The video aside, that the band that released the early material could also release I Want To Break Free/The Miracle (specifically the song, but equally largely the whole album) staggers me. Utter Euro-Pop shite. .[/QUOTE]
The song "The Miracle" is a superb example of Freddie´s melodic ear. It´s way ahead of anybody in Pop/Rock today. Even Brian is in awe with it.
And i like IWTBF. It has a great melody. Of course it´s pop, and John made the right decision not to include Brian on this song (it fits the sound), and there´s a reason why it is still one of the biggest Queen songs in latin countries and Europe. It sounds fresh!
I´m not against pop when it´s made right, and IWTBF was made right and it has Freddie doing a great vocal take with probably his most beautiful voice tone of his career - 1984.
[QUOTE] [b]onedunpark wrote:[/b]
(...)the fact that it never made Forever is absolutely criminal and a clear sign of the extent to which he is marginallised, by choice to a degree perhaps - but certainly by the other two. "He still enjoys the cheques" says RT. There's a statement that lacks class and is utterly unnecessary
Hmm, that largely sums up their output as an Organisation since Deaky decide to step back from it (and i accept that he was - musically - culpable for IWTBF and some of the rest before it's pointed out !! )
Rant over. Going back to my red wine.
.[/QUOTE]
I don´t agree with this at all!! I love John Deacon but he´s hardly the victim in this process. John has the right not to be involved, but the guy doesn´t even has the decency - and the well manners - to respond to the Rhys Thomas letters requesting him to appear on the documentaries that the band was producing for the 40 years celebration. A simple no would do it!
He´s the one marginallizing the other two!
It´s time for people to stop seeing John as the victim, because as far as i´m concerned he knows damn well what he´s doing. Wasn´t he the one that packed his stuff around 1985 and went to Bali on vacations at the same time that they had booked a studio to work on a project (maybe one vision?), And didn´t he disappear in 1974 to complete his studies without saying jack shit to the band?
I mean, he´s very lucky to be in a band with three gentleman, because Axl Rose or Liam Galagher wouldn´t put up with this.
He doesn´t want anything to do with the band, not even as friends. He doesn´t talk to them in person, and from the last 14 years i only heard Brian and Roger saying that he responded to them with letters.
He doesn´t appear on the DVD´s extras - audio commentary, and he doesn´t contribute with anything to Queen related products- He doesn´t even says nothing to the fans for 20 years.
So i don´t understand why people keep attacking Brian and Roger, making them sound has bullies, when in fact John doesn´t give a shit about Queen anymore. Considering the circumstances i think that both Brian and Roger are taking care of him, because they still include his songs in many Queen projects. John´s checks must have increased in value in the last 15 years because of Brian and Roger.
And Roger is right - he enjoys the checks. John Deacon wrote in the Brian May site in 2003 that he was happy doing nothing and receiving the checks. Brian later confirmed it was John.
So, if his songs don´t appear in Forever, maybe it´s time for him to start showing at business meetings.
Oh, and by the way, before people starting talking about John being fragile. That´s BS! I´ve seen pictures of him with his family on vacation and weddings in the past five years or so.
So i still believe that he is a functional human being that many Queen fans chose to see as having mental problems, because the alternative would be that he´s the one not behaving good in this situaltion. It´s called denial!
He has the right to do what he wants with his life, i just don´t get why Brian and Roger get attacked by it. It was his choice!
Sebastian · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
John made the right decision not to include Brian on this song[/QUOTE]
Brian is there of course. Yeah, the solo's Fred Mandel on a synth, but those three-part harmonies on the intro didn't just play themselves.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
I´m not against pop when it´s made right[/QUOTE]
A well-constructed pop song takes as much time, effort, skills, talent, etc., as a well-constructed rock song, or a well-constructed blues song, etc.
