Has the current incarnation of Queen worn out its magic?

I'm not being a bully or troll, and I'm not saying this because I'm a freddie fan boy, I just tell it the way it is. I personally think only a Brian and Roger fan boy would defend their every move. It's time to call it a day, their not being creative anymore. This is coming from a big Brian May fan.

Not everyone who likes the tour with Adam is a deluded stepford who would welcome anything with the Queen name and logo regardless of its contents, and not everyone who doesn't like Adam is a narrow-minded living-in-the-past homophobe who's too purist to even entertain the idea of someone teaming up with a loser from a reality programme.

Some people genuinely like or dislike Adam and we're entitled to it.

Yea, but some people on Queenzone, without mentioning names loves everything Brian and Roger do. Even if they know it's not good, it's almost like he works for Brian May. I'm a huge Mercury fan, my favorite singer but I have no problem saying Hot Space didn't work. What was he thinking releasing MR. Bad Guy ? Get my point?

[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]

I'm not being a bully or troll [/QUOTE]

So the inflammatory remarks above were written by someone with your user name and the same post count?

People aren't as stupid as you think they are.

[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]

Yea, but some people on Queenzone, without mentioning names loves everything Brian and Roger do. Even if they know it's not good, it's almost like he works for Brian May.[/QUOTE]

Subtle...

Your black and white view of the world hinders you in ways you can't realize.

Sebastian had provided a more diplomatic explanation than I'm willing to give you.

I saw Queen + Adam Lambert here in Perth in 2014 and I must say I really enjoyed it. Obviously I was there to see Brian & Roger in the flesh as it was the first time I'd had the chance to see them. I took the show for what it was. Obviously no Freddie or John but they did put on a really polished show. Adam certainly has a good set of pipes on him but I did find him a bit too camp for my liking, even more so than Freddie used to be. That would be my only down side. If they are still enjoying playing and people are still paying to see them then why not? That's what musicians do and they love it.

^^^^ this.

Wizard and Sebastian you're both making more sense than the more narrow minded view of some!

They're a good tribute b(r)and and certainly very professional at adding millions more to their already huge stacks of cash. I'm not sure why they hate Trump so much: they're both doing the same thing -- taking a fake show out on tour to generate publicity for their business empire. Maybe Trump didn't pay them enough.

It is what it is. 2 members from a 70's and 80's (and a little bit of 90's) band on a revival greatest hits tour.
There is no intention whatsoever to create new songs or albums. Just give the crowd what they want and take the money.

I did visit a Queen+Paul Rogers show in 2005, I liked it because it had some freshness and felt genuine. There was a real buzz about the guys touring again after all those years.
10 years later, that magic seems to be gone.

But I don't blame them for it. It is their life and their music (well, sort of).

I would love to see John involved for one more time, maybe a one of performance or a goodbye show. For the rest I can't be bothered.

[QUOTE] [b]Ivo-1976 wrote:[/b]

It is what it is. 2 members from a 70's and 80's (and a little bit of 90's) band on a revival greatest hits tour.
There is no intention whatsoever to create new songs or albums. Just give the crowd what they want and take the money.

I did visit a Queen+Paul Rogers show in 2005, I liked it because it had some freshness and felt genuine. There was a real buzz about the guys touring again after all those years.
10 years later, that magic seems to be gone.

But I don't blame them for it. It is their life and their music (well, sort of).

I would love to see John involved for one more time, maybe a one of performance or a goodbye show. For the rest I can't be bothered.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Queen as a creative force ended in 1991 sadly. But BM & RT are still entitled to play their tunes if that's what moves them and there will always be plenty of people who want to see them - even if they're currently touring with not much more than a Broadway style singer lacking with an impressive range but the wrong feel for a rock band. I saw the Belfast show in 2005 with Paul Rodgers and went reluctantly as I was given a free ticket. But I was blown away. It wasn't Queen but it was close enough and I didn't want new songs from them, just the hits and the show was better than anything else I'd seen recently. There IS a less special feeling about the tours these days in my view but if folk want to see it then it's all good.

I don't agree their creativity ended in '91. MIH and NOBU were great. They were still creatively minded until they realised they could make more money with a fucking play. Simple as that. Roger could have had quite a fruitful solo career after Electric Fire - but why tour 2000 and less capacity venues when you can just sit back and watch the money roll in from something that barely involved yourself!

True - MIH was nice, The solo attempts in the 90's weren't all that bad either.
It's just a shame they didn't start touring until 2005.
They could've kicked serious ass in the 90's as a live band. Back then there were quite some great singers that would've joined them.

[QUOTE] [b]Negative Creep wrote:[/b]

I don't agree their creativity ended in '91. MIH and NOBU were great. They were still creatively minded until they realised they could make more money with a fucking play. Simple as that. Roger could have had quite a fruitful solo career after Electric Fire - but why tour 2000 and less capacity venues when you can just sit back and watch the money roll in from something that barely involved yourself![/QUOTE]

I don't say their creativity ended, more that Queen as a creative force ended, or at least was drastically diminished. They can still produce good music (I agree NOBU was great and MIH was quite good) but I think the drive to do so isn't there the way it was before as the band Queen. Solo-wise, yes maybe. But I think BM & RT know that Queen has said pretty much everything it's going to say musically apart from a few rereleases and archival finds here and there. And that's fine. But they can still play the songs live and seem happy to do so for the millions who, like me, never had the chance to see them in their prime.

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[b]Ivo-1976 wrote: [/b] True - MIH was nice, The solo attempts in the 90's weren't all that bad either.
It's just a shame they didn't start touring until 2005.
They could've kicked serious ass in the 90's as a live band. Back then there were quite some great singers that would've joined them.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, it would have been a different situation if they started much earlier - when Brian still had his guitar chops from his solo work and Roger didn't drag every number due to his arthritis. Also John was definitely more keen on continuing as Queen back then.

I find it a little sad to watch/listen to their lacklustre performances of songs like DSMN or SCC. The latter now clocks in at about 210-215 bpm, which is about 35 bpm down on the studio version, and, what, 70 down on mid 70s live versions? They don't have their sonic volcano anymore. They don't have Freddie, which is an equally serious loss. They do have Brian, doing his routine clichés, but very little else. They have a singer who some people like, and some don't. I am genuinely interested: other than Lambert, what is there to experience at their concerts? Hearing the old hits you love? Seeing Brian and Roger on stage? The atmosphere?

When did they originally decide to speed up Now I'm Here? The Live Killers performance -- why it's almost as if they were on cocaine! ;)