out The Fire - I blast the headphones with this one. I specially like Brian's drunk solo.

Life is Real - Wonderful ballad.

Calling All Girls - Nonsense

Las Palabras De Amor - Cringe. Worst spanish ever.

Cool Cat - Fine song. One of my favourites. I don't like the bowie version

Under Pressure - I like mostly the second part of the song.

[QUOTE] [b]raucousmonster wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]raucousmonster wrote:[/b]
Could Hot Space be redone in a more traditional Queen style?
[/QUOTE]
i f*cking-well hope not...as Ade Edmondson put it so eloquently:
"Never, ever bloody anything ever!"[/QUOTE]

The real point of my original post (which I made a pig's ear of asking admittedly :) ) was to ask if the songs on Hot Space would have stood up well next to the rest of Queen's catalogue had they been presented in a more traditional Queen style. My own view is that by and large they wouldn't because the songwriting is noticeably weaker than most other Queen albums. I'd put it on a par with The Miracle which is my own least favourite Queen album. At least on Hot Space they were trying (and failing) to do something different. The Miracle is just...well, mostly average songs with mostly terrible production values. [/QUOTE]

but. it's. just. horrible. in. totality.

there;s a saying "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear"....
Hot Space is in the top three of Queen "Pig's Ear" category

Haha. You've just named the other 2015 Queen release.


Presenting in 2015

QUEEN: PIG'S EAR
A rare look into Queen

1. My Secret Fantasy (William Orbit mix)
2. Body Language
3. The Loser in the End
4. In Only Seven Days
5. Fun It
6. Stealin
7. Sweet Lady
8. A Human Body (Roger's 2015 I need royalties remix)
9. Don't lose your head (extended remix)
10. A Dozen Red Roses For My Darling
11. Staying Power (C_Matt remix with space ship, confused by QPL into being an original remix)
12. "Are you running"/Blurred Vision mash up. (Just the verse are you running, not track 13 in full)

Packaged in gatefold sealed with industrial strength duct tape, featuring a package of pork rinds and rancid pig's ear

[QUOTE] [b]The King Of Rhye wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
Staying Power (*even if ripped off from Zeppelin)[/QUOTE]


Huh?? You just lost me there.......what Zeppelin song is Staying Power ripped off from?????[/QUOTE]

I could be wrong, but I think Matt is referring to 'Trampled Underfoot'. They do admittedly have some similarities.

[QUOTE] [b]Djdownsy wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]The King Of Rhye wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
Staying Power (*even if ripped off from Zeppelin)[/QUOTE]


Huh?? You just lost me there.......what Zeppelin song is Staying Power ripped off from?????[/QUOTE]

I could be wrong, but I think Matt is referring to 'Trampled Underfoot'. They do admittedly have some similarities. [/QUOTE]

Actually it was someone else's discovery. I'm not a huge Zeppelin fan.

OUT ON THE TILES from III

It was brought up on a plagiarism thread along with Joe Jackson and KEEP PASSING THE OPEN WINDOWS.

Songs influenced by etc. Sometimes it's just a style "borrowed" or a delivery style, or theme I.e. Ghostbusters and the invisible man. ... and outright near theft in the case of BREAKTHRU and THE BOYS OF SUMMER.

^ I remember that thread! :)

Probably sub conscious , if at all, the mighty Queen resorting to creative theft ??!!! - I should cocoa.

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[b]brENsKi wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]raucousmonster wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]raucousmonster wrote:[/b]
Could Hot Space be redone in a more traditional Queen style?
[/QUOTE]
i f*cking-well hope not...as Ade Edmondson put it so eloquently:
"Never, ever bloody anything ever!"[/QUOTE]

The real point of my original post (which I made a pig's ear of asking admittedly :) ) was to ask if the songs on Hot Space would have stood up well next to the rest of Queen's catalogue had they been presented in a more traditional Queen style. My own view is that by and large they wouldn't because the songwriting is noticeably weaker than most other Queen albums. I'd put it on a par with The Miracle which is my own least favourite Queen album. At least on Hot Space they were trying (and failing) to do something different. The Miracle is just...well, mostly average songs with mostly terrible production values. [/QUOTE]

but. it's. just. horrible. in. totality.

there;s a saying "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear"....
Hot Space is in the top three of Queen "Pig's Ear" category[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure it's in the top 1, but that doesn't mean it could not be made better / less bad with some (ok, a *lot*) of retouching.

[QUOTE] [b]Djdownsy wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]The King Of Rhye wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
Staying Power (*even if ripped off from Zeppelin)[/QUOTE]


Huh?? You just lost me there.......what Zeppelin song is Staying Power ripped off from?????[/QUOTE]

I could be wrong, but I think Matt is referring to 'Trampled Underfoot'. They do admittedly have some similarities. [/QUOTE]

How ironic for Zep to be on the receiving end of this.....and only to a degree of something sounding 'a bit similar' and maybe reminiscent of another piece, rather than Page & Plant's proven route of simply lifting whole chunks of music and lyrics and then sitting back and taking the praise for their wonderful composition.....!!!