My problem with 'Break Free', personally, has never been the fact it's a pop song. It's about the predictable lyrics ('You and I' and 'Spread Your Wings' are virtually Shakespeare compared to it) and the drum machine. In that sense, I feel there are dozens and dozens of Queen songs which are way better than this one, and perhaps also a dozen of John songs, which is nearly all of them, really.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
John has the right not to be involved, but the guy doesn´t even has the decency - and the well manners - to respond to the Rhys Thomas letters[/QUOTE]
We've only heard one side of the story there.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
I mean, he´s very lucky to be in a band with three gentleman, because Axl Rose or Liam Galagher wouldn´t put up with this.[/QUOTE]
He was lucky to be with them, but they were lucky to be with him as well. Axl and Liam, good as they are, have also faced the consequences of the way they've treated others. Had Roger, Fred and Brian been like that, Queen would've ended way sooner and would've been way less successful. So it's not like they were charitable enough to give John the honour of being with them, it's more like they were all benefiting from their partnership and they all needed each other. The band wouldn't function without any one of the four, and it shows even nowadays, when they're essentially a cover band featuring two members but playing mostly songs that were written and recorded between 1974 and 1991, and there's nothing wrong with that.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
He doesn´t appear on the DVD´s extras - audio commentary, and he doesn´t contribute with anything to Queen related products- He doesn´t even says nothing to the fans for 20 years.
[/QUOTE]
He's entitled not to do so. He owes them and us absolutely nothing. If he ever wants to show up for one of those, that's great, but if he doesn't, he doesn't, full stop, that doesn't make him a villain either.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
So i don´t understand why people keep attacking Brian and Roger, making them sound has bullies[/QUOTE]
I hardly think anyone with a minimum of sense would accuse them of that, especially when we've got no idea of what's actually going on between those three.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
when in fact John doesn´t give a shit about Queen anymore.[/QUOTE]
We've only heard one side of the story.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
Considering the circumstances i think that both Brian and Roger are taking care of him, because they still include his songs in many Queen projects.[/QUOTE]
Well, it'd be ridiculous to make a greatest hits compilation without having their (once) greatest hit ever, wouldn't it? Again, it's not like they're doing it out of mercy; 'Break Free' works on a live setting because most people want to hear it, so it wouldn't make sense to discard it.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
Oh, and by the way, before people starting talking about John being fragile. That´s BS! I´ve seen pictures of him with his family on vacation and weddings in the past five years or so.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, because a fragile person cannot possibly attend a wedding or go on holiday...
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
because the alternative would be that he´s the one not behaving good in this situaltion. It´s called denial![/QUOTE]
No, that's not 'the' alternative, that's just 'an' alternative. Life's not black and white, and it's not a greyscale either. There are millions of colours, and not being able to see the infrared or the ultraviolet doesn't mean they don't exist.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
He has the right to do what he wants with his life, i just don´t get why Brian and Roger get attacked by it. It was his choice![/QUOTE]
I don't think they get 'attacked'. You wanna see people getting 'attacked' for decisions about a former band (or a band with a former line-up, whatever you wanna call it)? Ask Dimebag. But as for Brian and Roger, no matter how much people moan about people allegedly moaning about allegedly everything, the Queen community's largely peaceful and sensible.
Yeah, of course, there are people who don't like their choice of Adam, Paul or whoever; there are people who don't like the use of the 'Queen' name without Fred and/or John; there are people who consider their appearances on X-Factor and American Idol as selling out; there are people who disagree with their side projects; there are people who don't like some of the new releases. So what? Are we all supposed to worship everything they do just because they're two brilliant musicians?
Truth is, the most the vast majority of Queen fans/listeners/buyers do if they don't like what they're doing is not buying the records or not going to the concerts, that's it. Yeah, a few complain about Adam or whatever but, again, it's not like they're getting actual life threats or people are killing each other like religious fanatics.
chaim · Member since
Freddie spoke in some interview at the time about John "putting all those guitars" in there. The way Freddie spoke about the song made it look like it was very much John's baby.
In terms of chords it's very much something John would come up with IMO. Someone else may have suggested "let's cut the tempo in half in the bridge", but that kind of stuff happens all the time in bands, I assume. The chords in the bridge when Freddie sings "But will we be together for ever. What will be my love, can't you see that I just don't know" remind me more of Brian than Freddie, actually - perhaps more post-Races than pre-Races Brian.
Martin Packer · Member since
Whatever we might TECHNICALLY say about Miracle and IWTBF (and I have no complaints but I'm a rank slouch musically) they are - to some of us - highly effective as songs. I love them both.
But the value to me of this discussion is that it's prompting me to give Races another (long overdue) listen, and in particular You and I (a song I initially didn't care for).
