A Fan's Property, Lost by Greg Brooks in the Last Century, circa 1999
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rocknrolllover · Member since
Idk who this JSS Idk what he done for Queen fans. Who can tell me about this man?
Marknow · Member since
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[b]rocknrolllover wrote: [/b] Idk who this JSS Idk what he done for Queen fans. Who can tell me about this man?[/QUOTE]
JSS is long time sorcerer of the Queen, the best band in England, ever. He bought forgotten music of the Queen (the best band in England, ever) from unknown heart. To us, much was new about him, and his music sounds new, with his words all brain proper true.
He became trapped in the attic of the archive, like Anne Frank. There Greg Brooks found his smell one day in the virtual archive of Queen (the best band in England, ever) and he was very tremendous "I have the kite".
They had the vocal improv. Morse code facts, hearsay, desperate creative choices, nobody can remember first winner. Many Queen (the best band in England, ever) fans were retarded with shame
Then Freddie appeared in the sky and took JSS to heaven, they both had a shit on Greg Brooks and laughed heartily. Freddie and JSS live in heaven free from the pox of the archive. Freddie is the girl and JSS is the boy, I think...
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Marknow wrote:[/b]
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[b]rocknrolllover wrote: [/b] Idk who this JSS Idk what he done for Queen fans. Who can tell me about this man?[/QUOTE]
JSS is long time sorcerer of the Queen, the best band in England, ever. He bought forgotten music of the Queen (the best band in England, ever) from unknown heart. To us, much was new about him, and his music sounds new, with his words all brain proper true.
He became trapped in the attic of the archive, like Anne Frank. There Greg Brooks found his smell one day in the virtual archive of Queen (the best band in England, ever) and he was very tremendous "I have the kite".
They had the vocal improv. Morse code facts, hearsay, desperate creative choices, nobody can remember first winner. Many Queen (the best band in England, ever) fans were retarded with shame
Then Freddie appeared in the sky and took JSS to heaven, they both had a shit on Greg Brooks and laughed heartily. Freddie and JSS live in heaven free from the pox of the archive. Freddie is the girl and JSS is the boy, I think...[/QUOTE]
laughed this much in years, i haven't.
how special you are, no idea you have .
Negative Creep · Member since
The whole Hangman story is an odd one, but it seems to be deeply rooted in the "war" between Greg Brooks and John Stuart.
If you had such an item and have gone as far as telling people on forums and even QPL - why would you never offer any proof whatsoever of its existance, in as little as a photograph or even a 10 second clip? I don't believe anyone here knows John Stuart on a personal level (??), so I find the "he doesn't need to prove it" stuff odd. All I know is that he is a committed collector, who has shared stuff in the past. In this instance the "he doesn't owe anyone anything" line to be utter bollocks - he's made a claim that he's never backed up and no one should blindly believe anything. Just because Greg Brooks does pop up on here acting like a bit of a bellend, doesn't add any credence to the Hangman acetate claim. And just because someone has a huge collection and has traded interesting stuff in the past, doesn't mean they can't lie about anything. There's no explanation as to why there's never been any proof offered, Does he fear he'll finally be tracked down and burgled if he 100% confirms its existance? LOL
It would be interesting to know when the Hangman claim came up, in relation to the Ibex tape going missing (which if I remember correctly GB believed wasn't even the master - just a cassette dub?).
If you wanted to piss Greg Brooks/QPL off by not letting them near it - a photograph proving its existance would be the ultimate. Similarly, if you wanted to be taken seriously by QPL, the same applies. I can't help but think it doesn't exist and was just a means of either trying to extract something from GB or just to piss him off. Hey, maybe even the claim had been used in trading circles to access stuff he doesn't have as the never materialing mega rarity is dangled in front of people?
brENsKi · Member since
but that's the whole point. He (JSS) doesn't need to prove anything to anyone. here. ever.
In another thread (which JSS started) he offered complete access to ALL of his rarities to anyone from Queen Productions - only exception being NOT Greg Brooks. [url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1230682/john-s-stuart-calling-greg-brooks-open-invitation-request.aspx]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1230682/john-s-stuart-calling-greg-brooks-open-invitation-request.aspx[/url]
an offer like that is more than enough proof for me - and should be for any reasonable person.
think about it: They (QPL) take him up on his offer - and EVERYONE knows that this stuff does indeed exist. He can't back out - as this will discredit him as a fraud.
NB: The ONLY person who comes out of this with NO CREDIT whatsoever is Greg Brooks. why?
think about this too: You're archivist for QPL and someone on a fan board offers Queen full access to their collection, but makes it plain that the only person not touching it is YOU. What do you do?
