There´s something that i wanted to ask this forum for quite a while. So, i have heard on the Portuguese radio (two times already!), when the DJ announces Innuendo, that John Deacon made a statement by asking not to appear in the video. I don´t know if it was a political statement, but i got the idea that it was to show his dissatisfaction with something.
Because i was not paying attention i never heard the beginning of the story, so i´ve missed what statement was John making when he decided not to have his image painted.
Now, i like to think of myself as a guy who has some deep knolwedge on Queen, but i have never heard of this in the past (and i wasn´t aware that he´s not featured in the video!). So, i checked the video to see if the DJ was right, and he is right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2N0TkfrQhY
John Deacon is the only Queen member that wasn´t animated with live footage or footage from other videos (the exception is the beginning of the video with "that" Breakthru footage, and his caricature picture on the Flamenco section - that also appears on the album "artistic" pictures). But the point still stands!
During the performance of the song John is the only one who isn´t there. And so, i´m assuming that DoRo only did that at someone´s request. My first reaction was "No way! John? Ah, another rumour." But after i´ve watched the video to check John, i´m willing to accept that something happened for DoRo not to include him.
So, my question is, why did John asked not to be in the video? Or, anyone knows why he isn´t featured there?
Thank you in advance.
P.S- I hope i´m not the only one who wasn´t aware of this :-)
musicland munich · Member since
The Video was directed by Jerry Hibbert and Rudi Dolzal, so it wasn`t a DORO standalone production. But it`s an interesting observation / topic indeed.
Jedi Knight · Member since
Well, in the video I can see John's footage from Wembley, I Want It All, Breakthru, The Invisible Man, Scandal and The Miracle videos.
Mr.QueenFan · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Jedi Knight wrote:[/b]
Well, in the video I can see John's footage from Wembley, I Want It All, Breakthru, The Invisible Man, Scandal and The Miracle videos.[/QUOTE]
Can you point out where in the video?
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Another thing i find very interesting is that they substituted John´s face with the character they have created for him in the footage from the "I want it all" intro (you have to freeze the video to see it more clearly).
This is very interesting!
http://youtu.be/g2N0TkfrQhY?t=148
musicland munich · Member since
^Yes he`s right BUT they choosed a different Art (style) for him. Freddie,Bri and Rog were more human-like/ Cartoon and John is shown as a more surreal colored character
Thank you for the reply, Jedi Knight.
But your pictures just prove the point that John isn´t there. Of course that character playing bass is to represent John, but no parts of John´s body were used to make that character. And that was the point i was making, because looking back i think there must be some truth to what the DJ said on the radio.
Mr.QueenFan · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]musicland munich wrote:[/b]
^Yes he`s right BUT they choosed a different Art (style) for him. Freddie,Bri and Rog were more human-like/ Cartoon and John is shown as a more surreal colored character[/QUOTE]
It could be, and i think that is the general idea in the articles about the video. But what i think it´s strange, now that i´m looking at it more closely, is that John´s body wasn´t used in any way.
That is what i now found strange - after hearing the DJ on the radio. They used Freddie, Brian and Roger live performances, but they didn´t use John´s.
I now believe that they went for that surreal colored character as a second option, and not what they had in mind in the beginning. Even though, it´s a great video, i don´t see a reason for it to be screened that way from the beginning, because it meant that one Queen member wouldn´t be featured in the video, and i don´t see anyone - but a Queen member - making that kind of decision to begin with.
Maybe John really requested for them not to use him in the video. And i suppose the DJ must have heard the story somewhere. These guys in radios have access to information that sometimes don´t make to the news.
Jedi Knight · Member since
John IS in the video. The animators use John's movements in the same way they did with Freddie, Brian and Roger, but, as musicland munich says, they choosed a different art style for him. So it's not a different character, is just John in surrealistic style.
Doga · Member since
John is in the Innuendo video.
In Innuendo, the four members are represented in the style of great artists, Freddie was in the style of Da Vinci, and John was the Picasso's.
Check this at 0:59:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2N0TkfrQhY
Is John playing the bass! Now check El Guernica, Picasso's most famous paint.
http://www.disfrutamadrid.com/fotos/guernica.jpg
antiden · Member since
Ha-ha, didn't you guys watch Champions Of The World documentary?? Jerry Hibbert clearly states the concept behind the images of Queen members in Innuendo video. Doga is absolutely right.
musicland munich · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]antiden wrote:[/b]
Ha-ha, didn't you guys watch Champions Of The World documentary?? Jerry Hibbert clearly states the concept behind the images of Queen members in Innuendo video. Doga is absolutely right.[/QUOTE]
I`ve mentioned Jerry in my first post ! But I`ve watched COTW in its entire length... about 18 years ago...maybe I should consult a neurologist.
Wiley · Member since
Well, yes, each Queen member is modeled after a painter's style: Freddie was Leonardo Da Vinci, Roger was Jackson Pollock (?), Brian was __??, and John was (very obviously) Picasso. End of the mystery.
Bohardy · Member since
The DJ's got the wrong end of the stick, surely.
It's well documented that the directors wanted to represent the four members of the band using a different artistic style for each. And for all four, you can clearly tell that existing footage was used as a basis for the animations. So to say that John 'isn't in the video', is absurd, as he's in the video to the same extent that the rest are. It's just that his animation is more extreme, and further removed from the original footage than is the case for the others.
To complete the list of styles:
Freddie - Da Vinci
Brian - Victorian etchings
Roger - Jackson Pollock
John - Picasso
Rick · Member since
If anyone had to be unrecognizable in the video, it had to be John, right?
