Oscar J
March's White Queen is one of Queens best live performances ever in my book. Damnit, now I've got to listen to it again.
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Jekaling
I agree Fairy Feller doesnot fit. The vocals and the guitars sound so much different than all the other songs from this concert. Freddie's voice sounds too good.
Biggus Dickus
[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
March concert has a great guitar sound, November concert not so much. Just listen to the first guitar chord coming in on Rhye. It sounds great and heavy, on November gig Brian's sound is just wrong imo. By the way, was it ever established if they really played Fairy Feller during the March gig, or was it just some soundcheck/studio creation? Freddie's falsetto delivery on the 2nd line of the verse sounds highly suspicious to me.[/QUOTE]
Is that bit definitely Freddie, and not Roger caught somewhere between his low and high voices? [/QUOTE]
It's Freddie alright.
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
March concert has a great guitar sound, November concert not so much. Just listen to the first guitar chord coming in on Rhye. It sounds great and heavy, on November gig Brian's sound is just wrong imo. By the way, was it ever established if they really played Fairy Feller during the March gig, or was it just some soundcheck/studio creation? Freddie's falsetto delivery on the 2nd line of the verse sounds highly suspicious to me.[/QUOTE]
Is that bit definitely Freddie, and not Roger caught somewhere between his low and high voices? [/QUOTE]
It's Freddie alright.
tomchristie22
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
By the way, was it ever established if they really played Fairy Feller during the March gig, or was it just some soundcheck/studio creation? Freddie's falsetto delivery on the 2nd line of the verse sounds highly suspicious to me.[/QUOTE]
To go as far as saying it's a studio creation is conspiracy theory level stuff - complete conjecture. More likely is that the falsetto phrase was just loudened, and perhaps doctored a bit, to compensate for it being fairly weakly delivered.
EDIT: Plus, do you really believe Brian completely faked his whole introductory spiel - 'We'd like to do something for you which we don't often do - It's especially for you. This is off the second album ... features Freddie on jangle-box again. It's called the Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke'.
Note also that the sonic quality of his voice & mic are exactly the same compared to him saying 'Do you like our new arrangement' after Great King Rat, about 10 seconds before he starts talking about FFMS.
Furthermore, the piano on Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke shares the same sort of plasticky quality that it does for the entire March album, e.g. on Seven Seas of Rhye.
Basically, everything about the recording and its consistency with the rest of the March concert shows that either you're wrong, or they made a precise and ridiculously extensive effort to make sure it sounded consistent.
By the way, was it ever established if they really played Fairy Feller during the March gig, or was it just some soundcheck/studio creation? Freddie's falsetto delivery on the 2nd line of the verse sounds highly suspicious to me.[/QUOTE]
To go as far as saying it's a studio creation is conspiracy theory level stuff - complete conjecture. More likely is that the falsetto phrase was just loudened, and perhaps doctored a bit, to compensate for it being fairly weakly delivered.
EDIT: Plus, do you really believe Brian completely faked his whole introductory spiel - 'We'd like to do something for you which we don't often do - It's especially for you. This is off the second album ... features Freddie on jangle-box again. It's called the Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke'.
Note also that the sonic quality of his voice & mic are exactly the same compared to him saying 'Do you like our new arrangement' after Great King Rat, about 10 seconds before he starts talking about FFMS.
Furthermore, the piano on Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke shares the same sort of plasticky quality that it does for the entire March album, e.g. on Seven Seas of Rhye.
Basically, everything about the recording and its consistency with the rest of the March concert shows that either you're wrong, or they made a precise and ridiculously extensive effort to make sure it sounded consistent.
tomchristie22
White Queen from March > November, for sure. March version is absolutely inspired.
tomchristie22
[QUOTE] [b]Jekaling wrote:[/b]
I agree Fairy Feller doesnot fit. The vocals and the guitars sound so much different than all the other songs from this concert. Freddie's voice sounds too good.[/QUOTE]
Freddie's voice doesn't sound too good by any means - well at least, where it does sound good, it also sounds distinctly doctored. His falsetto line is airy and fairly weak, and as we all know, his voice nearly cracks on 'ploughboy', masked by what's widely assumed to be a 2014 digital correction.
All this isn't to say that he was singing badly on the night - on the contrary, it seems that he was soaring for most of it. But it simply can't be said that his lead vocal for Fairy Feller sounds too perfect to be true, with in mind that much of it's been refined in Pro Tools.
Also, Freddie's voice, in terms of proximity, tonal quality, the shape his voice was in on that particular night, is utterly consistent based on comparison between Fairy Feller and the sections of White Queen where he's using the vocal mic at the piano.
I agree Fairy Feller doesnot fit. The vocals and the guitars sound so much different than all the other songs from this concert. Freddie's voice sounds too good.[/QUOTE]
Freddie's voice doesn't sound too good by any means - well at least, where it does sound good, it also sounds distinctly doctored. His falsetto line is airy and fairly weak, and as we all know, his voice nearly cracks on 'ploughboy', masked by what's widely assumed to be a 2014 digital correction.
All this isn't to say that he was singing badly on the night - on the contrary, it seems that he was soaring for most of it. But it simply can't be said that his lead vocal for Fairy Feller sounds too perfect to be true, with in mind that much of it's been refined in Pro Tools.
Also, Freddie's voice, in terms of proximity, tonal quality, the shape his voice was in on that particular night, is utterly consistent based on comparison between Fairy Feller and the sections of White Queen where he's using the vocal mic at the piano.
