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So to sum up, this thread has provided no information that I didn't know 2 years ago (and I posted it all on Queenzone so stop claiming info on this thread is new). Listings of the catalogue number for quad Queen I on Q8 mean nothing, a number of albums from many bands were listed as being released in quad but were never actually mixed. Golders Green clearly did exist in quad SQ encoded but still no-one has a copy, so it can't be decoded. And session 6 definitely was broadcast as a remix in Matrix H quad after the first broadcast, this has been known for decades. But there are so many bootlegs of session 6 and chances are the Matrix H quad mixed by Tony Wilson for the Alan Freeman show was only broadcast once, and a recording has never surfaced. What a shame.

If anyone has copies of this stuff please get in touch. There is a very active quad restoration community and great work can be done.
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But there is new info in this thread? An actual quad radio announcement for starters! Also proof that a Q8 tape was actually advertised in billboard, even if was never actually released.
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PS. Silly question perhaps, but have you checked QOA for quad on GG and session six?
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I did research on this some time ago. The debut album was mixed in quad, and it was mastered to 8-track (4-track discrete) and probably LP (SQ) by Elektra, but NEVER released. The mix should be in the vaults.

The Golders Green Hippodrome show quad mix should also be in the vaults - at least SQ-encoded, but don't expect great front/back separation.
Wilki We must all HEAR to believe
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OMG.
I don't suppose QII was mixed to Quad as well?

Great Research Wilki !!!!!
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[QUOTE] [b]Wilki Amieva wrote:[/b]

I did research on this some time ago. The debut album was mixed in quad, and it was mastered to 8-track (4-track discrete) and probably LP (SQ) by Elektra, but NEVER released. The mix should be in the vaults.

The Golders Green Hippodrome show quad mix should also be in the vaults - at least SQ-encoded, but don't expect great front/back separation.[/QUOTE]

What are your sources for Queen I being mixed in quad? Do you have links?

Why would the front-back separation on Golders Green quad be poor? Are you talking about what was recorded and mixed? Or are you making claims about the ability to decode SQ, in which case we can do a LOT better these days than legacy hardware decoders could ever achieve.

Personally I remain unconvinced by a lot of this. I've never managed to unearth even a sniff of any actual audio in quad for Queen. Just plenty of rumours about the three items we are discussing.
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Any thoughts on this ''experimental'' pressing? Seller claims it to be the debut album.
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[QUOTE] [b]OwenSmith wrote:[/b]
What are your sources for Queen I being mixed in quad? Do you have links?
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I found some Elektra sheets with the same info as posted above about a decade ago (remember posting about this in QueenZone at the time), then asked about this to Queen Productions Ltd. personnel some years later, after I started working with them. That lead to me talking with some of the people that worked at Trident Audio Productions at the time, and they confirmed the mix was done. Queen had it in their vaults - it should be still there.

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Why would the front-back separation on Golders Green quad be poor? Are you talking about what was recorded and mixed? Or are you making claims about the ability to decode SQ, in which case we can do a LOT better these days than legacy hardware decoders could ever achieve.
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Yeah, I know we can now use a digital matrix to decode SQ - sometimes I have to do just that in my studio (I offer analog-to-digital audio transfer and sound restoration services). But you surely understand that the front/back separation would be as good as it was when encoded (analogically) in the first place. Mixes made for broadcast were usually made to be (as) mono-compatible (as possible), and for that to work using a phase-shifting algorithm, front/back separation would be compromised in the original 4-channel discrete mix.
Wilki We must all HEAR to believe
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[QUOTE] [b]The Kurgan wrote:[/b]
Any thoughts on this ''experimental'' pressing?
Seller claims it to be the debut album.[/QUOTE]

Ask her/him for the matrix number.
Wilki We must all HEAR to believe
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[QUOTE] [b]Wilki Amieva wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]The Kurgan wrote:[/b]
Any thoughts on this ''experimental'' pressing?
Seller claims it to be the debut album.[/QUOTE]

Ask her/him for the matrix number.[/QUOTE]

Matrix# YAX 4624-3U AGAIN!
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A third press, if I recall correctly.
Wilki We must all HEAR to believe
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[QUOTE] [b]Wilki Amieva wrote:[/b]

A third press, if I recall correctly.[/QUOTE]

Quite, but what makes the disc experimental?
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Nothing. The first copies of each run went usually to the lab, grooves to be measured and performance checked.

BTW, I think I have a similar disc, from the 2nd run.
Wilki We must all HEAR to believe
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Interesting, thanks for the info.