Actually I think reading a few text books wouldn't hurt in your case Brenski. It would probably open you up to new perspectives and ways of thinking, and maybe you'd learn a thing or two about using reliable sources to support your views better.
This widespread despise of the educated is sad.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]How typical. Slurs and ad-hominem attacks from Brenski and Panchgani, sprinkled with some conspiracy theories and half a dozen strawman fallacies where Brenski puts words in my mouth, but conveniently ignores everything I wrote. [/QUOTE]firstly, I have NEVER put words in your mouth - you do that yourself - and far too many of 'em to boot. the twitter posts were genuine. and THAT is the hate-filled crap that has hijacked the BLM campaign. You brush off the truth when it doesn't fit your agenda. how predictably wank of you.
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]And still, as in the Brexit discussion which followed a similar course, Brenski insists he represents "the real world", and everything that doesn't conform to his views is dismissed off-hand. How is it possible to have a reasonable discussion when this is the response given to anyone who doesn't unconditionally agree with your views, Brenski?[/QUOTE]you talk utter crap. I have no issue with debate and discussion. the whole point of the Brexit debate is that YOU and many others refuse to accept the outcome of a democratic majority. you'd be happy for the UK to keep voting til we get what YOU want. have YOU any idea how patheitc that sounds? let's give you an idea. I've voted in EVERY UK general election since 1983. In all but TWO of them I did not get the Govt I voted for - do i complain? - no because that's how fucking democracy works
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]You write "you know what Casper? you could also be wrong you know". But Brenski - do you see the irony in that statement? Because YOU refuse to accept that you could be wrong about anything, launching into the most hostile verbal attacks when challenged on any point, by anyone.[/QUOTE]Again - i haven't been hostile toward you. quite the opposite. I've disagreed with you reasonably. - which is totally unlike yourself - whoagain has made things personal. you did as much a year ago and got really nasty and personal and insulting, but surprise surfuckingprise, our left-wing mods did nothing to make you either withdraw your comment or apologise.
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b] You no longer listen to arguments, your mind is made up, and anyone who does not agree with you 100% is wrong, "hypocritical", "moronic", "marxist", "anarchist". I'm fairly sure you still consider yourself a moderate, Brenski. But you are not - you are fast becoming an extremist. That's worrying, because I know for a fact that you're not stupid. Why are you no longer willing to even consider the possibility that people on the other side of the fence are well-intentioned and decent human beings who simply happen to disagree with you, sometimes to a greater and sometimes to a lesser extent? [/QUOTE]again you don't know me. and i am not "becoming anything" - and how fucking dare you label me anything. as i said before you offer comment on everything, but your-splinter-filled arse NEVER provides any kind of solution. Brexit is so much better than anything YOU can come up with Casper, because at least it allows Britain to shape it's own future. if this is how your bleeding heart is reacting now, god help you when your country (the Netherlands) votes to leave the EU next year.
I'll leave you with this: Casper you're an insufferable self-righteous hand-wringer. you do nothing about nothing and (to bastardise someone greater) you're a man who knows the theory of everything and the reality of nothing. You sir, are an insulting and odious little prick.
No matter what is being discussed - infowars is not a valid source. It is a conspiracy website, full stop.
Once in a blue moon it gets something right. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Always seek another source.
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and you're guilty of the same mistake as Casper. brush something away rather than discuss the ACTUAL issue.
the fact a site has got other stuff wrong doesn't make the twitter comments lies does it?
i may have to resort to "Gerryisms" to get my acct removed, as i really want out of here BECAUSE of people like Casper. but Barbara won't oblige and delete my account for me
what kind of site makes it impossible for a forum member to close/delete their own account? this sh*t one - that's what.
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
"firstly, I have NEVER put words in your mouth", Brenski opens. Only to follow it, a mere two lines plus a quote down, with: "the whole point of the Brexit debate is that YOU and many others refuse to accept the outcome of a democratic majority. you'd be happy for the UK to keep voting til we get what YOU want." Funny. I didn't post on that topic - not ONCE. So all of the above is words put into my mouth, by you, in the same post where you claim never to do that. You and Panchgani added to it considerably in your next set of posts, but I think the point is amply supported already.
Then Brenski proceeds: "Again - i haven't been hostile toward you. quite the opposite. I've disagreed with you reasonably. - which is totally unlike yourself - whoagain has made things personal."
From this very topic, and I've had to edit hard to keep it down to just the bare essentials: "Casper's favourite sport - talking down at everyone here - with his "i know everything about everything since forever" crap", "your kind of "holier-than-thou-but-actually-do-f***-all-about-anything", "for someone supposedly learned and intellectual...you know surprisingly little about surprisingly less.", "he's far too clever but equally unreasoned to see that those tweets were genuine and the "pigs in blankets" and "let's fry some bacon" comments originate from the very people he says need further protection and in his world would be above the law #stupidhypocritcalmoronics". And, of course, the most reasonable, un-hostile and impersonal of all: "Casper you're an insufferable self-righteous hand-wringer. you do nothing about nothing and (to bastardise someone greater) you're a man who knows the theory of everything and the reality of nothing. You sir, are an insulting and odious little prick."
Sadly, Brenski will not leave it at that. So here, unedited, the PM he sent to try and belittle me a bit further:
[QUOTE]Casper
i honestly don't care what YOU do about this PM. I've had it with you and you mindful mindlessness. i can see that YOU'RE always going to claim to be better and suprior to everyone else. I'm not the only one you've had run-ins with - Pitrek doesn't visit much these days either, and I had a few months off last year to withdraw from your cr*p.
anyhow, i've asked Barbara to delete my account (for the third time) - she says she can't (won't) but she closed Gerry's acct didn't she?
