That's a real crime perfectionists such as Queen would not record their shows at soundboard.
Back then no band recorded every show with a mobile recording rig - it was very expensive ! It was a lot of work to get a proper recording of a show before the digital age.
It's easy to get a mono or stereo mixdown, which they did every night, but a full 24-track is a whole other story.
Japan 85
Mannheim 86?
Newcastle 86
Manchester 86 - some overdubs (Wembley 2nd night) come from this show (for example 2nd verse We Are The Champions ''And I ain't gonna lose'')
Doga wrote:The archivist said in 1986 they recorded all the UK shows and Budapest (makes sense).
yes. he did. but let's be realistic for a moment here. If "the Librarian" said the sky was blue and the grass was green, then any intelligent person would look outside to be sure - rather than take HIS word for it.
If we refer to "Real Magic" docu shown before Hungarian Rhapsody in cinemas, then we've heard how superior and professionally sounding is the sound of these bits as compared to bootlegs (for example Mannheim).
See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnM2Qmer33s
damiandaj wrote: Japan 85 Mannheim 86? Newcastle 86 Manchester 86 - some overdubs (Wembley 2nd night) come from this show (for example 2nd verse We Are The Champions ''And I ain't gonna lose'')
That overdub isn't from Manchester. In the Manchester version he doesn't sustain the Bb4 ("lose") which he does in the 2nd night Wembley version. My guess is that it's a studio overdub.
VENUE: QUEEN FAN CLUB CONVENTION 2016 Q&A SESSION - GUEST SPEAKER: G BROOKS (QUEEN ARCHIVIST) SUBJECT: QUEEN LIVE - THE ARCHIVES
Fan A: So, as Archivist, would you be able to confirm the total number of Queen concerts that were professionally recorded.
G Brooks: Yes. FOUR gigs only. Golders Green, Rainbow, Hammersmith 75,Budapest
Fan A: But what about Montreal, Milton Keynes and Wembley? didn't Queen release those as official live recordings?
G Brooks: and?
Fan A: well that makes (at least) SEVEN gigs professionally recorded
G Brooks: what's you point, twat?
Fan B: But weren't other live shows also professionally recorded?
G Brooks: like which, smart bollocks?
Fan B: Knebworth (it was included in live Magic), Most of the Magic Tour, Hammersmith 79, several Japanese gigs, South America, hyde Park, Earls court and the second Rainbow 74 gig.
G Brooks: I don't know where you get your rubbish information from. I said four, and i meant FOUR. I am the archivist, i know everything and you fans know nothing.
Fan A: and most of the Live Killers tour was professionally recorded too
G Brooks: where do you get such twathead information?
Fan A: website BrianMay.com states: "comprises tracks selected from over 50 recorded shows in the UK Europe, Japan and America " G Brooks: I said FOUR gigs, ok. interview's over, you ungrateful twats.
damiandaj wrote: Japan 85 Mannheim 86? Newcastle 86 Manchester 86 - some overdubs (Wembley 2nd night) come from this show (for example 2nd verse We Are The Champions ''And I ain't gonna lose'')
That overdub isn't from Manchester. In the Manchester version he doesn't sustain the Bb4 ("lose") which he does in the 2nd night Wembley version. My guess is that it's a studio overdub.
all the overdubs on 2nd Wembley were done in a studio
London - 13-09-73
London - 31-03-74
London - 19-11-74
London - 20-11-74
London - 24-12-75
London - 18-09- 76
Richfield - 23-01-77
London - 06-06-77
London - 07-06-77
Houston - 11-12-77
Los Angeles - 22-12-77
Brussels 26-01-79
Rotterdam 29-01-79
Rotterdam 30-01-79
Cologne 01-02-79
Frankfurt 02-02-79
Zurich 04-02-79
Ljubljana 06-02-79
Zagreb 07-02-79
Munich 10-02-79
Munich 11-02-79
Stuttgart 13-02-79
Saarbrucken 15-02-79
Lyon 17-02-79
Barcelona 19-02-79
Barcelona 20-02-79
Madrid 23-02-79
Madrid 24-02-79
Poitiers 25-02-79
Paris 27-02-79
Paris 28-02-79
Paris 01-03-79
Tokyo 25-04-79
Manchester 27-11-79
Glasgow 30-11-79
Newcastle 04-12-79
Liverpool 07-12-79
Bristol 09-12-79
Brighton 10-02-79
Brighton 11-02-79
London 22-12-79
London 26-12-79
Buenos Aires 28-02-81
Buenos Aires 01-03-81
Sao Paulo 20-03-81
Montreal 24-11-81
Montreal 25-11-81
Milton keynes 25-06-82
Tokorozawa 03-11-82
Rio 11-01-85
Rio 18-01-85
Tokyo 11-05-85
Live Aid 13-07-85
Slane castle 05-07-86
Newcastle 09-07-86
London 11-07-86
London 12-07-86
Manchester 16-07-86
Budapest 27-07-86
Knebworth 09-08-86
List from the top of my head so probably some date mistakes and some omissions ??
damiandaj wrote: Japan 85
Mannheim 86?
Newcastle 86
Manchester 86 - some overdubs (Wembley 2nd night) come from this show (for example 2nd verse We Are The Champions ''And I ain't gonna lose'')
That overdub isn't from Manchester. In the Manchester version he doesn't sustain the Bb4 ("lose") which he does in the 2nd night Wembley version. My guess is that it's a studio overdub.
all the overdubs on 2nd Wembley were done in a studio
That's right. It's not Manchester. I'm sorry. I compared these shows too quickly.
How they did it? It's definitly not studio version of We Are The Champions. Freddie's voice sounds too heavy. It sounds like cut from another show but edited. ''Human Race'' also sounds uniquely.
That's the real question, How many shows were multitracked? As these are the only ones to be released. Is an excellent question to ask to the heads of Queen Productions.
