Why is Mother Love not credited as a Queen song ?

[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]

Anyways since Freddies passing, you can clearly see who's missing in everything Queen does. So I can go for that Brian ego thing and even royaltys the reason for credit to Mother Love [/QUOTE]

And yet in Mr Bad Guy, you can also clearly see what and who is missing

[QUOTE] [b]Supersonic_Man89 wrote:[/b]

I don't know why nobody has suggested that it could have been Roger and John who pushed this forward and insisted on Brian/Freddie taking credit for it. Just a thought.[/QUOTE]

Sure, John and Roger said, 'hey, we don't want to make money out of this beautiful song, so we'll withdraw from it.' Sure, that's a realistic possibility. Of course!

Holly2003, re:

>And yet in Mr Bad Guy, the Cross, and all other non-Fred solo efforts

Did you mean "non-Brian"?

If so I'd argue against The Cross featuring in that list; having Brian around would only have confused matters and personally, I think The Cross (excepting the AWFUL "Shove It") were STRONGER for the lack of any Queen 'trademarks' in terms of sound and production. Mr Bad Guy is musically horrendous and would have really benefitted from Brian's prolonged input as evidenced on "She Blows Hot And Cold" whose guitar solo is absolutely rip-roaringly brilliant.

[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]

Perhaps Brian wanted more money on royalties.[/QUOTE]


I don't think royalites would have came into it seeing as Mother Love was never released as a single.

[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]

Holly2003, re:

>And yet in Mr Bad Guy, you can clearly see who and what is missing.

Did you mean "non-Brian"?

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No ;)

[QUOTE] [b]Biggest Band On The Planet wrote:[/b]

I don't think royalites would have came into it seeing as Mother Love was never released as a single.
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First of all, he'd still receive royalties for the song's inclusion on the album.

Second of all, at the time they decided on the credits, they probably still didn't know which were gonna be the singles.

[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]

Anyways since Freddies passing, you can clearly see who's missing in everything Queen does. So I can go for that Brian ego thing and even royaltys the reason for credit to Mother Love [/QUOTE]

And yet in Mr Bad Guy, you can also clearly see what and who is missing

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As a commercial hit it didn't work but music and lyrics works for me.

By most accounts Brian drove the completion of the album and is responsible for the way it sounds.

Brian May is by a huge distance the second most important member of Queen. The hits of the other two don't have greater musical or emotional quality than Brian's songs. Radio gaga or White Queen? I know which I prefer.

Brian and Freddie wrote Mother Love. Brian shaped it. The others did not. And probably could not.

Joint credits were used for two albums when all four were alive and creating. Why should same rules apply for a posthumous project.

Roger and John started Made in Heaven without Brian, and then Brian unceremoneously dumped what John and Roger had already worked on.

http://www.queenpedia.com/index.php?title=Made_In_Heaven_(Queen_album) "Nothing was heard from the final post- Innuendo sessions until the autumn of 1995, though the band had been working on the songs as far back as the summer of 1993, when Roger and John started working on the material, adding new drums and bass to old songs. Brian was annoyed. "Roger and John became very impatient with me and started working on the tapes. I didn't want this stuff to go out without my involvement, so I took the tapes off them, felt that they'd done it wrong and spent months putting it all back together. Doing Made In Heaven was like assembling a jigsaw puzzle. But I wouldn't have put my seal of approval on it if I hadn't thought it was up to standard."

[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]

I thought Roger and John started Made in Heaven without Brian, and then Brian unceremoneously dumped what John and Roger had already worked on?[/QUOTE]

That's one way of putting it

...u never know though.

Unceremoniously?


Perhaps there was a ceremony.


A screaming one. Hence the latter instances where the fan messages were done B+J and R+J separately

Yep it was a big sourie, complete with roast badger

[QUOTE] [b]Rick wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]CruellaDeVille wrote:[/b]

Seriously do you really think that Brian was that opportunistic? It's not like they hadn't co-written a song before. It really probably was just a matter of circumstance. [/QUOTE]

I'm 99% sure that Brian's ego is the reason John doesn't want to be involved with Queen anymore.

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Focus on that remaining 1%.

Deacon was already done with the music business in the 80s. For all we know it could've been amicable.

Not every documentary is going to be like the Eagles one where everyone unearths their dirty laundry (pardon the pun). This is one of those "what happens in the band stays in the band" things.

[QUOTE] [b]Supersonic_Man89 wrote:[/b]

I don't know why nobody has suggested that it could have been Roger and John who pushed this forward and insisted on Brian/Freddie taking credit for it. Just a thought.[/QUOTE]

But then Queenzone wouldn't be Queenzone, and people wouldn't be able to slag off one of the most respected people in the music business with impunity.

It's fair to assume that 99% of people on this site have never met Brian or worked with him, yet they are the ones who are doing the character judgements here without access to all of the available information.

Oh well. It is what it is.

Carry on...

[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]

Mr Bad Guy is musically horrendous and would have really benefitted from Brian's prolonged input as evidenced on "She Blows Hot And Cold" whose guitar solo is absolutely rip-roaringly brilliant.[/QUOTE]

Yup, but even that couldn't rescue that god-awful song.