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user1
Queen+ never had any magic.
Adam Lambert was a bad Freddie imitator from day one on.
Adam Lambert was a bad Freddie imitator from day one on.
Your Fairy King
[QUOTE] [b]NickESB wrote:[/b]
Queen used to be about creativity?
When it comes to setlists, that's factually inaccurate.
Work back on the tours.
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[/QUOTE]
Prior to 1980, absolutely. Listen to or watch the News of the World tour.
Queen used to be about creativity?
When it comes to setlists, that's factually inaccurate.
Work back on the tours.
.
[/QUOTE]
Prior to 1980, absolutely. Listen to or watch the News of the World tour.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]mr mason wrote:[/b]
'Brian' saying he(Adam Lambert') can hit the notes better than 'Freddie',what a cunt![/QUOTE]
You may not like the idea, but it's still a fact. Mercury's range usually didn't come on the road with him, but Lambert nails it every night.
Find us another male singer who can do Who Wants To Live Forever like the album, in key.
Mercury couldn't. Nobody else can.
Showmanship, artistic prowess, all the rest, is another subject altogether, of course.
But all opinions aside, this is a fact - Lambert hits notes that Mercury couldn't hit live.
'Brian' saying he(Adam Lambert') can hit the notes better than 'Freddie',what a cunt![/QUOTE]
You may not like the idea, but it's still a fact. Mercury's range usually didn't come on the road with him, but Lambert nails it every night.
Find us another male singer who can do Who Wants To Live Forever like the album, in key.
Mercury couldn't. Nobody else can.
Showmanship, artistic prowess, all the rest, is another subject altogether, of course.
But all opinions aside, this is a fact - Lambert hits notes that Mercury couldn't hit live.
brunogorski
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]mr mason wrote:[/b]
'Brian' saying he(Adam Lambert') can hit the notes better than 'Freddie',what a cunt![/QUOTE]
You may not like the idea, but it's still a fact. Mercury's range usually didn't come on the road with him, but Lambert nails it every night.
Find us another male singer who can do Who Wants To Live Forever like the album, in key.
Mercury couldn't. Nobody else can.
Showmanship, artistic prowess, all the rest, is another subject altogether, of course.
But all opinions aside, this is a fact - Lambert hits notes that Mercury couldn't hit live.[/QUOTE]
[End of Discussion]
[QUOTE] [b]mr mason wrote:[/b]
'Brian' saying he(Adam Lambert') can hit the notes better than 'Freddie',what a cunt![/QUOTE]
You may not like the idea, but it's still a fact. Mercury's range usually didn't come on the road with him, but Lambert nails it every night.
Find us another male singer who can do Who Wants To Live Forever like the album, in key.
Mercury couldn't. Nobody else can.
Showmanship, artistic prowess, all the rest, is another subject altogether, of course.
But all opinions aside, this is a fact - Lambert hits notes that Mercury couldn't hit live.[/QUOTE]
[End of Discussion]
matt z
you all forgot to mention Adam's timbre. His voice is thin and only suited to the power ballads/melancholy songs.
He sounds like a kid singing others. He sounds RIDICULOUS doing Dragon Attack.
but ..... anyways
He sounds like a kid singing others. He sounds RIDICULOUS doing Dragon Attack.
but ..... anyways
cmsdrums
A lot of people think that Martel would be the right man to tour/record with - has the range, but also the tone. I can see why BM/RT want to steer clear of that option though in order to not attract the 'he's just a Freddie imitator accusations.
At the end of the day, it is what it is....and sadly we are reaching the tipping point where with them playing massive stadium/festival/arena tours that bands half their age couldn't do, the weak point isn't actually Adam, but Brian and Roger!!
At the end of the day, it is what it is....and sadly we are reaching the tipping point where with them playing massive stadium/festival/arena tours that bands half their age couldn't do, the weak point isn't actually Adam, but Brian and Roger!!
Togg
Personally I'm rather bored of hearing all this, if you wish to see them stop performing you will get your wish soon, Rogers hands are now pretty swollen with arthritis as a recent photo showed, so he certainly wont be playing as much in the coming years, hoperfully another 2-3 tops I'd say.