As i said, had enough of your cr*p. so find someone else to talk down to - shame the site membership doesn't realise what an insignificant, hand-wringing odious dick you really are. perhaps people like being talked down to and insulted. - well now i'm insulting you. enjoy it. anyone can talk theory the way you do. some of us have real practical life experience to call on.
on a lighter note - if Barb doesn't remove my account soon, i WILL resort to some imaginative profanity - all aimed at yourself - in order to get myself deleted - and the f*ck away from you and your inane sermons.
they say "those that can, do. and those that can't, teach" - you'd make a great teacher....lol
now shove your lectures, you unintelligent little smart-bollocks[/QUOTE]
So there you have it, cool and collected, civil and detached, not hostile - quite the opposite - but reasonable, unlike myself.
Oscar J · Member since
O.o
Saint Jiub · Member since
Were the tweets Brenski linked inaccurate?
Costa86 · Member since
Wow, that escalated quickly. And I'm not sure why.
We all have differences of opinion. On certain subjects, we feel very strongly one way or another. I feel very strongly about Brexit for instance, and I am convinced it was a big mistake which has already started having dire consequences. And I say this because I care for the UK and want the best for it and all its citizens. But I'm not getting back into that. A hallmark of Britishness is the ability to make a reasoned argument without getting all hot and bothered. I hail from Malta, and, living in Britain, I can see the difference in the way people discuss things. In Malta, being prone to the usual Southern Mediterranean stereotypes, people raise their voice easily and get all flushed and sweaty. But the British are generally able to get their point across without the histrionics. Which is why I am surprised at Brenski and the unexpectedly very abrasive tone this discussion has taken. It's normal to feel aggrieved, but it's only a civilised discussion for Christ's sake. We're not the guys getting shot and killed here. And why would you want your account deleted? Your contributions generally add to the topics discussed, both in the Queen and Peronal sections. There's no need to get upset.
We all have our own styles of discussion. What is important is that we never belittle anyone - especially not anyone who is making reasoned arguments, even if we don't agree one bit with them. Name calling really brings down the level of discussion. Many of the people on this forum seem to be highly intelligent, so I would not expect to see, in the context of a reasoned discussion, the kind of name-calling you find in YouTube comments.
Sometimes when we are angry, it is best not to write anything. I have many a time written something in anger and then deleted it, and then reapproached the matter a few hours later, and written something in a calmer and less abrasive tone.
brENsKi · Member since
then perhaps you need to look at ThomasQuinn's motives? why would anyone post the contents of a Private Message - other than to belittle and stir up hate toward a person.
I did the right thing taking the spat between me and TQ to PM - he escalated things by posting that PM here.
he constantly manipulates situations (ask Pitrek).
and why is it that my account has still not been removed - despite my asking several times?
i don't want to be in any situation where i may be provoked into responding to a TQ attack - but mods here have done nothing....even not bothering to ask him to remove the contents of my PM.
so - I'm asking again - for the SIXTH time YV (Barbara) please remove my account now. thank you
No matter what is being discussed - infowars is not a valid source. It is a conspiracy website, full stop.
Once in a blue moon it gets something right. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Always seek another source.
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I remember once Alex Jones went on Howard Stern, and he started talking about how the Vietnam War was started by a false flag operation, and even if you didn't agree with him you wondered if there was any possibility that it could be true, but then he started talking about how the Royal Family is linked to vampires from Transylvania, and his whole credibility went out the window.
Saint Jiub · Member since
Typical. Six posts in this topic automatically dismiss the tweets because they come from "Infowars", yet the QZ leftist extremists cannot bother commenting on the content of the tweets.
Incidentally, I believe these two deaths (Minnesota and Louisiana) could have been avoided with better Police training. Both cops were rattled in fear for their lives as both victims had guns for self-protection. The Louisiana case seems worse to me in that it started with excessive force, and then the cop shot the victim in frustration because the man did not play possum.
It would be nice if the cops could express remorse and admit over-reaction/negligence, but the crappy US jackpot American legal system precludes any expression of honesty.
Saint Jiub · Member since
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Saint Jiub · Member since
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Mr.Jingles · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
Typical. Six posts in this topic automatically dismiss the tweets because they come from "Infowars", yet the QZ leftist extremists cannot bother commenting on the content of the tweets.
Incidentally, I believe these two deaths (Minnesota and Louisiana) could have been avoided with better Police training. Both cops were rattled in fear for their lives as both victims had guns for self-protection. The Louisiana case seems worse to me in that it started with excessive force, and then the cop shot the victim in anger/frustration because the man did not play possum.
It would be nice if the cops could express remorse and admit over-reaction/negligence, but the crappy US jackpot American legal system precludes any expression of honesty.[/QUOTE]
The death of Philando Castile is far more disturbing, because he didn't have any criminal record, and his only violations were traffic related (which we all have had at some point). He was also a legal gun owner who notified the cop that he had one, along with a permit, but the cop still shot him anyways.
Many NRA members are actually criticizing the NRA itself for not speaking out and defending Castile as a legal gun owner.
Saint Jiub · Member since
I find the Louisiana death more disturbing because the deliberate cold blooded killing was a crime of passion, and the cop is definitely to blame.
