But no need to worry, folks - apparently this is "left wing media", and left wing media is all propaganda. Those people with cancer and diabetes are all rich, so they'll be fine, right?
Saint Jiub · Member since
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] What about it is a hoax?
The vote did happen, and it's step one of taking away health care from over 20 million people.
Your cousin is a couple weeks late to the party, though - it was on January 12. [/QUOTE]
Half truth ...
The vote did take place, and the wheels have been set in motion.
However ...
That Facebook post makes it look like all of the below items are a done deal ... Not so.
1. To end coverage for preexisting conditions, veterans benefits, and aid to rural hospitals. 2. To remove discrimination protection for women in healthcare. 3. Against the provision allowing children to remain on their parent's insurance till the age of 26. 4. To cut off funding for the Child Health Insurance Program (CHIP). 5. Against ACA contraceptive coverage and maternity care provision. 6. To direct committees to send budget legislation to defund and repeal the Affordable Care Act. For those who get health insurance through work, no pre-existing conditions. Lifetime caps for coverage are back for everyone.
*goodco* · Member since
Panchgani: First, hope your father is doing better.
I also hope he either had insurance through his company, his company's retirement benefits, Medicare or Medicaid, or gawd forbid, the ACA (I do not know his age).
And then it boils down to how much of a financial hit he or you will take.
Just think if he had to be taken to the ER without insurance.
Doesn't it suck that the discussion goes from 'feelings' to 'financial'?
[Both my parents passed 30 years ago, so no needed comment as to 'emotions', but it is interesting that the conversation has suddenly moved on with no comments of his current situation. Hmmmm????]
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] What about it is a hoax?
The vote did happen, and it's step one of taking away health care from over 20 million people.
Your cousin is a couple weeks late to the party, though - it was on January 12. [/QUOTE]
Half truth ...
The vote did take place, and the wheels have been set in motion.
However ...
That Facebook post makes it look like all of the below items are a done deal ... Not so.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's just foolish. Of course this is just one step of many - but we can be pretty certain that Trump will seal the deal.
BETA215 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
My father was hospitalized this weekend with pneumonia, so yawl will likely get a brief reprieve from my nonsense until this weekend, when I might have more time and my dad will have most probably have been released from the hospital.[/QUOTE]
*double poat, worry*
BETA215 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
My father was hospitalized this weekend with pneumonia, so yawl will likely get a brief reprieve from my nonsense until this weekend, when I might have more time and my dad will have most probably have been released from the hospital.[/QUOTE]
*double post, sorry*
BETA215 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
My father was hospitalized this weekend with pneumonia, so yawl will likely get a brief reprieve from my nonsense until this weekend, when I might have more time and my dad will have most probably have been released from the hospital.[/QUOTE]
I've had pneumonia when younger, it's terrible. Hope your dad gets better. It's horrible when you don't know how to deal with all the suffering and you just want to sleep all day long.
Saint Jiub · Member since
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] What about it is a hoax?
The vote did happen, and it's step one of taking away health care from over 20 million people.
Your cousin is a couple weeks late to the party, though - it was on January 12. [/QUOTE]
Half truth ...
The vote did take place, and the wheels have been set in motion.
However ...
That Facebook post makes it look like all of the below items are a done deal ... Not so.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's just foolish. Of course this is just one step of many - but we can be pretty certain that Trump will seal the deal.[/QUOTE]
...
Trump said he believes in no preexisting condition restrictions and allowing health insurance till 26 on parents policy.
Getting rid of either of these two items is political suicide, particularly when the republican party says they will have a replacement.
To me something "better" will include tort reform (no jackpot justice), will permit buying drugs from Canada or other countries, allow selling insurance across state lines, and a reduction of medical beaurocracy and unnecessary laws. Also, the penalty "tax" for not having insurance should be increased as well.
Will the democrats agree to any of the above? I cannot believe the democrats will oppose the legal lobby willingly.
ACA is set to implode in 2018 when the Cadillac tax hits with a vengence ... and unions will be affected as well.
The average age where I work is 55 ... there is no way for the company to avoid the cadillac tax penalty when the average age is 55 (unless they resort to age discrimination).
My company has already jacked up the deductable to $5000 in a futile attempt to avoid the cadillac tax.
The ACA is not affordable as it stands right now and it screws any middle class full time employee with company sponsored health care.
*goodco* · Member since
'My father had pneumonia...."
Oh, I decided to change the subject.
Nice move.
BTW.....you have still not commented on, challenged, or debated one single fact from a prior post of mine.
Not surprised.
It might also make you happy to know that I have been doing mucho overtime in the past two weeks, entering new clients into our database for those who signed up for the ACA.
Just imagine if it was called 'KennedyCare'.
What insurance does your father have? And, if it is the same carrier as mine, why should I pay for his care?
Please explain, because in spite of working for a healthcare provider, I don't understand why I should pay higher premiums for his care. This 'socialism' boggles my frickin' mind.
Isn't your family able to fend for itself, without leeching off of my finances?
Saint Jiub · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]*goodco* wrote:[/b]
'My father had pneumonia...."
Oh, I decided to change the subject.
Nice move.
BTW.....you have still not commented on, challenged, or debated one single fact from a prior post of mine.
Not surprised.
It might also make you happy to know that I have been doing mucho overtime in the past two weeks, entering new clients into our database for those who signed up for the ACA.
Just imagine if it was called 'KennedyCare'.
What insurance does your father have? And, if it is the same carrier as mine, why should I pay for his care?
Please explain, because in spite of working for a healthcare provider, I don't understand why I should pay higher premiums for his care. This 'socialism' boggles my frickin' mind.
Isn't your family able to fend for itself, without leeching off of my finances?[/QUOTE]
You volunteered to pay into the insurance lottery ... no one held a gun to your head to make you pay. You could have saved a lot of money by not getting insurance.
I had previous posts as to why the UCA (unaffordable care act) was wrong.
A 40% excise Cadillac excise tax was my number one beef ... soak the middle class.
regarding the inevitable end of UCA ... most republicans are not bent on political suicide ... so you are jumping the gun with your doomsday scenarios.
"Obamacare cannot be fully undone — or replaced — without Democratic cooperation."
*goodco* · Member since
No one held a gun to my head.
Ooops....I was required to have insurance, which was automatically taken out of every third paycheck of the month.
If you had a job, or ever held one, you would know that.
Moron.
btw...who is paying for your dad's hospital stay?
Funny how the ACA is still in existence. Your boys are chicken. 'Damn, people actually want insurance and don't want to die.'
And ......your president is now certifiably psychotic as of yesterday morning.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]*goodco* wrote:[/b]
And ......your president is now certifiably psychotic as of yesterday morning.[/QUOTE]
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