I recall you are in the medical profession and should know better ... mental health - the last bastion of politically correct discrimination[/QUOTE]
Typical conservative - attack the person instead of the problem.
I guess this obviously means you agree with everything he said about the issue itself, as you had to resort to bullying instead of meaningful dialogue.
And for the record - there is nothing unfair (or even wrong) about classifying Trump thus. His persona during his inauguration speech is a far cry from the persona that attacked the family of a fallen soldier. Plenty of mental health professionals have identified Trump as having various mental health issues beyond narcissism.
But of course you knew that. It's not like you'd let your unwavering partisanship blind you to facts.
Sebastian · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
Typical conservative - attack the person instead of the problem.
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Not the first time it's happened and probably not the last either. Well, once someone retorts to ad hominem, it's plain clear they've run out of arguments.
Saint Jiub · Member since
The short version: It's okay to talk about psychiatric issues — but not okay to diagnose people you haven't treated.
The American Psychiatric Association first began to follow the rule in 1973, but given recent events, it saw fit Wednesday to remind psychiatrists across the United States that the rule exists and must be followed.
"The unique atmosphere of this year’s election cycle may lead some to want to psychoanalyze the candidates," Maria A. Oquendo, president of the APA, wrote, "but to do so would not only be unethical, it would be irresponsible."
The short version: It's okay to talk about psychiatric issues — but not okay to diagnose people you haven't treated.
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Fine.
But that doesn't change the fact that you obviously lost the argument.
It's amazing how much you time you waste trying to convert thoughtful people from different countries that the selfish American worldview is somehow better than theirs.
Whatever gets you through the day.
Saint Jiub · Member since
So i complain about a bipolar insult and suddenly I "obviously lost the argument"?
I recall you are in the medical profession and should know better ... mental health - the last bastion of politically correct discrimination[/QUOTE]
My apologies.
I meant to say 'juvenile bipolar narcissist'....my description of him in the mid 80s, when he ran the USFL out of business. All of his actions since have simply reaffirmed my opinion of the man.
A man who is more concerned about falsifying the attendance numbers for his inauguration against facts, than anything else. And that's all his press secretary had to say in his first appearance yesterday.
It's all about HIM. Always has been, always will be. He cares nada about people like you and me.
Now, as to the hardships to individuals, as well as increased costs to hospitals and states should the ACA cease: any logical comments you'd care to share regarding my prior post?
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
So i complain about a bipolar insult and suddenly I "obviously lost the argument"?[/QUOTE]
Yes - that's called an "ad hominem". There's nothing wrong with pointing these things out in addition to staying on point, but if you attack the person *instead of* the issue, anyone who understand logical fallacies no longer pays attention to you because you've lost all credibility.
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
Your previous posts were even-keeled though.[/QUOTE]
That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me ;)
Oscar J · Member since
I just love the "alternative facts" controversy currently. No need to watch "hilarious fail compilations" on Youtube anymore. To me, the US election and what it's resulted in depicts the absolute pinnacle of human stupidity. I have stopped cringing and just laugh at it at this point.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Oscar J wrote:[/b]
I just love the "alternative facts" controversy currently. No need to watch "hilarious fail compilations" on Youtube anymore. To me, the US election and what it's resulted in depicts the absolute pinnacle of human stupidity. I have stopped cringing and just laugh at it at this point. [/QUOTE]
Yup - it's the trend on facebook and twitter right now, to hilarious results.
But of course, the implications are terrifying, because facts can now become whatever anyone wants them to be - and about half of the US doesn't seem to notice or care because their partisan blinders are on.
On the flip side - maybe the west has become too complacent, and a guy like Trump has helped people realize how special and fragile democracy is.
It's going to suck for the next four years, but we also need to spend said years educating those aged 14-18, as they will be voting in the next election. Under 20% of millenials voted in this election, and the next group of them need to realize that voting is literally the only way to reject willful ignorance and say fuck you to people like Trump.
*goodco* · Member since
Panchgani:
I'll add one more thing: as to the 'medical field', my answer would be 'yes and no'.
I work as an accountant for a health care provider. I am well aware of the failings of the ACA as to those who do not pay as required, the up and down memberships after getting long overdue medical attention, the rising costs because many let their health concerns lapse because they could not afford it. I am also aware of other insurances that are 'for profit', who let their CEOs get $10-40M golden parachutes upon leaving, while having 'NO' stamped on every legitimate claim until lawyers enter the picture.
What we have now was never perfect. Still waiting for the GOP to offer up some better solutions after eight years. And would appreciate some positive input from them.
I also work as my GOP councilman's county representative on a food bank task force, to insure that the needy do not go unfed during extreme weather events. He believes that those in need deserve assistance.
Next question.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]*goodco* wrote:[/b]
I am also aware of other insurances that are 'for profit', who let their CEOs get $10-40M golden parachutes upon leaving, while having 'NO' stamped on every legitimate claim until lawyers enter the picture.[/QUOTE]
That's beyond horrific.
A friend of mine works at a doctor's office in Connecticut, and it's her job to call the insurance companies to plead people's cases for them. Her phone calls sometimes literally determine whether people will live or die - and it doesn't always work out.
It's stories like that have left me more than convinced that the US is a third world country dressed up as a developed one. It is not a civilized country if a third of its citizens and half its politicians are fine with things like this not changing.
Saint Jiub · Member since
My father was hospitalized this weekend with pneumonia, so yawl will likely get a brief reprieve from my nonsense until this weekend, when I might have more time and my dad will have most probably have been released from the hospital.
Sebastian · Member since
I'm sorry you're going through that at the moment. Wishing your father a swift recovery.
Saint Jiub · Member since
My cousin just posted this apparent hoax less than one hour ago on Facebook and she apparently believes it:
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Get on the phone, people!
In Case You Missed It
The Senate voted 51 to 48:
1. To end coverage for preexisting conditions, veterans benefits, and aid to rural hospitals.
2. To remove discrimination protection for women in healthcare.
3. Against the provision allowing children to remain on their parent's insurance till the age of 26.
4. To cut off funding for the Child Health Insurance Program (CHIP).
5. Against ACA contraceptive coverage and maternity care provision.
6. To direct committees to send budget legislation to defund and repeal the Affordable Care Act.
For those who get health insurance through work, no pre-existing conditions. Lifetime caps for coverage are back for everyone.
Real and disastrous actions are being taken that will affect more than just the 20-30 million people who will lose their health care coverage and the 3 million people who will lose their jobs.
Despite their assertions of this being an action to "repeal and replace," no viable alternative plan has been proposed.
The House votes Friday.
As of this moment, no replacement exists
For those worried about ACA coverage for themselves and their families: Senator Warren's staff said (the offices of Speakers Ryan and McConnell were being flooded with calls) what would help the most would be to call the five Republican senators who have broken away from the GOP to demand a slowdown of the repeal. Tell them how much you appreciate their efforts to stop the train wreck and share your story.
They are:
Senator Bob Corker - (202) 224-3344
Senator Lisa Murkowski - (202) 224-6665
Senator Rob Portman - (202) 224-3353
Senator Susan Collins - (202) 224-2523
Senator Bill Cassidy - (202) 224-5824
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