dudeofqueen wrote:
battler, re:
>>he made a claim, he needs to back it up with cold, hard evidence otherwise the claim is unsupported and is to be given no consideration.
He doesn't NEED to do anything of the sort. There's no reason to dispute the word of someone that hasn't previously been questioned other than to come to the conclusion that so much doubt exists because some people are so *DESPERATE* to actually HEAR "Hangman" in the studio.
>>What he knows himself is not evidence as we can not independently examine it. Even a photo would be circumstantial evidence at best because it's easy to find any old acetate, slap a "Hangman" sticker on it, and pretend it's the real deal.
And someone would go to those lengths this long after having put his hand up to say it exists? Surely, if John was that interested in justifying himself, he'd have done that by now......... As someone previously commented, if "Hangman" does appear, its not going to add anything to the reputation of the band and we'd have to wait for some considerable time for QPL come up with a magical re-release or early years rarities box set for it to see the light of day. Sad indeed it is that all we have to show for the band's early rarities is that pile of shite "Mad The Swine"..........
>>Now a photo accompanied by a recording would be damned good evidence.
And therein lies the rub - you want to hear the recording.
I respect John and appreciate is sharings in the past, but that doesn´t mean that i won´t scrutinize his words and behaviour.
And stop judging people on your assumptions - of course John needs to prove with audio that it exists - not to us, but at least to QP or Brian and Roger. Call it ethiquete!
He went public with his claim, so don´t tell me that he doesn´t need to back it up with at least a sample for Brian May be sure that is exists.
The problem here is not John having something we all know exists, it´s him owning something no one (including the band) know exists.
It has nothing to do with us wanting to hear the song - but of course we want!
And then you wrote this political correct statement:
"He doesn't NEED to do anything of the sort. There's no reason to dispute the word of someone that hasn't previously been questioned other than to come to the conclusion that so much doubt exists because some people are so *DESPERATE* to actually HEAR "Hangman" in the studio."
Of course there´s the need to dispute the word of someone who hasn´t been previously questioned - that´s called scrutinity, and it´s healthy!
Right now Greg Brooks and pretty much all of QP and some Queen fans don´t believe that John Stuart was being honest about this claim. And the reasons are obvious - if he could prove it´s existence would he deny it to Brian May?
I tell you something - right know i really hope that he was pranking QP. I can understand the joke, and in the end we all wanted to do it at some point in time. In fact, i think it´s genius!
But if he really has it, and the story Greg told in his post about him not answering Brian´s request is true, then that wasn´t very repectfull to Brian and QP was it?
There are four people who are very important in Queen´s world:
- Freddie, Brian, John, and Roger.
And these four gentlemen deserve all the respect from their fans. Brian shouldn´t be asking for fans to lend him stuff that HE recorded. Stuff should be getting into his hands without him even asking for it. That´s how it works!