Mr.QueenFan · Member since
@Sebastian:
But i agree with almost everything you´ve said. But the fact is, that in Queen fans sites - Queenzone and Queenonline - they don´t give Brian and Roger the benefit of doubt over John. It´s like John is the saint and the other two are devils. And i think it´s far away from that!
When i look at the behaviour of these three within the band in an objective way, without trying to find excuses, the only thing i see is that John doesn´t go out of his way to make life easier for Brian and Roger in things concerning the business, the music - The Art! Never - Ever!
We can find all sorts of excuses for his behaviour, but to say that Brian and Roger are marginalizing John when it seems it´s the other way round doesn´t feel good to me. Brian and Roger are taking good care of John and Queen´s legacy. John isn´t taking good care of Brian and Roger, and Queen. This is what´s hapening in an objective way!
Now we can spaculate why that is so, but the ones who are taking care of Queen are Brian and Roger. But it seems that it´s easier to say that Brian and Roger are ruining Queen´s legacy - while their working their asses of - while John is the one respecting Queen´s legacy by opting to stay out and not even want anything to do with new products or old reissues.
That´s why i used the word denial! That´s the only explanation why people get to such conclusions. They refuse to take a deeper look into what is really happening!
Now, some things about your post:
[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
John made the right decision not to include Brian on this song[/QUOTE]
Brian is there of course. Yeah, the solo's Fred Mandel on a synth, but those three-part harmonies on the intro didn't just play themselves.
.[/QUOTE]
Of course i meant the solo, because that´s the thing people most talk about.
A well-constructed pop song takes as much time, effort, skills, talent, etc., as a well-constructed rock song, or a well-constructed blues song, etc.
My problem with 'Break Free', personally, has never been the fact it's a pop song. It's about the predictable lyrics ('You and I' and 'Spread Your Wings' are virtually Shakespeare compared to it) and the drum machine. In that sense, I feel there are dozens and dozens of Queen songs which are way better than this one, and perhaps also a dozen of John songs, which is nearly all of them, really. .[/QUOTE]
The lyrics are simple but effective! And Queen were never known for their lyrics, unlike Pink Floyd. What IWTBF has, that is a big part of it´s charm is Freddie´s voice. It´s perfect, and so is the instrumentation. Even the electronic drums don´t sound off because it works with that particular kind of sound. The song is beautifully produced - specially the single version. And the video is genius!
But i respect that you and others don´t like it. What i can garantee you is that the majority of people (regular radio listeners) love this song. So, it serves it´s purpose!
John has the right not to be involved, but the guy doesn´t even has the decency - and the well manners - to respond to the Rhys Thomas letters[/QUOTE]
We've only heard one side of the story there. .[/QUOTE]
I don´t need John´s part of the story here. Rhy´s Thomas told this on the Reddit session he did with Queen fans. He didn´t judged John, he just said that John didn´t answer his letter requesting his involvement in the project. Is John out of a telephone?
I mean, even if he doesn´t want to talk to Brian and Roger, can´t he use Jim Beach to answer some requests? I think that ignoring your business partners (they´re clearly not friends!) is not a very nice thing to do. But that´s just me!
If John is still functioning as a human being, this is not good behaviour. He still has business connections with Queen, because he still receives the checks.
I mean, he´s very lucky to be in a band with three gentleman, because Axl Rose or Liam Galagher wouldn´t put up with this.[/QUOTE]
He was lucky to be with them, but they were lucky to be with him as well. Axl and Liam, good as they are, have also faced the consequences of the way they've treated others. (...) .[/QUOTE]
I agree with what you said on this post. The fact that i brought Axl Rose and Liam Ghalagher is to keep things in perspective. Brian May is not these two guys. There´s lots of Innuendoes going around about John and Brian in the 80´s or 90´s, like it´s always Brian´s fault. Brian must be difficult to deal with, etc. But the fact is, until he works with Axl Rose and Liam Ghalagher he doesn´t know what difficult means.
Forget about Brian and Roger. What about Freddie and Jim Beach? We all know the story about the band geting into the studio in 1985 and finding a note from John saying that he has traveled to Bali. I mean, what´s the excuse here?
He doesn´t feel that he has to give them satisfactions? He has the best job in the world, and yet this is how he behaves towards the other three?
