[QUOTE] [b]k-m wrote:[/b]Mid-late 80s? Depending when exactly and which concert or song you are referring to. You somehow decided to choose IWTBF, which wasn't exactly the highlight of his live performances and everybody knows that.[/QUOTE] my point wasn't about "one song" - i used IWTBF as it's the easiest example to quote - no fan, anywhere, would be hard-pressed to find poor live vocals of this song - there were more bad than good! the actual point being (as i've stated in another thread) - that from 79-82 there is a deterioration in Freddie's vocals, but this is only slight compared to the deterioration between 82-84. By 86 this has improved "slightly" - but was still far from his own standards. This has to be put down to his lifestyle and smoking - he didn't look after himself and it reflected live; where you only get "one take"
[QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth:[/b]Brenski pretty much got the gist of it. If you compare Freddie's live vox from 1984-1986 (as a whole) to late 1979 through mid 1982 (as a whole), you'll hear the differences. Freddie was less consistent in the mid 80s for a variety of reasons. Freddie's live stamina was cut due to his smoking (affects the breath support and makes it harder to sing) and his voice would suffer faster in the live environment. The Works Tour had many dates crammed and if you combine that with the effects of smoking, you'll hear the results.[/QUOTE]
thanks for confirmation. I would however, disagree with the comment about the number of dates on the works tour - previous tours, Live Killers, crazy Tour etc - had as many dates
Jazz 35, LK/Crazy 66, HS 30, Works(1984) 32
Many people will argue that "oh but he reached this note or that note" - the problem with live vocals is it isn't just about the "notes" - and he did struggle later on - it's about tone, control and power. ALL of these were an issue for Freddie certainly between 84-86[/QUOTE]
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The Crazy Tour had 20 shows, the 1979 European Jazz/Live Killers Tour had 28 shows, and the 1984 Euro Works Tour had 23 shows. All three of those tours had either 3 gigs in row or 2 gigs played then 1 day off then 2 gigs 1 off, etc. Freddie sounds really good on the Crazy Tour because he found safer singing techniques (likely self-taught) and had more confidence in himself. Plus - the Crazy was less strenuous on Freddie as a whole (same time zone, same city, etc). He also wasn't smoking or partying as much (I don't think) so his voice held up really well.
With the Works Tour - he had to deal with the same schedule (3 gigs in a row or a day off after 2 consecutive shows), but by that time - he was smoking for years, was a party animal, and probably didn't get into touring shape before the tour started (plus was older - so everything wouldn't recover as well or as fast). After only a few shows on the Works Tour, his voice started slipping. If Freddie didn't have to do as many shows, he probably would've fared better on that tour - but you'd still hear the effects of smoking/partying.
No doubt he had issues with control, power, etc throughout the mid 80s live shows. If Freddie didn't at least smoke - his live stamina would be much better and he wouldn't have consistency problems.
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[QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth wrote:[/b]
With the Works Tour - he had to deal with the same schedule (3 gigs in a row or a day off after 2 consecutive shows), but by that time - he was smoking for years, was a party animal, and probably didn't get into touring shape before the tour started (plus was older - so everything wouldn't recover as well or as fast). After only a few shows on the Works Tour, his voice started slipping. If Freddie didn't have to do as many shows, he probably would've fared better on that tour - but you'd still hear the effects of smoking/partying.
No doubt he had issues with control, power, etc throughout the mid 80s live shows. If Freddie didn't at least smoke - his live stamina would be much better and he wouldn't have consistency problems.[/QUOTE]
Great point!
I think Freddie even realized this problem himself. As the stated for one of the Magic Tour interviews that touring is more difficult, because he can't just say "yes let's go on tomorrow". He knew he had to work out and be well prepared for a tour. And that definitely shows on the Magic Tour.