Proper responsible thing (as archivist) is to contact your bosses and ensure they know this stuff is available. What did GB do? he engaged in his usual puerile flame/insult war. He could've been the bigger man, he could've done HIS JOB properly - and guaranteed himself more archiving work in the process - but he chose not to. Because deep down he couldn't give a f**k. Deep down he's not really interested in the actual nub of the matter - the archive.
rocknrolllover · Member since
JSS has nothing in his collection, except for a pair of false teeth.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]rocknrolllover wrote:[/b]
JSS has nothing in his collection, except for a pair of false teeth.[/QUOTE]
when YOU learn to read and grasp proper logic you may make some progress - and even be taken seriously.
Until then you can carry on behaving like a dick - but ultimately, there' only YOURSELF amused by your comments - and other kiss fans with nicknames like "Alive II" "Dressed To Kill" etc
rocknrolllover · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]rocknrolllover wrote:[/b]
JSS has nothing in his collection, except for a pair of false teeth.[/QUOTE]
when YOU learn to read and grasp proper logic you may make some progress - and even be taken seriously.
Until then you can carry on behaving like a dick - but ultimately, there' only YOURSELF amused by your comments,[/QUOTE]
It looks like I am not a troll
Negative Creep · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
but that's the whole point. He (JSS) doesn't need to prove anything to anyone. here. ever.
In another thread (which JSS started) he offered complete access to ALL of his rarities to anyone from Queen Productions
- only exception being NOT Greg Brooks.
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1230682/john-s-stuart-calling-greg-brooks-open-invitation-request.aspx]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1230682/john-s-stuart-calling-greg-brooks-open-invitation-request.aspx[/url]
an offer like that is more than enough proof for me - and should be for any reasonable person.
think about it:
They (QPL) take him up on his offer - and EVERYONE knows that this stuff does indeed exist.
He can't back out - as this will discredit him as a fraud.
NB: The ONLY person who comes out of this with NO CREDIT whatsoever is Greg Brooks. why?
think about this too: You're archivist for QPL and someone on a fan board offers Queen full access to their collection, but makes it plain that the only person not touching it is YOU. What do you do?
Proper responsible thing (as archivist) is to contact your bosses and ensure they know this stuff is available. What did GB do? he engaged in his usual puerile flame/insult war. He could've been the bigger man, he could've done HIS JOB properly - and guaranteed himself more archiving work in the process - but he chose not to. Because deep down he couldn't give a f**k. Deep down he's not really interested in the actual nub of the matter - the archive.[/QUOTE]
Aside from the fact Greg Brooks would end up with the material in any case whether dealt with direct or not as he deals with the archive, Brooks has claimed in this thread that he got Brian involved and John Stuart still wasn't forthcoming. So that renders most of your points void, and surely does show JS to be a fraud? And I'm fairly certain, if no such recording resided in the archives, Brooks would go to great lengths to coax it out of whoever had it using any means available - be that money or band member intervention. Also, JS can easily contact band members management - so the claim that he's ready to help, but not via Brooks appears to be nonsense.
And you've instantly come back with the "he doesn't need to prove anything EVER" bollocks again too. Yawn. As much as I have no special reason to not believe the claim (apart from there being no evidence "provided" - in fact refused to be provided), I certainly have no reason at all TO believe it. Did you not read Greg's post, or do you believe he is lying?
So just to clarfiy - despite John Stuart refusing to deal with anyone at all at QPL (not just Greg Brooks) or provide anything at all to confirm the existance of such an acetate.... everyone should just take his word on that? OK.
Mr.QueenFan · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
but that's the whole point. He (JSS) doesn't need to prove anything to anyone. here. ever.
In another thread (which JSS started) he offered complete access to ALL of his rarities to anyone from Queen Productions
- only exception being NOT Greg Brooks.
[url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1230682/john-s-stuart-calling-greg-brooks-open-invitation-request.aspx]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1230682/john-s-stuart-calling-greg-brooks-open-invitation-request.aspx[/url]
an offer like that is more than enough proof for me - and should be for any reasonable person.
think about it:
They (QPL) take him up on his offer - and EVERYONE knows that this stuff does indeed exist.
He can't back out - as this will discredit him as a fraud.
"Even when Brian appealed for this to happen, John went silent in order to avoid the embarrassing situation of having to admit he had no such acetate..."
and
"I told John, and probably the Queenzone community too, back in 2010, that if John supplied his Hangman acetate, we would very likely use it as a bonus item on the 2011 Universal Records bonus disc for the first album. (...)
"Hmmmmmm! Things went suspiciously quiet again. I asked several times more, as did one of my colleagues too. Eventually John said he wouldn't let Brian or QPL borrow his acetate, not because it didn't exist, not because he'd lose face in a massive way on Queenzone if it were revealed he'd made it up, but because....wait for it... I had lost his Ibex cassette ELEVEN years earlier. That was his reason, after first promising we could use it. "Bring it to the studio yourself, then" I said. "No chance of it being lost then, is there?" He declined. "
This was 2010, the year of the so called John´s open invitation to Greg.