It´s not cool! Of course now they laugh about it, but this is very umprofessional behaviour towards Brian, Roger, Freddie and Jim Beach also. Of course in the end, we can find examples in the other three members behaviour as well, but John did it too!
And of course there must be an explanation. But in John´s case, it always exists one. Any other employer in a "normal" job with this kind of behaviour would be fired. John has problems, but in the end we all have problems, and we still have to function and respect other people even when we don´t agree with them.
He doesn´t appear on the DVD´s extras - audio commentary, and he doesn´t contribute with anything to Queen related products- He doesn´t even says nothing to the fans for 20 years.
.[/QUOTE]
He's entitled not to do so. He owes them and us absolutely nothing. If he ever wants to show up for one of those, that's great, but if he doesn't, he doesn't, full stop, that doesn't make him a villain either. .[/QUOTE]
And that´s my point! He can do what he wishes, but the other two aren´t vilains either because they choose carry on. And this is not an answer to John, because i´ve never heard him complain either. This is aimed at the fans who find a way to turn things around and start attacking Brian and Roger saying that they´re the ones ruining Queen´s legacy when they are the ones responsible for keeping Queen´s name alive (of course, their backing catalogue helps!), but they care about Queen enough to release products and tour.
And to find a way to victimize John on Brian´s and Roger´s hands is just ridiculous, because Brian and Roger are taking care of John´s business too!
So i don´t understand why people keep attacking Brian and Roger, making them sound has bullies[/QUOTE]
I hardly think anyone with a minimum of sense would accuse them of that, especially when we've got no idea of what's actually going on between those three. .[/QUOTE]
But it´s implied! When people say that John took more hollydays when Brian was around they make it sound that Brian is some kind of a bad person to be around with. Again, that´s why i brought the names of Axl Rose and Liam Ghallagher.
Brian and Roger have the right to be pissed at John also, but i don´t see anyone contemplating this scenario.
Considering the circumstances i think that both Brian and Roger are taking care of him, because they still include his songs in many Queen projects.[/QUOTE]
Well, it'd be ridiculous to make a greatest hits compilation without having their (once) greatest hit ever, wouldn't it? Again, it's not like they're doing it out of mercy; 'Break Free' works on a live setting because most people want to hear it, so it wouldn't make sense to discard it. .[/QUOTE]
So, we have to take into consideration that the inclusion or not of "You and I" and other John´s songs in Queen´s projects are artistic decisions also, and not vindictive decisions against John, even if we - the fans - don´t agree with it. It works both ways!
Oh, and by the way, before people starting talking about John being fragile. That´s BS! I´ve seen pictures of him with his family on vacation and weddings in the past five years or so.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, because a fragile person cannot possibly attend a wedding or go on holiday... .[/QUOTE]
No, because a fragile person who´s still able to drive a car, like John is - according to last year´s paparazzi pictures - can still function as a Human Being. Therefore he isn´t as bad as people want to picture him. He can still talk to people on the phone and attend business meetings, even if he doesn´t want to be a part of music anymore. That´s called "taking care of his part of the business".
There seems to be this idea that John is alway mourning his long lost friend - Freddie - and he´s so fragile that he doesn´t leave his home. Well, that´s not what the pictures of him tell me. He seems to be enjoying life - as he should!
For me, the biggest eye opener about John was while people were still with the fairytale story about John still mourning Freddie, he was fucking strippers like the rock star that he is. So much for the depressed man, still mourning his long lost friend, never leaves his home, huh?!
I´m not saying that he doesn´t mourn Freddie anymore, but to say that those feelings are as strong now, as they were in 1991/92 is ridiculous.
He´s just a normal man. We don´t need to make him look like a flower to justify some of his actions. That´s the point of me bringing the word fragile!
I´m not saying he is not sensible, but clearly if he was that mentally fragile and was under some heavy medication, he wouldn´t be allowed to drive a car. That was my point!
And i don´t mean to offend anyone with this mental conditions, under these circumstances that still can drive a car. My point is, we don´t know!
So, i don´t understand why people got to such a conclusion as this one, when what i see is the opposite.
because the alternative would be that he´s the one not behaving good in this situaltion. It´s called denial![/QUOTE]
No, that's not 'the' alternative, that's just 'an' alternative. Life's not black and white, and it's not a greyscale either. There are millions of colours, and not being able to see the infrared or the ultraviolet doesn't mean they don't exist. .[/QUOTE]
Yes, you´re right, but this seems to be the only alernative that fans don´t want to consider. They don´t mind making Brian and Roger villains, but they refuse to look at this alternative. That´s why i brought it up!