As for set list being the same.... what a joke, look at the old sets from the mid seventies onwards they played the same stuff over and over, Freddie used to miss notes not only while singing but on the piano too it happens it's called being a live performer, if you have ever learnt to play an instrument you will quickly find you NEVER play perfectly, nobody does, I've seen pretty well every guitarist of note fluff notes
I'd say this is the most energised they have been in decades, in 80 they were blasting out, 82 was good but getting a bit less energy 84 was frankly a tribute band, 86 was the last big tour and they seemed on great form but Deacon was clearly suffering and Freddie seemed to want it to end, those were my personal views of shows I saw, I've seen them with PR and Adam, and frankly not since 1980 have I seen them so upbeat
Adam works for me he can hit notes Freddie struggled to live and is in my opinion the very essence of what Freddie was doing
I suggest see them now, it's the closest to classic Queen you will see
As for set list being the same.... what a joke, look at the old sets from the mid seventies onwards they played the same stuff over and over, Freddie used to miss notes not only while singing but on the piano too it happens it's called being a live performer, if you have ever learnt to play an instrument you will quickly find you NEVER play perfectly, nobody does, I've seen pretty well every guitarist of note fluff notes
I'd say this is the most energised they have been in decades, in 80 they were blasting out, 82 was good but getting a bit less energy 84 was frankly a tribute band, 86 was the last big tour and they seemed on great form but Deacon was clearly suffering and Freddie seemed to want it to end, those were my personal views of shows I saw, I've seen them with PR and Adam, and frankly not since 1980 have I seen them so upbeat
Adam works for me he can hit notes Freddie struggled to live and is in my opinion the very essence of what Freddie was doing
I suggest see them now, it's the closest to classic Queen you will see
AlbaNo1
Great post Togg. Interesting to hear from the perspective of a real musician who has seen the band live in different eras.
I've no problem in principle with Queen+ as it's clearly marked that the singer isn't part of the band and replacing Freddie.
Problem is Lambert hitting the notes sounds worse to me than Freddie missing them. If Freddie missed something he would usually recover in grand style on the next line. The tempo was a lot faster too in the original band.
I've no problem in principle with Queen+ as it's clearly marked that the singer isn't part of the band and replacing Freddie.
Problem is Lambert hitting the notes sounds worse to me than Freddie missing them. If Freddie missed something he would usually recover in grand style on the next line. The tempo was a lot faster too in the original band.
Costa86
I saw them in 2015. I mostly went to the show because I wanted to see Roger and Brian live and singing together as a Queen band, and I am appreciative of that chance. Brian's guitar sounded fantastic still. Roger was not as explosive, and obviously not close to as good as he was, but he still put on a good show, even if Rufus played for about half of the show.
I'm not really a fan of Lambert's voice, but I think he's doing a good job of being Queen's lead singer. He hits all the right notes, but, like several other people, I just don't like the tone of his voice - it lacks depth and I just don't like the sound of it. But he's by no means a bad singer.
I don't think Queen+AL are a tribute band. They're a bit more than that. And they're the best you can get now that Freddie is dead and John has retired. And it's good that those who never saw the real Queen get at least to see Brian and Roger playing their old songs. It won't last forever, so I'm happy to see those two still going at it. In a few years it will all be over.
I'm not really a fan of Lambert's voice, but I think he's doing a good job of being Queen's lead singer. He hits all the right notes, but, like several other people, I just don't like the tone of his voice - it lacks depth and I just don't like the sound of it. But he's by no means a bad singer.
I don't think Queen+AL are a tribute band. They're a bit more than that. And they're the best you can get now that Freddie is dead and John has retired. And it's good that those who never saw the real Queen get at least to see Brian and Roger playing their old songs. It won't last forever, so I'm happy to see those two still going at it. In a few years it will all be over.
Holly2003
The point about timbre is important and often ignored by AL fans. Also, cats can hit high notes, but I don't see any major touring bands hiring 'Mittens', 'Garfield' or 'Tiger' as their lead singer. Except for maybe in Japan.
john bodega
"Mercury couldn't. Nobody else can"
LOADS of people can.
It's whether they 'should' or not. Notions such as tone, or the breadth of a voice - Lambert is like a tiny mouse trying to make itself heard over an orchestra, especially when they try to open with a big song like One Vision.
Mouse farts, that's all. I'm getting a little sick of the sound of him 'searching' for notes, too - especially during songs like the aforementioned WWTLF. Bottom line - he sounds like Oprah on helium trying to squeeze a shit out, half of the time, and spends more time practicing his catwalk moves than respecting the music.