The King Of Rhye
[QUOTE] [b]tomchristie22 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
By the way, was it ever established if they really played Fairy Feller during the March gig, or was it just some soundcheck/studio creation? Freddie's falsetto delivery on the 2nd line of the verse sounds highly suspicious to me.[/QUOTE]
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Basically, everything about the recording and its consistency with the rest of the March concert shows that either you're wrong, or they made a precise and ridiculously extensive effort to make sure it sounded consistent. [/QUOTE]
Exactly..........often the simplest explanation is the right one! (as with a lot of those 'conspiracy theories'........)
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
By the way, was it ever established if they really played Fairy Feller during the March gig, or was it just some soundcheck/studio creation? Freddie's falsetto delivery on the 2nd line of the verse sounds highly suspicious to me.[/QUOTE]
...................
Basically, everything about the recording and its consistency with the rest of the March concert shows that either you're wrong, or they made a precise and ridiculously extensive effort to make sure it sounded consistent. [/QUOTE]
Exactly..........often the simplest explanation is the right one! (as with a lot of those 'conspiracy theories'........)
Biggus Dickus
[QUOTE] [b]tomchristie22 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
By the way, was it ever established if they really played Fairy Feller during the March gig, or was it just some soundcheck/studio creation? Freddie's falsetto delivery on the 2nd line of the verse sounds highly suspicious to me.[/QUOTE]
To go as far as saying it's a studio creation is conspiracy theory level stuff - complete conjecture. More likely is that the falsetto phrase was just loudened, and perhaps doctored a bit, to compensate for it being fairly weakly delivered.
EDIT: Plus, do you really believe Brian completely faked his whole introductory spiel - 'We'd like to do something for you which we don't often do - It's especially for you. This is off the second album ... features Freddie on jangle-box again. It's called the Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke'.
Note also that the sonic quality of his voice & mic are exactly the same compared to him saying 'Do you like our new arrangement' after Great King Rat, about 10 seconds before he starts talking about FFMS.
Furthermore, the piano on Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke shares the same sort of plasticky quality that it does for the entire March album, e.g. on Seven Seas of Rhye.
Basically, everything about the recording and its consistency with the rest of the March concert shows that either you're wrong, or they made a precise and ridiculously extensive effort to make sure it sounded consistent. [/QUOTE]
I've never said I believe it was recorded in soundcheck or in the studio. I've been reading other people raising those questions and asked if people on this forum have any evidence to prove one way or another.
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
By the way, was it ever established if they really played Fairy Feller during the March gig, or was it just some soundcheck/studio creation? Freddie's falsetto delivery on the 2nd line of the verse sounds highly suspicious to me.[/QUOTE]
To go as far as saying it's a studio creation is conspiracy theory level stuff - complete conjecture. More likely is that the falsetto phrase was just loudened, and perhaps doctored a bit, to compensate for it being fairly weakly delivered.
EDIT: Plus, do you really believe Brian completely faked his whole introductory spiel - 'We'd like to do something for you which we don't often do - It's especially for you. This is off the second album ... features Freddie on jangle-box again. It's called the Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke'.
Note also that the sonic quality of his voice & mic are exactly the same compared to him saying 'Do you like our new arrangement' after Great King Rat, about 10 seconds before he starts talking about FFMS.
Furthermore, the piano on Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke shares the same sort of plasticky quality that it does for the entire March album, e.g. on Seven Seas of Rhye.
Basically, everything about the recording and its consistency with the rest of the March concert shows that either you're wrong, or they made a precise and ridiculously extensive effort to make sure it sounded consistent. [/QUOTE]
I've never said I believe it was recorded in soundcheck or in the studio. I've been reading other people raising those questions and asked if people on this forum have any evidence to prove one way or another.
Ale Solan
The only evidence that Fairy Feller's it's a studio creation is sound itself. And sound tells me that it's absolutely live and taken from March's gig. Heavily doctored? Of course, like the rest of Queen live releases from scratch to now.
Ale Solan
Or a complete audience recording from that nite which it never occured so far.
tomchristie22
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
I've never said I believe it was recorded in soundcheck or in the studio. I've been reading other people raising those questions and asked if people on this forum have any evidence to prove one way or another.
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Point taken - I was mistaken to direct my retort at you.
I've never said I believe it was recorded in soundcheck or in the studio. I've been reading other people raising those questions and asked if people on this forum have any evidence to prove one way or another.
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Point taken - I was mistaken to direct my retort at you.
Biggus Dickus
[QUOTE] [b]tomchristie22 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
I've never said I believe it was recorded in soundcheck or in the studio. I've been reading other people raising those questions and asked if people on this forum have any evidence to prove one way or another.
[/QUOTE]
Point taken - I was mistaken to direct my retort at you. [/QUOTE]
No problem. I only wish that the people who are involved with these releases will spill the beans one day.
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
I've never said I believe it was recorded in soundcheck or in the studio. I've been reading other people raising those questions and asked if people on this forum have any evidence to prove one way or another.
[/QUOTE]
Point taken - I was mistaken to direct my retort at you. [/QUOTE]
No problem. I only wish that the people who are involved with these releases will spill the beans one day.
Mrmarioanonym
maybe they played it in concert and then heavily altered it for the release with little of the actual live performance remaining?
Ale Solan
[QUOTE] [b]Mrmarioanonym wrote:[/b]
maybe they played it in concert and then heavily altered it for the release with little of the actual live performance remaining?[/QUOTE]
Why having the whole gig in excellent quality and only Fairy Feller's being "bad" quality in part?
maybe they played it in concert and then heavily altered it for the release with little of the actual live performance remaining?[/QUOTE]
Why having the whole gig in excellent quality and only Fairy Feller's being "bad" quality in part?