I don´t believe anyone is a villain in this story. They´re just living their lives the best way they can.
He has the right to do what he wants with his life, i just don´t get why Brian and Roger get attacked by it. It was his choice![/QUOTE]
I don't think they get 'attacked'.[/QUOTE]
You know better than this Sebastian. You know very well that they have been heavily attacked by the online communities - Queenzone and Queenonline. Specially Adam Lambert was the target of many homophobic comments both here in Queenzone and in Queenonline.
Edit: If you haven´t folowed the tour with Adam on Queenonline, then i apologize for saying that you are aware of the attacks on Adam. You just have to take my word on it!
There´s nothing that Brian and Roger do that doesn´t get heavily criticized, yet John´s decision to retire is applauded when he doesn´t bring anything to the table anymore (and that´s his right!)
My post was just to bring a little perspective, because all we can do is speculate. I just don´t think it´s fair to ONLY speculate against Brian and Roger, because as you say :we don´t know the full story.
mooghead · Member since
"John doesn´t give a shit about Queen anymore "
Or perhaps cares too much...
cmsdrums · Member since
Seb says that 'we've only heard one side of the story' in relation to John's silence'......I think that's the whole point isn't it?!!
*goodco* · Member since
As to the original topic, I hear a lot of Brian's influences (especially BVs).
It is possible. And then it's possible John said 'screw this, no BVs on Spread Your Wings).
Anyhoo.....the weakest track on the album, that I gained appreciation for after Hot Space was released.
Mr.QueenFan · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]
Seb says that 'we've only heard one side of the story' in relation to John's silence'......I think that's the whole point isn't it?!![/QUOTE]
No! We don´t know any part of the story.
The only thing we know according to Brian and Roger is that John´s opted out, and in Brian´s own words Brian is not only mourning Freddie but in a way he´s mourning the absence of John in his life too. They never gave an explanation, because i don´t think they know. At times Roger seemed pissed at John´s decision, but that is only MY personal interpretation of Roger´s words.
Everything else are speculations, and those speculations always go against Brian and Roger for no reason whatsoever than to bring them down in the Queen community.
People even suggested that it was because of Brian that John opted to stay out, when there´s nothing to support this theory. That was the point of my post.
But i will not continue to hijack this thread with this issue anymore. It´s just my view on it.
Sebastian · Member since
@ Mr. QueenFan: A lot of interesting points on your posts, but I'll just address the final ones for the moment being:
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
You know very well that they have been heavily attacked by the online communities - Queenzone and Queenonline.
[/QUOTE]
I don't think so. Nobody's, to the best of my knowledge, tried to murder them, physically assault them, spit on them, burn their records, go to their concerts just to boycott them, try to persuade people to ostracise them, etc. A few comments (with varying degrees of eloquence) about how they're being heroes or villains are as harmless as they can get. No need to get so excited.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
Specially Adam Lambert was the target of many homophobic comments both here in Queenzone and in Queenonline.
[/QUOTE]
And probably in other places as well but that's just the matter of homophobia, which is far larger than just whoever Maylor choose to collaborate with.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
There´s nothing that Brian and Roger do that doesn´t get heavily criticized, yet John´s decision to retire is applauded when he doesn´t bring anything to the table anymore (and that´s his right!)
[/QUOTE]
Thousands of people have applauded Brian's and Roger's actions. You can see the huge crowds who went to their concerts with either Paul or Adam, etc., and the amount of people who've bought their new records, etc. They're not 'universally' applauded and that's what seems to piss some people off. Not everybody's going to agree with what they do, not everybody's gonna like it, it's as simple as that.
So, if some people want to 'beatify' John for not being involved, that's their right as well. You might agree or disagree with that, but again, the whole deal's almost entirely harmless.
Personally, I'm not interested in QAL or QPR activities, and I haven't even looked up tickets whenever they've performed a concert within driving (or, once, walking) distance from me. That works really well because I get to save money for stuff I'm more interested in and because those tickets can be sold to people who will definitely enjoy it far more than I would.