The experiment has run its course, I'm just waiting for Brian to get bored now.
LOADS of people can.
It's whether they 'should' or not. Notions such as tone, or the breadth of a voice - Lambert is like a tiny mouse trying to make itself heard over an orchestra, especially when they try to open with a big song like One Vision.
Mouse farts, that's all. I'm getting a little sick of the sound of him 'searching' for notes, too - especially during songs like the aforementioned WWTLF. Bottom line - he sounds like Oprah on helium trying to squeeze a shit out, half of the time, and spends more time practicing his catwalk moves than respecting the music.
The experiment has run its course, I'm just waiting for Brian to get bored now.
john bodega
"He hits all the right notes"
He hits them, but he also hits other notes in a sort of shotgun spray. He's a little too comfortable with a kind of musical collateral damage, especially when he's throwing in his meangingless "I've been on Idol!" scales and ad-libs.
I just have no time for it anymore. I like to check in on the current shows and skip to stuff that's just Brian and Roger to see how they're holding up.
He hits them, but he also hits other notes in a sort of shotgun spray. He's a little too comfortable with a kind of musical collateral damage, especially when he's throwing in his meangingless "I've been on Idol!" scales and ad-libs.
I just have no time for it anymore. I like to check in on the current shows and skip to stuff that's just Brian and Roger to see how they're holding up.
Vocal harmony
Not only does Lambert hit the notes, as Wizzard and Togg have said, but he is also more consistent than Freddie live. Timbre is a point worth mentioning, but how many Rush fans would complain that Geddy's voice is thin and lack power within some of it's range..it's important but this is not Wagner at The Royal Opera House!
Because Queen's music covers such vast ground filling Freddie's shoes to any degree is a big ask. With Lambert they certainly seem to feel more able to cover more than they did with PR.
As far as the tempo of some songs, in the late 70's live songs were being played much faster than the recorded work, to the point where during The Crazy Tour I thought that RT may have been fuelled by Bolivian jungle powder! I haven't sat down to listen closely and work this out, but while they may have slowed down, are they any slower than the recorded versions
Because Queen's music covers such vast ground filling Freddie's shoes to any degree is a big ask. With Lambert they certainly seem to feel more able to cover more than they did with PR.
As far as the tempo of some songs, in the late 70's live songs were being played much faster than the recorded work, to the point where during The Crazy Tour I thought that RT may have been fuelled by Bolivian jungle powder! I haven't sat down to listen closely and work this out, but while they may have slowed down, are they any slower than the recorded versions
QueenTwo
The Real Wizard wrote:
mr mason wrote:
'Brian' saying he(Adam Lambert') can hit the notes better than 'Freddie',what a cunt!
You may not like the idea, but it's still a fact. Mercury's range usually didn't come on the road with him, but Lambert nails it every night.
Find us another male singer who can do Who Wants To Live Forever like the album, in key.
Mercury couldn't. Nobody else can.
Showmanship, artistic prowess, all the rest, is another subject altogether, of course.
But all opinions aside, this is a fact - Lambert hits notes that Mercury couldn't hit live.
You may or not want to believe this guy's....but now the band are heavily using AUTO-TUNE.....that's a true fact, some parts are not live either, Adam during the sound check is no where half as good as he is when the concert starts....So if you know what auto-tune is it can make anyone sound good, it's a very sad day now because lot's of artists use it...
mr mason wrote:
'Brian' saying he(Adam Lambert') can hit the notes better than 'Freddie',what a cunt!
You may not like the idea, but it's still a fact. Mercury's range usually didn't come on the road with him, but Lambert nails it every night.
Find us another male singer who can do Who Wants To Live Forever like the album, in key.
Mercury couldn't. Nobody else can.
Showmanship, artistic prowess, all the rest, is another subject altogether, of course.
But all opinions aside, this is a fact - Lambert hits notes that Mercury couldn't hit live.
You may or not want to believe this guy's....but now the band are heavily using AUTO-TUNE.....that's a true fact, some parts are not live either, Adam during the sound check is no where half as good as he is when the concert starts....So if you know what auto-tune is it can make anyone sound good, it's a very sad day now because lot's of artists use it...