Live in Buenos Aires 1981 [Chief Mouse 2016 Edition]

Neat Video does pretty fine job with Merqry's sample. While it is noisy, it is not as noisy as I expected. There have certainly been way worse videos. Still, even if cleaned, in my opinion, it could be a similar alternative at best, so I'm not sure it's worth the hassle cleaning it and replacing the logo part. Merqry's video could be used for that crowd footage with Save Me audio he mentioned if we decide to make another version in future, and also the complete audio (if QZ experts say it's better - I'm purely video guy) could be synced to it from his version. Also, perhaps Kurgan could share his rip? It would help quite a lot with replacing the QTV logo with only '9' logo. Peter already proposed to send me his '9' logo non-QTV version but it is worse quality than Kurgan's video (even Kurgan's quality isn't as good as Merqry's video) so I don't quite feel like using it knowing that Kurgan might share his in near or distant future (if at all, hopefully). If he decides to share it, it would help creating the best version of Buenos Aires. Just brainstorming here. .

Thanks MERQRY, I am understanding the situation now. Good luck with fixing the other betacam.

Very interesting tests with Neat Video Chief, I stand corrected. :) I use it for noise due to low render time with unbiased rendering: [url=http://orig15.deviantart.net/1f6a/f/2013/278/7/2/realistc_3d_render_by_eaglespare-d6p9w6u.png]http://orig15.deviantart.net/1f6a/f/2013/278/7/2/realistc_3d_render_by_eaglespare-d6p9w6u.png[/url]

 I'm not sure whether this new source is actually better than the old one. It's a bit sharper, but doesn't really have significantly more detail. The colours are worse.

Well Chief. Looking at the B&W clips you played with, AVIsynth has produced the best results: the piano still has the texture but loses the source faults.

I taped BA from QTV myself back in '99 on SVHS and that subsequent DVD did the rounds, but it has the QTV logo.
That's why I wondered if mine was the source you'd used.

I'm more than happy to send you a DV AVI rip, but whether it would ultimately be better than your cleaned up version I don't know.

I do also have a VHS copy somewhere from an earlier period and also a VHS copy from a VHS off-air of the 1991 repeat, but I don't think either will be much better.

Oscar, looking at your image I see now why you would denoise it. I wonder why it comes out so noisy though? I've never done these kind of 3D renders so excuse my lack of knowledge :-)

Brians Wig, perhaps you could mux out and send some sample(s) of your DV AVI rip? I'd love to take a look at it.

Physically based progressive renderers use something called raytracing, which means that they simulate rays of light to render the 3D scenes. The CPU can only fire a certain amount of rays/second, which means that the image will be "under-sampled" and noisy until the software have traced enough rays of light to make the picture noise free. This is pretty much the same principle as in photography, when high shutter speeds and high ISO will lead to noisy images, since the sensor hasn't received enough light to make a completely accurate representation of what you're photographing.

As rendering of noise free images usually takes a few minutes, or even hours for more complicated scenes, you sometimes have to rely on noise reduction for acceptable render times in animations.

This is extremely off topic though! :)

Nice analogy. Makes sense now ^^ I've only used Blender before. Used some 20th Century Fox sort of template and changed the texts, took hours to render it. Maybe 12 hours for that several seconds video. Looked pretty damn good though! I should get a new computer, working with these Queen videos would be so much more fun (it's already fun but the encoding times piss me off). 2GB RAM and 2.5 GHZ dual core Pentium can only do so much!

You definitely deserve a decent i5 or i7 machine! Don't know if your software supports GPU acceleration for encoding/conversion as well?

Bad news about the BETACAM :-(

it is a lot more broken than i thought!

http://fotos.subefotos.com/1fa3c948d38762c45e556823e9dd9dffo.jpg

http://fotos.subefotos.com/a90df160153af88b6ee950747ce086e9o.jpg

Somebody here know how to fix it? I have fixed some vhs in my life but Beta´s are a mistery for me. I don´t know if the content is worth for all the work it will take me to repair it.