It is true that some people just like to moan and some people are such stepfords that they'll welcome anything, but those are just exaggerated archetypes. The vast majority of people are sensible enough to make up their minds and have their reasons for it. Not everyone who goes to QAL concerts is a sold-out poseur who's musically ignorant and doesn't know anything about the 'real' Queen, and not everyone who refuses to go is a bitter-grumpy-living-in-the-past-arrogant-self-defined-legacy-protector-purist who will never accept anything that doesn't include Freddie (or John).
Maybe someone genuinely doesn't care for Adam, and that doesn't mean they're homophobic or narrow-minded; likewise, maybe someone genuinely likes Adam's voice, and that's absolutely fine.
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
It is true that some people just like to moan and some people are such stepfords that they'll welcome anything, but those are just exaggerated archetypes. The vast majority of people are sensible enough to make up their minds and have their reasons for it. Not everyone who goes to QAL concerts is a sold-out poseur who's musically ignorant and doesn't know anything about the 'real' Queen, and not everyone who refuses to go is a bitter-grumpy-living-in-the-past-arrogant-self-defined-legacy-protector-purist who will never accept anything that doesn't include Freddie (or John).
Maybe someone genuinely doesn't care for Adam, and that doesn't mean they're homophobic or narrow-minded; likewise, maybe someone genuinely likes Adam's voice, and that's absolutely fine.[/QUOTE]
Well said, I wish I had come up with that! lol
Yeah, those are the two extremes and not everyone is like either one, but I do see some people that would fall under one or the other of those categories. Maybe I just notice them more because they're the most obnoxious :D
And I probably pay more attention to the Lambert-bashers cus I'm in the other camp!
mooghead · Member since
"Not everyone who goes to QAL concerts is a sold-out poseur who's musically ignorant and doesn't know anything about the 'real' Queen, and not everyone who refuses to go is a bitter-grumpy-living-in-the-past-arrogant-self-defined-legacy-protector-purist who will never accept anything that doesn't include Freddie (or John)."
I know 2 people who went to see Roger and Brian and Wankbert last time round and they both said "I would never have thought I would ever have gone to a Queen concert but it was better than I thought it would be", make of that what you will. I didn't go BTW, I was too busy shaving my bollocks with a cheese grater.... ;-)
Sebastian · Member since
I think 'self-appointed' would be far better than 'self-defined'. You live and learn :p
Mr.QueenFan · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
Thousands of people have applauded Brian's and Roger's actions. You can see the huge crowds who went to their concerts with either Paul or Adam, etc., and the amount of people who've bought their new records, etc. They're not 'universally' applauded and that's what seems to piss some people off. Not everybody's going to agree with what they do, not everybody's gonna like it, it's as simple as that.
.[/QUOTE]
Very good point!
And sometimes even i seem to forget about this, because i get so focused about what goes around on the internet that i forget about the thousands of people attending the concerts.
It´s the few negatives that get more attention, and even i need to be aware of that. Thanks for the reminder!
But maybe my frustration isn´t as much about the negativity towards them, but more about the lack of moderation on this site, and the moderation in Queenonline where i saw some bad things being said about Brian, Roger and Adam that were allowed by the moderators.
And it isn´t the criticism either! Is the way the criticism is expressed. I don´t have a problem in engaging in a discussion/conversation with you because you are respectful even when you are criticizing the music or the products. You give an explanation of why you don´t like it, and it makes a fine read. At least it makes me think and even challenge some of my own conclusions.
I have learned a lot about video with the Chiefmouse works and explanations in the announce section. It made me change my opinion about what i thought were good videos. I know now what to look for in a video and i can make a better judgement because of it.
Then you have people who give negative opinions because they only want attention. That´s when i used to get mad - now i just ignore them!
I don´t agree with everything Brian and Roger do either. The last thing that really took me out of my confort zone was the "Badger song" and the other song that said something like "i vote for Brian May". I was really tough on Brian for doing that. If i could, i would go back in time and erase my post, but it was from the heart!
Because i love Brian so much, that it was hard for me to see him becoming a parody for the politicians. He completely missed his "Monty Python" moment.
But i would never call Brian a senile old man and call myself a fan. Unless it was part of a joke or a humurous moment. And those moments i love to have also, but that´s not what i´m talking about here.