Mr.QueenFan · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
Mr.QueenFan, re:
>>And stop judging people on your assumptions - of course John needs to prove with audio that it exists - not to us, but at least to QP or Brian and Roger. Call it ethiquete!
On the assumption that English isn't your first language, I'll forgive you for this. If it's not, the sentence just does not make sense at all. Where on EARTH have I judged anyone based on that comment? .[/QUOTE]
You wrote:
"He doesn't NEED to do anything of the sort. There's no reason to dispute the word of someone that hasn't previously been questioned other than to come to the conclusion that so much doubt exists because some people are so *DESPERATE* to actually HEAR "Hangman" in the studio. "
You´re implying that people are only asking for evidence (so much doubt exists) of this because they are DESPERATE to hear Hangman in the studio. You´re judging people on your assumptions. And this is not true!
People do want to hear it, but after recent posts by Greg Brooks it´s only normal that people start to ask why didn´t JSS provided any evidence of his claims at least to QP?
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
>>And these four gentlemen deserve all the respect from their fans. Brian shouldn´t be asking for fans to lend him stuff that HE recorded. Stuff should be getting into his hands without him even asking for it. That´s how it works!
That's the most naïve post I've read on Queenzone for some time. .[/QUOTE]
Says the guy who´s too scared to say what he really thinks on this matter and keeps tap dancing around this issue.
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
The fact is that the collecting community make up for the negligence of those fine fellows that you so glowingly refer to. If Brian, Roger, QPL etc were so bloody wonderful, there'd be no need for any of this - everything would be in the organisation's possession. The fact is that it isn't and collectors have spent large sums of money preserving the legacy of a band that they care deeply about. Why should they offer up their property for nothing just because QPL asks for it?[/QUOTE]
I say what i think and so i´m really not interested in collectors feelings when they feel threatened by public scrutinity, which seems to be your case.
Next time you reply to me try not to be so condescending. If you were not aware that you were being condescending, then i forgive you.
And English is not my first language.
The Real Wizard · Member since
This thread is a complete joke, because a studio run of Hangman exists in the vaults.
And if Greg doesn't know this, then either he's incompetent or hasn't been given access to it. Or he's going through this entire process for kicks.
Mr.QueenFan · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
This thread is a complete joke, because a studio run of Hangman exists in the vaults.
And if Greg doesn't know this, then either he's incompetent or hasn't been given access to it. Or he's going through this entire process for kicks.
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First, if you know something that can clarify this issue for all Queen fans just speak up. It´s more respectful than to just call this thread a joke. And if you know something, why are you letting people waste their energies discussing something you know to be a lie?
What do you mean by what you said?
And how do you know this to be true?
And secondly, instead of just calling this whole thread a joke, i would love to hear your input about "scullyuk" claims (previous page) of John S Stuart joining the Hub to share fake demos and renamed files. Can you do it, or are you going to pretend is ok, like the rest of hypocrits in Queenzone?
Because last time i checked, on the Announce section you and others are the first ones to condemn such behaviour, but on this thread everybody is confortably silent about this. I wonder why?
dudeofqueen · Member since
Mr.QueenFan, re:
>>I say what i think and so i´m really not interested in collectors feelings when they feel threatened by public scrutinity, which seems to be your case.
But it appears that you write / post before you do any of this so-called thinking. Perhaps best to stop that with immediate effect, eh? What evidence is there of ANY collector that chooses to contribute to these forum pages being threatened by your so-called "public scrutiny"? Why on EARTH would they feel so given that, in virtually each and every case, those same collectors are the people that have so freely provided elements of their collections for REAL public scrutiny?
>>Next time you reply to me try not to be so condescending. If you were not aware that you were being condescending, then i forgive you.
Nope - fully aware of being very condescending. And I will be again should you deserve a response of that kind.
Mr.QueenFan · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
Mr.QueenFan, re:
>>I say what i think and so i´m really not interested in collectors feelings when they feel threatened by public scrutinity, which seems to be your case.
But it appears that you write / post before you do any of this so-called thinking. Perhaps best to stop that with immediate effect, eh? .[/QUOTE]
I didn´t asked for your opinion. I decide what i do!
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
What evidence is there of ANY collector that chooses to contribute to these forum pages being threatened by your so-called "public scrutiny"? Why on EARTH would they feel so given that, in virtually each and every case, those same collectors are the people that have so freely provided elements of their collections for REAL public scrutiny? ..[/QUOTE]
You make too much noise!
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
>>Next time you reply to me try not to be so condescending. If you were not aware that you were being condescending, then i forgive you.
Nope - fully aware of being very condescending. And I will be again should you deserve a response of that kind.[/QUOTE]
You are replying to sarcasm here. Just to let you know.