Ah, i had uploaded my whole Buenos Aires tapes to Youtube, but copyright deleted it.

[QUOTE] [b]MERQRY wrote:[/b]
Bad news about the BETACAM :-(
it is a lot more broken than i thought!
http://fotos.subefotos.com/1fa3c948d38762c45e556823e9dd9dffo.jpg
http://fotos.subefotos.com/a90df160153af88b6ee950747ce086e9o.jpg
Somebody here know how to fix it? I have fixed some vhs in my life but Beta´s are a mystery for me. I don´t know if the content is worth for all the work it will take me to repair it.[/QUOTE]
No wonder you are confused!!
I have two betamax machines and have also had a betacam in the past.
What you have there are TWO full reels in one cassette (30 min each judging by pic).
If one side is full the other side should be EMPTY!
Somebody has put them in the cassette together for whatever reason.

Good news - You have twice as much footage as you thought you had.
Bad news - It might be footage of anything, or even betamax!!

More good news - tapes look intact and in good condition, so this is probably easily sorted.
Bad news - you need another empty case.

Even more good news - Betamax cassette housing is the same as betacam (your tape is smaller than VHS right?)
Betamax tapes are cheaper and easier to find.

So a transplant into a replacement housing is what is required, so that an EMPTY reel is paired with a full one.
I've done this loads of times, a little fiddly but nothing too difficult.
Lastly, betacam tapes rotate at a far faster speed than betamax, so be careful all the springs and clips are put in correctly.
When you open up the donor betamax/betacam cassette take a photo of how everything is set out and use it as a guide.
Or simply open up the other good betacam tape you already have and copy the layout.

NB: Betacam and betamax are entirely different formats so one won't play on the other.
Betacam has two sizes, small is same size as betamax and run up to 30 minutes.
The larger size tapes only fit in betacam players and are longer in duration.
http://www.video99.co.uk/beta/betacam_machines.jpg

Unfortunately I can't help you with the tape ( I'm like you - I have fixed several VHS tapes but I have never seen a Beta ) but uploading anything to youtube is a pretty bad idea, mainly if you plan to monetize it.
If you for some reason don't want to upload it here, may I recommend dailymotion? Their rules are less strict and your video will remain there until somebody manually reports it. Of course the best way for all of us would be if you would upload a DVD quality transfer here :-)

See my post before Pittrek's on how to sort out the issue.

Just seen your post Merqry, and Kurgan is spot on.
A betamax tape should be easy to find on ebay and you can clear out the tape from the 2nd beta and link the betacam tape to the clear leader tape.

Would you be capturing to DV-AVI rather than mpeg2?
It would be worth you keeping that larger sized Master capture incase it's ever needed again and also sending a copy of it to Chief Mouse or Pittrek to be worked on rather than a compressed mpeg2....

2nd that. Transferring stuff to the outdated MPEG 2 DVD format is a waste of time IF it's possible to do a DV-AVI transfer.

Many thanks Kurgan! I read your post carefully and it´s very informative.

The cassette housing of the reels is Betamax. But the case is from a betacam sp. So: The reels could be Betamax or Betacam. But if -like you said- the cassette houing of both formats are the same there wont be any problem there. I only have an old betacam player, in the case the reels are betamax i have to search for a betamax player, right? I guess they are cheaper than a betacam player. Or maybe i will try t find some company to did the transfer.
I will try to find a betamax housing for the second reel. This cassettes comes from the archive of a tv station. I don´t know why they stored it in such that strange way. I´m pretty sure it has any Queen footage on it cause the cassette label says "Queen en la Argentina -Beta- 8009. Susana Rinaldi -Beta- 8010". The first reel has a paper that says "8009" stamped on the "plastic circle" that allow the first reel, so it contains any Queen fotage almost for sure. The second reel could be the Susana Rinaldi footage (nothing to do with queen, she`s a singer of tango) the label said (but in that case it should said "8010" not "64") or a kind of continuation of the Queen footage.